RE: Bristol Cars returns from the dead

RE: Bristol Cars returns from the dead

Friday 7th May 2021

Bristol Cars returns from the dead

After a decade in the dark, Bristol is back under new ownership - with a 'Buccaneer' EV in its future...



It was 2011 when Bristol slipped into administration, and for many it seemed that was it for one of Britain's most esoteric car makers. They never exactly flew out of the Kensington High Street showroom, even in the glory days. However, a decade and a year after it went into liquidation, Bristol is back, with a new owner and new model plans.

Jason Wharton is now the man in charge after acquiring the intellectual property rights of Bristol for an undisclosed sum, and is setting about relaunching the brand he loves. That's not merely lip service to the media, either: Wharton owns a Fighter and a 411, which has to be a good start for anyone wishing to revive the fortunes of Bristol.

The initial product plan is simple, with old Bristols like the Fighter, 411 and Speedster reimagined for the 2020s. Power will come from a 6.4-litre Chrysler Hemi paired with a ZF auto, and everything else - suspension, interior, electrical architecture - will be brought up to date as well. The cars will then be sold, hopefully, through a rejuvenated London showroom, with manufacturing planned to take place once again in the Filton area of Bristol - this time complete with an 'Atelier' style final assembly. It sounds like just the right thing for a revived Bristol to be doing, i.e. revisions of what was popular beforehand. But the overaching plan is a lot more ambitious than that.


The V8 Fighter, Speedster and 411 will be the last combustion-engined Bristols, with the company embarking on an EV era - and a new 'Buccaneer' planned for 2025. The plan is for Bristol, with additional investment beyond Wharton's, to be a leader in battery electric vehicles by the time of its 80th anniversary in 2026 - which gives them plenty of work to be getting on with. We're told to expect a "fusion of classic design and modern technology" from the upcoming range.

Wharton said of the plan: "Bristol is a quintessentially British brand that was renowned for creating luxurious and distinctive vehicles. We want to revive and reinvigorate this iconic marque... I see myself as a long-term investor in this iconic British brand, so part of my role is to take it forward and develop it so it can finally become sustainable as a premium automotive business, hence our need to move with the times, and introduce a fully battery electric model."

As for a timeframe, Bristol expects road homologated prototypes of the V8s to be ready by the end of 2021, with deliveries of actual cars to commence from next year and continue into 2023. Expect more to come on the Buccaneer once those cars are complete. Those after one of the remastered cars will be asked for "around £495,000 plus VAT", so Bristols certainly are not destined to become sports car for the everyman. Still, if this announcement has awoken a deep-seated desire to own a Bristol, there are five in the PH classifieds - this 411 has won awards from the owners club, no less.




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Sue_Donym

Original Poster:

21 posts

43 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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FFS, I wish people would stop trying to reanimate the corpse of companies that are dead, and usually for good reason.


If you want to make a new car, go for it. If it's genuinely good or you won't need to tack on an old badge to make people notice it.

jorders500

139 posts

89 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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I've always liked Bristols.

I called in to the showroom once on my way back from a conference. The door squeaked as I opened it and I was greeted by a mature gentleman in a red striped shirt and braces. I said that I couldn't afford to buy one of his cars but could I have a look around anyway.

He said that was absolutely fine and, to my delight, he showed me around all the cars (inc a Fighter) and told me some great stories about the history of the company.

It was a wonderful half hour with a real gentleman.

I wish the new venture and its backers all the best.




jorders500

139 posts

89 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Sue_Donym said:
FFS, I wish people would stop trying to reanimate the corpse of companies that are dead, and usually for good reason.


If you want to make a new car, go for it. If it's genuinely good or you won't need to tack on an old badge to make people notice it.
Because the brand already has equity/history/loyal followers etc.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Sue_Donym said:
FFS, I wish people would stop trying to reanimate the corpse of companies that are dead, and usually for good reason.


If you want to make a new car, go for it. If it's genuinely good or you won't need to tack on an old badge to make people notice it.
Why so upset?
Not your money.
If they can do a good job then what’s the harm?

MarkwG

4,848 posts

189 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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jorders500 said:
Sue_Donym said:
FFS, I wish people would stop trying to reanimate the corpse of companies that are dead, and usually for good reason.


If you want to make a new car, go for it. If it's genuinely good or you won't need to tack on an old badge to make people notice it.
Becuase the brand already has equity/history/loyal followers etc.
Indeed - the effort & money spent on setting up a new brand instead goes into the product development, I know which I prefer.

Cold

15,246 posts

90 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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"On your Buccan-head".

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Hasn't this been the joke in all the other 'old company name with new backers' thread for a while now? Suppose it had to happen eventually. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Monkeylegend

26,385 posts

231 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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I see a new thread title winging its way to PH anytime soon.

"New Bristols under wraps"

Lester H

2,726 posts

105 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Isn’t it ironic that there is a thriving thread on Dull, Bland and Boring, but when a proposal is made to revive a highly individual and quirky marque, there is so much pessimism.I could never afford a Bristol but admired/ tested them at a local car club.Yes their faults are well documented on PH, but they were totally different.As an analogy, like Jaguar ( also taken to task on DBB), in the 1970s they were like no other.

Numeric

1,396 posts

151 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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The name has a very small level of resonance I would argue.

Back in the day I seemed to have endless corpse revivals pushed across my desk - rejected them all as being the preserve of people with an intimate knowledge of cars, so while I might know what a Healy was, to achieve any reasonable level of sales the name needed to resonate with not a few petrol heads many with little wealth but lots of 'normal' people with money!

I wish them well but it seems a way to absorb investors money who get pleasure from being involved in the project rather than realistically build a great car company.

WhiteBaron

1,394 posts

226 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Will it be available before the new TVR ?hehe

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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New British Sports car checklist.

Dig up an old design? Check

Buy in a V8 engine? Check

Ask a ridiculous price? Check

Promise the world? Check

Deliver nothing? ......... to be checked later.

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Obviously very exclusive.
And so exclusive they are listed on Ebay under Static Caravans. Highly impressive for a £600K car - doesn't inspire confidence in the company.
But, there again, almost certainly available before the "New" TVR

Cliftonite

8,408 posts

138 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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The script badge shown is of the Bristol Omnibus Company/The Bristol Tramways and Carriage Company?!

They built and operated BUSES!





Edited by Cliftonite on Friday 7th May 14:23

griso

15 posts

131 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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I could have sworn that was a Marcos TSO!

SWoll

18,370 posts

258 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Always loved the Fighter. Ridiculous name, side exit exhausts and more glass than a greenhouse yet only tiny windows you can open. A cracking bit of quintessentially English madness. I bet it's trimmed in tweed. smile

Equus

16,883 posts

101 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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I actually quite liked the Fighter, but having seen one up close there was no denying that in terms of fit, finish, design and execution it was basically what you'd expect of an up-market kit car.

Asking £594K for one is a good joke, but I don't see many people astute enough to have become multi-milionaires falling for it.

Sue_Donym

Original Poster:

21 posts

43 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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MarkwG said:
Indeed - the effort & money spent on setting up a new brand instead goes into the product development, I know which I prefer.
As opposed to the money and effort having been spent acquiring the old brand?


SWoll

18,370 posts

258 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Equus said:
I actually quite liked the Fighter, but having seen one up close there was no denying that in terms of fit, finish, design and execution it was basically what you'd expect of an up-market kit car.

Asking £594K for one is a good joke, but I don't see many people astute enough to have become multi-milionaires falling for it.


smile

Demonix

483 posts

212 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Wasn't all the tooling and presses and manufacturing kit stolen from the Filton factory whilst the firm went into administration last time?