RE: Tesla confirms Model S Plaid performance

[Jaroon]

nunpuncher said:

1,020hp
0-60 in 1.99 seconds
top speed of 200mph

Incredible figures. I do wonder if we are close to the point where someone with a hard hat and a clipboard will step in and say "that's just too much".

My £40k Quadrifoglio will do 191mph out of the box. The deliberately stifled performance (don't want to step on the donor Marques toes) is corrected with a basic £600 remap and I'd be surprised if it couldn't crack 200mph.

0 - 60 if that were my goal, nailing a sub 3.5 should be doable and would be a exercise in timing and on going finesse in technique, that is before I've turned the steering wheel. A launch controlled 1.9 would be something to experience, no doubt but my £40k plus 600 gives me a world of nuances, tactile and aural pleasure to explore I really doubt the Tesla will ever match. And the chap poo pooing (for poo pooing you were) range anxiety, charge point issues from going out of your way, broken or in use, the weight of the thing, batteries under different conditions etc. with the counter point that it's handy to have an extended break on a long run. Personally I'd perfer the choice.

With ICE by definition being at its pinnacle of development along with cleaner fuels, hybrids seem a very useable solution to the incomplete solution of E.V and I'd venture ultimately insurmountable challenges as a complete solution. I hope and expect a u turn regarding hybrid technology.

[Burwood]

due end of 2022-yeah ok. like FSD was due 2 years ago and still can't navigate someone driveway without banging into the house

[sean ie3]

I think that this is as relevant as any of the hyper saloons and I don't really know what the BS is about, although I just caught a CLS 63S thrapping past me and it sounded awesome.

[SDK]

monthefish said:

F20CN16 said:

To add:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollout_(drag_raci...

Thanks.

Basically it means a US 0-60mph is actually about 6-60mph with the Tesla S Plaid.

[otolith]

Jaroon said:

I hope and expect a u turn regarding hybrid technology.

Still burning oil.

[KJH]

Kavsie said:

Bit of a pointless comment when you are talking about hypercars that are out of reach to many and all have running costs that the Tesla will not come close to, and will all sit in garages not being used. The monaro again very few people are going to be rushing to buy because of running costs.

Instead you are going to have a bunch of people financing these things to high heaven who will then want to show off to their mates and loose control at stupid speeds on public roads. Yes people do this in other cars, but not at anything like the speed this will achieve in such a short period of time.

Key examples are the number of people using autopilot and have had accidents.

........you will see idiots like the certi drivers channel on youtube getting their hands on em next year.

[AdamV12AMR]

Augustus Windsock said:

Plus other toad cars will be going much more slowly

He always struck me as an amphibian in a hurry.

[9k rpm]

I wouldn’t spend money on any car made by a company run by that egotistical bell end. Regardless of how fast it is.

[768]

stickleback123 said:

Tesla is The Cool Brand with kids who can't drive, or if they can it's a smokey old VAG heap rather than a £100k EV, so this obsession with Top Trumps nonsense makes sense because that's how children and morons assess a car.

Of more interest is when are they going to make the thing drive like a proper luxury car, trim it like a proper luxury car, and when are they going to put them together like a proper luxury car. I wish them every luck in doing so because their charging network is still far superior to the others and that is the real killer feature of Tesla ownership.

Interior build quality is better from most other manufacturers, I get it, a friend went with the Taycan because of it. Smart choice for him I'm sure. But it's just another aspect just as 0-60 is, one that will matter more to older people with bad backs and less to those playing top trumps or with young kids who trash their cars. Personally I'm more concerned with range and recharge speed still, I can appreciate I'm in a diminishing minority there and it's nearly a non-issue.

If people are putting money down on a £120k car and not getting it for 2 years though their biggest issue isn't the feel of the panelling, the range, etc, it's just getting the cars out the door.

[otolith]

There are two issues on the interiors - the perceived quality in terms of fit and finish and choice of materials - and the aesthetic of big screen and minimalism. On the former, Tesla may have to move towards incumbent brands. On the latter, everyone is moving towards Tesla. Though there are still some goppingly fussy interiors out there.

[Augustus Windsock]

Water Fairy said:

Augustus Windsock said:

Pixelpeep Z4 said:

Augustus Windsock said:

I applaud performance in general, I really do, but I have to ask what that 0-60 time would be like for people who aren’t used to F1 / BTCC / drag cars? As in, will they be able to control the car competently when they deploy the full force of the car?
Plus other toad cars will be going much more slowly so what are the odds of hitting one in front of you or just the plain facts that just because the car has got insanely fast the road infrastructure hasn’t changed to accommodate it
But I’ll still celebrate the fact that such a thing is going to be built, that is until Greta and her tree-huggers decide to turn their attention to EVs and say they are the worst things to happen since...ICE cars.

