RE: Toyota reveals all-new Land Cruiser 300
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dxLove it, but Cruisers work best in base spec in a developing country. I’ve got a 120 Prado which I used for surveys or rough and remote places. It’s rather boring but extremely capable and utterly reliable.
Unlike the Defenders and Discoveries before it, which often left me stranded.
Unlike the Defenders and Discoveries before it, which often left me stranded.
People often seem to get worked up about the price of these which I don't understand. Our 100 series has 520,000 miles on the clock and runs like a dream. It literally has never left us stranded in 20 years of everyday farm work.
They are very cheap vehicles once you take their lifespan into account. It's such a pity they are not coming here anymore. A range rover is not an alternative and never has been. Toyota didn't seem to understand that it was builders and people who do heavy towing that wanted these. They should have sold a basic version rather than only the VX of the 200 series.
They are very cheap vehicles once you take their lifespan into account. It's such a pity they are not coming here anymore. A range rover is not an alternative and never has been. Toyota didn't seem to understand that it was builders and people who do heavy towing that wanted these. They should have sold a basic version rather than only the VX of the 200 series.
Fantastic, hugely dependable and capable machines, I like that they are a bit more utilitarian and have older proven tech that is known to be reliable.
Not surprised they aren’t going to be sold in the UK, as most would just purchase a new Defender/ Range Rover.
I think even the Prado version will be pulled from the UK soon. During my last visit to our local Toyota dealer the salesman said they have to cap the number of non-commercial Prado sales as they effect their sales emissions tax? So I imagine the market will be so small in the UK it isn’t worth the cost of converting it from Japan/Aus/SA spec to UK spec.
Not surprised they aren’t going to be sold in the UK, as most would just purchase a new Defender/ Range Rover.
I think even the Prado version will be pulled from the UK soon. During my last visit to our local Toyota dealer the salesman said they have to cap the number of non-commercial Prado sales as they effect their sales emissions tax? So I imagine the market will be so small in the UK it isn’t worth the cost of converting it from Japan/Aus/SA spec to UK spec.
There are 127,000 used cars for sale on carsales.com.au here in Australia. The equivalent of Autotrader.
3700 of these are Landcruisers. 3% of all cars for sale. That's crazy.
Even crazier is that nearly half of these have over 100,000 miles.
Even crazier still is that 80% of Landcruisers for sale are over £15,000.
3700 of these are Landcruisers. 3% of all cars for sale. That's crazy.
Even crazier is that nearly half of these have over 100,000 miles.
Even crazier still is that 80% of Landcruisers for sale are over £15,000.
The 200 sold slowly but steadily in the UK despite Toyota UK and dealers almost trying not to sell them.
I asked about one when they were first launched, the salesman wasn't interested despite me having turned up in an earlier model. Even when pushed he couldn't tell me where I could even see one, let alone drive it.
Similar to last year, I was quoted almost a year's waiting list on a new "Prado" and they didn't have one to drive or even look at. I ended up with a 2 year old Hilux after getting a bit fed up of being messed around.
I asked about one when they were first launched, the salesman wasn't interested despite me having turned up in an earlier model. Even when pushed he couldn't tell me where I could even see one, let alone drive it.
Similar to last year, I was quoted almost a year's waiting list on a new "Prado" and they didn't have one to drive or even look at. I ended up with a 2 year old Hilux after getting a bit fed up of being messed around.
Max_Torque said:
Number9 said:
Out of the box this is certainly pretty ugly. But most people who use them properly don’t leave them in that state. In Oz, where they are ridiculously popular, it’s not uncommon for them to be driven straight from the dealers to an aftermarket company (often ARB) to get better suspension, wheels, lift kits, wheel carriers, winches, snorkels etc etc. Then they look good and function like nothing else. If you want one vehicle to handle anything (except a race track), the Landcruiser is it
Thanks to the increasing trend for "bush 4x4" trips, often people drive these things striaight from the dealer with zero miles on the clock and immediately take an angle grinder to the thing:
Wonder if you get some money back if you take that bit back to the dealer and ask?? ;-)
On 4wd 24/7 videos the 200 LC’s love to destroy a front cv joint.
They have to bring 2 or 3 as spares as it’s always going to fail.
Seems to be the biggest weakness of the old platform and it will be curious to see if that’s fixed.
Well... it's certainly imposing looking, from the front at least. Has a touch of the Ssanyongs about it though, not really a looker is she.
I've never been a big fan of the square wheel arche look, always seems like a boxy step too far, I like 'em round.
I'm sure it will be a capable machine though.
I've never been a big fan of the square wheel arche look, always seems like a boxy step too far, I like 'em round.
I'm sure it will be a capable machine though.
When I was in Mackay, Queensland, 3 years ago it felt like every third car was a Toyota off-roader. Further inland seemed more like 1 in 2.
I have a 100. It’s obviously neither sporty nor blingy. But aside from that there’s pretty much nothing it can’t do, including being very comfortable. It’s an awesome vehicle, and at chassis level it’s built more like a locomotive than a car. The engine’s other use was in a 5 ton bus.
I wish this 300 looked a little less boxy, but only to tone down the “huge SUV” vibe.
