RE: Neverending two-car story | PH Footnote

RE: Neverending two-car story | PH Footnote

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LSweeney87

6 posts

54 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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M140 (auto) for majority of journeys and then 981 GT4 for the fun stuff.

The M140 isn't mega practical, but can fit 4 normal sized folks, comfortable on long slogs, yet still great fun to drive when needed. The GT4 needs nothing more said.

Turini

417 posts

166 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Fair stab at a good two car garage…

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danorman777

20 posts

111 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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BMW M340i Touring
BMW 128ti for fun. If only they did a manual, although my son has a rare-ish manual M140i so I just borrow that to scratch the gearlever itch!

PH User

22,154 posts

108 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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A 2 car garage for me has 2 be manual for the fun car.

Holgate86

464 posts

40 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Couldn't do the two car garage thing as Porsche wouldn't sell me the car I wanted (thank God I had a lucky escape). So I'm a three car boy.....

BMW 530d Xdrive to do all the mundane day to day stuff with the grandkids at 45-50mpg.
R172 Mercedes SLK55 AMG for the NA V8, 420 bhp, noise and convertible stuff for the summer that the missus loves.
Then a Toyota GR Yaris CP for the full fat drivers car, manual, low gearing, special purpose....oh and as it's a hatch, can do the dirty stuff down to the tip.

The BMW is due to go next year, and an EV is looking strong as a replacement, the other two will be around for a long while yet I suspect.






BVB

1,102 posts

153 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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The new Defender is an insult to the original, and offensive in general. Hideous thing.

Mr Tidy

22,310 posts

127 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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My current pair are the 1st and 3rd in the photo (number 2 was sold shortly after).



I seem to be drawn to manual straight 6 petrols! laugh

cerb4.5lee

30,547 posts

180 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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I'm happy with my three(GLC350d(auto)/M4 Coupe(DCT)/370Z Roadster(manual).

cerb4.5lee

30,547 posts

180 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Holgate86 said:
Couldn't do the two car garage thing as Porsche wouldn't sell me the car I wanted (thank God I had a lucky escape). So I'm a three car boy.....

BMW 530d Xdrive to do all the mundane day to day stuff with the grandkids at 45-50mpg.
R172 Mercedes SLK55 AMG for the NA V8, 420 bhp, noise and convertible stuff for the summer that the missus loves.
Then a Toyota GR Yaris CP for the full fat drivers car, manual, low gearing, special purpose....oh and as it's a hatch, can do the dirty stuff down to the tip.

The BMW is due to go next year, and an EV is looking strong as a replacement, the other two will be around for a long while yet I suspect.





That is a very nice threesome. thumbup

I'd love another V8 for sure. smokin

cerb4.5lee

30,547 posts

180 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Mr Tidy said:
I seem to be drawn to manual straight 6 petrols! laugh
A great choice I reckon. thumbup

Your Z4M Coupe is a gorgeous looking thing for me. cloud9

bigwheel

1,618 posts

214 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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1 month old Hyundai Ioniq pure electric. Do it right, no hybrid.
Gets me to work.
Lots of tech makes it interesting in understanding a new way to drive.

Monaro CV8, cat back from new smile for weekend and long distance pleasure and thrills.

How's that for a balanced brace of motors!
(Perhaps I should call it the Ironic!)

vagmag

55 posts

161 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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997.2 Carrera s and Volvo XC60 T8 hybrid … also an I3 for wife that seems fun

Sporky

6,230 posts

64 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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BVB said:
The new Defender is an insult to the original, and offensive in general. Hideous thing.
That makes it a step up from the original, which was an insult to everyone who owned or drove it.

wink <- this to indicate exaggeration for comic effect.

F6C

455 posts

38 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Sporky said:
Lowish sales of the A110 in the UK have nothing to do with the gearbox, no matter what the vocal "real drivers" club likes to say. If it was available with a manual they'd find another reason not to buy it.
Probably.

