RE: AC Cobra 4-electric lineup expanded
Discussion
Manic Street Sleeper said:
Amanitin said:
I love how they managed to produce two identical pictures with the red and the blue cars.
Even the reflections of the clouds on the body are the same!
Professionalism, rigorous attention to detail. Must have been a real pain to wait for those clouds to come around again.
They even managed to match up the tyre treads too .....Even the reflections of the clouds on the body are the same!
Professionalism, rigorous attention to detail. Must have been a real pain to wait for those clouds to come around again.
NDNDNDND said:
romac said:
Great that they are ploughing both furrows at the moment - EV and ICE/V8 - so you get to choose your poison!
Been wondering what it would be like if things were the other way round. We had grown up on EV, and someone tries to introduce ICE into the picture. Would we hanker after the silence of EV in the face of these new fancy infernal combustion engines that are noisy, vibrate, spit out fumes and consume a lot of juice even when they are not moving?
You mean like about a hundred years ago, when EVs were quite common and lost out to ICE cars because they were more practical? Been wondering what it would be like if things were the other way round. We had grown up on EV, and someone tries to introduce ICE into the picture. Would we hanker after the silence of EV in the face of these new fancy infernal combustion engines that are noisy, vibrate, spit out fumes and consume a lot of juice even when they are not moving? Not really comparing like with like.
rampageturke said:
Four Litre said:
Just find it upsetting (genuinely) what else is there about this car apart from a massive V8.
I'm going for a lay down.
get a dax cobra kit then? bunch of over reacting loons in hereI'm going for a lay down.
Anyone who has ever owned a diesel car should never criticise an EV, oil burners are far more abhorrent.
I predict that a lot of brands are going to really struggle to stay relevant with the change to electrification.
Whether cars as a status symbol remains popular (and I suspect it will for some time) is one thing, but some such as AC here are, I believe, going to really struggle to convince enough people that their electrified product is anything other than singularly pointless.
Am I implying that all electric cars are inherently boring? I'll separate my personal purchasing leanings from a more general slant and say that some might still want electric cars that pretend to offer something besides basic A to B transport, however I firmly believe that buying trends, driven by the beliefs and priorities of younger people, will absolutely be practical purpose first and possibly add some pretence of fun if there's still money left over.
A 2 seat sportscar is very hard for many to justify already and the trend away from sporty cars to a market dominated by SUVs is because very few people are making that justification now where there is still something like a stonking great petrol V-block which appeals to those of us who are aging - but that will pass.
Who really wants a glorified dodgem car with no roof for the price of a modest home once the engine has been taken away and us aging petrolheads are out of the game? The odd pillock desperate to show how much he cares for the environment by buying a brand new car with its huge manufacturing carbon footprint just to park in the heated garage and not be used? If we're honest with ourselves, something like a Cobra is a pretty useless vehicle. They're beautiful, deeply desirable objects of indulgence. I just don't see an electric version appealing to very many people at all.
Whether cars as a status symbol remains popular (and I suspect it will for some time) is one thing, but some such as AC here are, I believe, going to really struggle to convince enough people that their electrified product is anything other than singularly pointless.
Am I implying that all electric cars are inherently boring? I'll separate my personal purchasing leanings from a more general slant and say that some might still want electric cars that pretend to offer something besides basic A to B transport, however I firmly believe that buying trends, driven by the beliefs and priorities of younger people, will absolutely be practical purpose first and possibly add some pretence of fun if there's still money left over.
A 2 seat sportscar is very hard for many to justify already and the trend away from sporty cars to a market dominated by SUVs is because very few people are making that justification now where there is still something like a stonking great petrol V-block which appeals to those of us who are aging - but that will pass.
Who really wants a glorified dodgem car with no roof for the price of a modest home once the engine has been taken away and us aging petrolheads are out of the game? The odd pillock desperate to show how much he cares for the environment by buying a brand new car with its huge manufacturing carbon footprint just to park in the heated garage and not be used? If we're honest with ourselves, something like a Cobra is a pretty useless vehicle. They're beautiful, deeply desirable objects of indulgence. I just don't see an electric version appealing to very many people at all.
Edited by jamieduff1981 on Thursday 3rd June 16:17
MKnight702 said:
Manic Street Sleeper said:
Amanitin said:
I love how they managed to produce two identical pictures with the red and the blue cars.
Even the reflections of the clouds on the body are the same!
Professionalism, rigorous attention to detail. Must have been a real pain to wait for those clouds to come around again.