I have a 100. It’s obviously neither sporty nor blingy. But aside from that there’s pretty much nothing it can’t do, including being very comfortable. It’s an awesome vehicle, and at chassis level it’s built more like a locomotive than a car. The engine’s other use was in a 5 ton bus.
I wish this 300 looked a little less boxy, but only to tone down the “huge SUV” vibe.
Toyota UK need to bring this in and stop alienating their customers.
We've had an 80 Series (180,000+ miles), a 100 series with 222,000 miles currently and would have had a 200 if they hadn't pulled them, largely because in 2009 the yen was so strong that they were comparatively expensive compared to LR. Now they should be planning to bring this back...very disappointing that they aren't considering it.
They made the same mistake with the Hilux and the POS 2.4 litre engine, refusing to bring back the equivalent engine to the outgoing model. Eventually they have now just brought it back after a lot of pleading but not before so many have moved to another manufacturer which is sad because the sales figures won't reflect the desire for it after the mismanaging of it all.
It's been great to see Toyota come out with the Yaris GR, the most exciting model to come from them for decades and selling like hot cakes judging by the many I am seeing on the road, it would be very nice to see some flavour back at Toyota instead of all the lame white goods they've been pedalling for the last 2 decades and limp sports cars (yes you GT86 and dare I call it a 'Supra').
We've had an 80 Series (180,000+ miles), a 100 series with 222,000 miles currently and would have had a 200 if they hadn't pulled them, largely because in 2009 the yen was so strong that they were comparatively expensive compared to LR. Now they should be planning to bring this back...very disappointing that they aren't considering it.
They made the same mistake with the Hilux and the POS 2.4 litre engine, refusing to bring back the equivalent engine to the outgoing model. Eventually they have now just brought it back after a lot of pleading but not before so many have moved to another manufacturer which is sad because the sales figures won't reflect the desire for it after the mismanaging of it all.
It's been great to see Toyota come out with the Yaris GR, the most exciting model to come from them for decades and selling like hot cakes judging by the many I am seeing on the road, it would be very nice to see some flavour back at Toyota instead of all the lame white goods they've been pedalling for the last 2 decades and limp sports cars (yes you GT86 and dare I call it a 'Supra').
As a former FJ100 Land Cruiser Amazon V8 owner, if the dimensions are similar then I am glad it's not coming to the UK. Fording flooded country lanes when using as my all-weather station commuter vehicle was great, trying to park at the multi-story car park in Heathrow Terminal 5, not so great.
I hope they have more colours than grey, white and black. The white really seems to accentuate the boxiness and I don't like the RAV 4-esque rear end. Also no V8 is a shame but I imagine the V6 diesel will more than make up for the loss of the brawnier petrol V8. I am moving to Canada when the madness is over so this might be on my radar for my Rocky expedition vehicle if Rivian don't come good with their range claims.
More interested in the new suspension system, guess it's some type of electronic damper system but will it still use hydraulics like in my old Land Cruiser?
I hope they have more colours than grey, white and black. The white really seems to accentuate the boxiness and I don't like the RAV 4-esque rear end. Also no V8 is a shame but I imagine the V6 diesel will more than make up for the loss of the brawnier petrol V8. I am moving to Canada when the madness is over so this might be on my radar for my Rocky expedition vehicle if Rivian don't come good with their range claims.
More interested in the new suspension system, guess it's some type of electronic damper system but will it still use hydraulics like in my old Land Cruiser?
NITO said:
Toyota UK need to bring this in and stop alienating their customers.
We've had an 80 Series (180,000+ miles), a 100 series with 222,000 miles currently and would have had a 200 if they hadn't pulled them, largely because in 2009 the yen was so strong that they were comparatively expensive compared to LR. Now they should be planning to bring this back...very disappointing that they aren't considering it.
They made the same mistake with the Hilux and the POS 2.4 litre engine, refusing to bring back the equivalent engine to the outgoing model. Eventually they have now just brought it back after a lot of pleading but not before so many have moved to another manufacturer which is sad because the sales figures won't reflect the desire for it after the mismanaging of it all.
It's been great to see Toyota come out with the Yaris GR, the most exciting model to come from them for decades and selling like hot cakes judging by the many I am seeing on the road, it would be very nice to see some flavour back at Toyota instead of all the lame white goods they've been pedalling for the last 2 decades and limp sports cars (yes you GT86 and dare I call it a 'Supra').
Toyota GB are a dreadful company We've had an 80 Series (180,000+ miles), a 100 series with 222,000 miles currently and would have had a 200 if they hadn't pulled them, largely because in 2009 the yen was so strong that they were comparatively expensive compared to LR. Now they should be planning to bring this back...very disappointing that they aren't considering it.
They made the same mistake with the Hilux and the POS 2.4 litre engine, refusing to bring back the equivalent engine to the outgoing model. Eventually they have now just brought it back after a lot of pleading but not before so many have moved to another manufacturer which is sad because the sales figures won't reflect the desire for it after the mismanaging of it all.
It's been great to see Toyota come out with the Yaris GR, the most exciting model to come from them for decades and selling like hot cakes judging by the many I am seeing on the road, it would be very nice to see some flavour back at Toyota instead of all the lame white goods they've been pedalling for the last 2 decades and limp sports cars (yes you GT86 and dare I call it a 'Supra').
Alway behind the curve ,
Would have gone bust years ago if they had been selling a lesser marque .
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