From an actual driving perspective, though, god the car would be so much more appealing with a manual box and a small, musical NA V6.

PH User

22,154 posts

108 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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F6C said:
Sporky said:
Lowish sales of the A110 in the UK have nothing to do with the gearbox, no matter what the vocal "real drivers" club likes to say. If it was available with a manual they'd find another reason not to buy it.
Probably.

From an actual driving perspective, though, god the car would be so much more appealing with a manual box and a small, musical NA V6.
They would have sold more cars if the car had been offered with the choice of a manual gearbox, how many extra though is not clear.

AC43

11,484 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Mr E said:
One of these cars will get to 60 in under 6 seconds.
One of these cars will carry the entire family and all their stuff for hours at a time in complete comfort.

The other one is an elise.
Didn't know you had an Elise - whet a great combo. About as different as you could get.

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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AC43 said:
Didn't know you had an Elise - whet a great combo. About as different as you could get.
I have a leaf too. Just to cover all bases.

The Elise might be going (after 12 years). My commute has changed and it’s just not getting used. If it was a 2+2 it would be used for days out.

Evora then. smile

Sporky

6,230 posts

64 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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F6C said:
From an actual driving perspective, though, god the car would be so much more appealing with a manual box and a small, musical NA V6.
How much weight and cost would that add?

And before you say the manual would be lighter, have a look at the Morgan Plus 4 - the manual is heavier in that, as Alpine have said one would be in the A110. That V6 doesn't sound like one that's in production either.

And once you've added that extra weight you'd need bigger tyres, firmer suspension, a bigger fuel tank for the same range, and the spiral continues. You end up with something much like a Boxter/Cayman - I'm absolutely not saying that's not a great car, but it's a world (and a few hundred kilos) away from what the Alpine is. Could they hit the emissions requirements with an NA V6? Certainly in France it would have been hit with a massive hike in their road tax equivalent.

I like a good manual, and I like V6s. But I don't think either would have enhanced the A110 - they've have just changed it. I basically ended up choosing between an Evora GT400 (manual, S/C V6) and the Alpine, and overall the Alpine was even more fun to drive.

I'd rather have the thing in my garage (or, better, be in it enjoying it) than be sad that I don't drive something that doesn't exist. The Alpine, as it exists, is brilliant, and personally I'm just happy that it, the 718, the GR Yaris, the GT86/BRZ, MX5, Supra, F-Type and all the ones I've forgotten (sorry) are here for us to have fun in. For every single one there are things I could say "it'd be nice/better if...", but I'd rather get on with enjoying whichever one I can. If it wasn't a slightly scummy thing to do (given that I'm in no mood or financial position to change), I'd book test drives in all of those just so I could try them. It's unfashionable to say so, but I think we live in brilliant times for fun cars.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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A hot hatch and a sports car is a great 2 car garage. Not sure I would personally go Alpine and Fiesta as they are a bit too modern/remote for my liking but I see the appeal.

When I started driving I had a Caterham and 205 GTI. Loved them both.

Of course as we all know, 2 cars isn't enough to cover enough bases but that's for another time..

Tom4398cc

256 posts

34 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Brilliant original article. After very many years of being a lurker and enjoying a lot of what I read in the comments, it gave me the push to register for the forum.

I'd agree with others who have said that Dan has made this really hard for himself by not having a manual fun car. Having to have a manual big car really limits his scope to an older car (not a bad thing) or a pick up truck (which most on here would consider a bad thing).

Here's my fleet:
This one for winter, mountain biking, towing daughter's horse around, family trips, tips runs etc. Very easy to criticise but after nearly 4 years and 32,000 miles of wafting along (er, admittedly at 16mpg)....I love it:



And this one as my daily driver for work and fun. This is a relatively new addition for me. I'm fully of admiration for it but not quite in love with it yet. It needs the correct tyres fitting and the suspension rebuilding and setting up first.