They even managed to match up the tyre treads too .....Even the reflections of the clouds on the body are the same!
Professionalism, rigorous attention to detail. Must have been a real pain to wait for those clouds to come around again.
Meh... EV's are the only future of transport... no doubt.
But imagine how many people there are that:
Have six figures to spend on a toy
Like old school looking things.
Like the cobra shape above all other options
Don't like old school looking engines
Don't like old school sounding engines
Would risk six figures buying new tech stuff from a tiny firm, with a tiny balance sheet, with no track record in actually delivering new tech stuff.
They'd be better off doubling the price point and pitching it at the Middle East boys.
But imagine how many people there are that:
Have six figures to spend on a toy
Like old school looking things.
Like the cobra shape above all other options
Don't like old school looking engines
Don't like old school sounding engines
Would risk six figures buying new tech stuff from a tiny firm, with a tiny balance sheet, with no track record in actually delivering new tech stuff.
They'd be better off doubling the price point and pitching it at the Middle East boys.
I think the big changer for car ownership will not be the switch to EVs but the switch to self driving cars like an Uber without the driver. You want to go to the supermarket, you book your SDC which turns up at the appointed time and drops you off at Asda and then takes someone else home with their shopping. No ownership costs, no need to be able to park it up, a simple hire charge based on time/distance. Great for going to the pub ,for example, no need for a designated driver. I think this will be coming in cities before too long.
Oh... I missed the fact that Alan Lubinsky was involved...That explains everything.
I'm told there are some strong feelings about him in the Cobra world.
I'm told the Maltese government are still hoping to get their 550,000 Euros back... indeed a number of other suppliers over there and in the US would like a chat with him too.
Some people may think that a chap who worked at one of his UK sales agents said that the few cobras he did manage to supply from Malta - a year or so late - had to be completely rebuilt in order to be roadworthy.
I of course believe that these cobras really are real and not pretend in anyway whatsoever.
I'm told there are some strong feelings about him in the Cobra world.
I'm told the Maltese government are still hoping to get their 550,000 Euros back... indeed a number of other suppliers over there and in the US would like a chat with him too.
Some people may think that a chap who worked at one of his UK sales agents said that the few cobras he did manage to supply from Malta - a year or so late - had to be completely rebuilt in order to be roadworthy.
I of course believe that these cobras really are real and not pretend in anyway whatsoever.
Edited by Cob1 on Thursday 3rd June 16:44
emperorburger said:
They just do not get it, do they? The Cobra is all about the V8. They are offering the 300bhp version, probably because no one, NO ONE has placed a deposit for the 600bhp version, the trouble is, its not about the bhp. Its about the fact they are offering the equivalent of a fridge that looks like a Cobra. 
anixie said:
Have only driven a Cobra once (replica) which ran a 427+nitro. It wasn't acceleration which I enjoyed most (although it was scary fast), but sound... Something the electric one doesn't really offer. Nothing against electric cars, and I even like the idea of electrical classics, but lets be fair. The biggest appeal of a a Cobra is sound....
I had a passenger ride years back, and had a S1 lotus exige... After the Cobra, the Exige seemed to very quiet, and very slow! It is an interesting time in the automotive world. Cars that should have gone EV haven't and cars that shouldn't, like this AC Cobra are doing it because they think this is the future.
Cars that should have gone EV 10 years ago were the Bentley, Rolls, S-Class, Taxis, Trucks and Vans.
Much like the board meeting of the 2020 Flying Spur where you have to wonder how they decided that a full sized sedan was what the world needs now.
The AC is not a candidate for EV conversion, even if it was 1000hp this would never sell.
Given that Kirkham have shown that there is a market for Alloy bodied AC Cobras that aren't 3 inches longer on one side than the other. You would have to question the business acumen of someone having the AC name and not just buying these from Kirkham, as Shelby do and giving Cobra people a real AC? But instead doing a fibreglass body EV version because there is a gap in the market?
Cars that should have gone EV 10 years ago were the Bentley, Rolls, S-Class, Taxis, Trucks and Vans.
Much like the board meeting of the 2020 Flying Spur where you have to wonder how they decided that a full sized sedan was what the world needs now.
The AC is not a candidate for EV conversion, even if it was 1000hp this would never sell.
Given that Kirkham have shown that there is a market for Alloy bodied AC Cobras that aren't 3 inches longer on one side than the other. You would have to question the business acumen of someone having the AC name and not just buying these from Kirkham, as Shelby do and giving Cobra people a real AC? But instead doing a fibreglass body EV version because there is a gap in the market?
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