What an odd thing to say.

a 75 year old lady could drop £3000 on a Yamaha R1/R6 after riding Honda C90s all her life. this 'going from slow to fast' isn't exclusive to EVs.

Also, if you've never owned a performance car and then decide to dip your toe into the world of EVs, you are hardly likely to fork out £118k on your first one, are you?

Renault zoe EV, 0-60 in 12 seconds. that's what people who don't care about performance will buy.

I’m sorry, I didn’t know tou were a social expert and commentator
Actually I remember a good few years ago when I was a cop going to a serious RTA (as it was then) involving a Porsche 911. Not a turbo a 996 Carerra iirc
The driver was 28 and had been given the car by his dad when he passed his test. No experience in driving, no sense either.
Some people are in the position of being able to afford daft stuff for their first fast car (in my case my first really quick thing was a Sierra Cosworth back when they were new but by then I’d been driving since 1980)
I respect your opinion even if I think you’re wrong ??

It's far more likely some nugget will be driving one of these soon than any old lady ever buying a sports bike though isn't it? RTA? That's gotta be 25 year ago.

Yep it was 25 years ago although the term was still in use a lot more recently than that iirc. But good spot!

[silentbrown]

768 said:

If people are putting money down on a £120k car and not getting it for 2 years though their biggest issue isn't the feel of the panelling, the range, etc, it's just getting the cars out the door.

“We’re in production and gonna deliver the first 25 cars now, and then basically should be at several hundred cars per week soon and a thousand cars per week next quarter,” Musk said.

[eyestwice]

Augustus Windsock said:

Some people are in the position of being able to afford daft stuff for their first fast car (in my case my first really quick thing was a Sierra Cosworth back when they were new but by then I’d been driving since 1980)

When I bought my 32GTR many years back, I used to hang out at the importer's every weekend. It was like a weekly social club.

Someone I knew from the SEAT owners club came from a MK2 Ibiza Cupra to a 33GTS-T. He was, IIRC 20 years old.

Within a month he'd wrapped it around a tree on the M23. Fatally.

[NicG]

Absolutely nuts car. I suspect it will be deeply unpleasant to travel in if the performance is being used. It’s a good job it is so expensive.

[off_again]

nunpuncher said:

1,020hp
0-60 in 1.99 seconds
top speed of 200mph

Incredible figures. I do wonder if we are close to the point where someone with a hard hat and a clipboard will step in and say "that's just too much".

Cough....

1.99 doesnt include the initial roll-out on the 0-60 sprint. See the video below that explains this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7yigpPSu_o

And hidden small print:

[Burwood]

off_again said:

nunpuncher said:

1,020hp
0-60 in 1.99 seconds
top speed of 200mph

Incredible figures. I do wonder if we are close to the point where someone with a hard hat and a clipboard will step in and say "that's just too much".

Cough....

1.99 doesnt include the initial roll-out on the 0-60 sprint. See the video below that explains this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7yigpPSu_o

And hidden small print:

Picture the traffic light hero-hey mate just hold back whilst I do my rollout

[Kavsie]

Pixelpeep Z4 said:

Let me see if i can dumb it down further without anything else to confuse you.

IDIOTS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO MONEY CAN BUY POWERFUL CARS AND CRASH.

THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR A LONG TIME. BEFORE TESLA AND BEFORE ELECTRIC CARS.

Completely missing the point but clearly you are so fixated on what you have said as opposed to reading anything else hence not acknowledging any point each time 👍

[epom]

Are those Tesla supplied figures? Independent figures will be interesting. To have fair I’ve no doubt it’s seriously seriously rapid, but Elon often throws out quotes and finishes them with or something…

[off_again]

Burwood said:

Picture the traffic light hero-hey mate just hold back whilst I do my rollout

I know, I am splitting hairs here.... but it concerns me that they are pushing a figure that isnt quite correct. People didnt believe Bugatti when they released the Veyron, so they proved it (multiple times), same with other vendors. Some manufacturers like to over estimate, but its a challenge when others, and its not just Tesla, blur the lines here.

Its still shockingly fast and the difference between 2.something and 1.99 is something you probably cant feel or identify.

[ZX10R NIN]

How many launches can you do before range becomes an issue, outstanding performance but the rest of the drive won't be involving.