RE: Mega Cayenne Coupe bags lap record

[A Winner Is You]

Fastdruid said:

Fishlegs said:

This is very silly. This is not how Cayennes are used.

They should go for a record for "Longest journey between toilet stops." or "Longest conference call on speakerphone without waking the kids in the back." or "Longest drive without removing an elbow from the arm rest."

Other categories:
"Most spaces parked over".
"Fastest time between speed bumps".
"Closest to the school gates".

"Largest amount of coke distributed within a 24 hour timeframe"

[Baldchap]

It's a full lap rather than a BTG, but if I can't buy one in exactly the same spec, then is it a production car?

If it isn't a production car, it's a slow racing car.

Honda, I'm looking at you...

[Eazy71]

We should be sceptical of anything that lists lap times on PZero Corsa tyres. Based on my Giulia QV in anything resembling a cold and damp day it will be like Bambi on ice! They might post good lap times but they are horrible for day to day use.

[PH User]

Baldchap said:

It's a full lap rather than a BTG, but if I can't buy one in exactly the same spec, then is it a production car?

If it isn't a production car, it's a slow racing car.

Honda, I'm looking at you...

Are Honda racing cars slow?

[Davismatt]

[quote=Fezzaman]So given that the current top of the range Cayenne coupe is the Turbo S E-Hybrid @ 131k, this will be say…. £150k?

And the rest, £180K + surely? They're looking to take Brabus G Class buyers so expect to see plenty of youtube footage of them wrapped around lamposts in Russia and the Middle East.

[RDMcG]

Pope said:

Had to do a double-take on that one - at first I thought it had had the wheels blown off it and been abandoned in a quarry!

I did actually rip the rocker panels off on that day....the poor car has dents and scratches all over. I leave it that way and will do the same with the new one when it arrives in October/November.Stops me worrying about the cosmetics though I am meticulous about the mechanics.

[Chunkychucky]

Excerpt from article:

"...deviating from showroom spec with the racing seat and cage all record cars use."

I applaud Alfa Romeo for bucking this daft trend and just sending the driver out in a helmet to get on with the job! Refreshing to see a manufacturer actually put some faith in their offering, and not insist on bestowing it with 10-tonnes of scaffolding in the back.

[PH User]

Chunkychucky said:

Excerpt from article:

"...deviating from showroom spec with the racing seat and cage all record cars use."

I applaud Alfa Romeo for bucking this daft trend and just sending the driver out in a helmet to get on with the job! Refreshing to see a manufacturer actually put some faith in their offering, and not insist on bestowing it with 10-tonnes of scaffolding in the back.

A race seat and a roll cage is a very sensible thing to do when you see the speeds that they are doing.

[Fastdruid]

PH User said:

Chunkychucky said:

Excerpt from article:

"...deviating from showroom spec with the racing seat and cage all record cars use."

I applaud Alfa Romeo for bucking this daft trend and just sending the driver out in a helmet to get on with the job! Refreshing to see a manufacturer actually put some faith in their offering, and not insist on bestowing it with 10-tonnes of scaffolding in the back.

A race seat and a roll cage is a very sensible thing to do when you see the speeds that they are doing.

Indeed it is...but at the same time a roll cage adds stiffness and removing the factory seat(s) can remove a significant amount of weight (although to be fair probably doesn't make up for the extra weight of the cage).

[PH User]

Fastdruid said:

PH User said:

Chunkychucky said:

Excerpt from article:

"...deviating from showroom spec with the racing seat and cage all record cars use."

I applaud Alfa Romeo for bucking this daft trend and just sending the driver out in a helmet to get on with the job! Refreshing to see a manufacturer actually put some faith in their offering, and not insist on bestowing it with 10-tonnes of scaffolding in the back.

A race seat and a roll cage is a very sensible thing to do when you see the speeds that they are doing.

Indeed it is...but at the same time a roll cage adds stiffness and removing the factory seat(s) can remove a significant amount of weight (although to be fair probably doesn't make up for the extra weight of the cage).

If they are all (or almost all) doing it then it all levels out.

[RB Will]

I’d presume it is primarily done for bum covering reasons should the worst happen rather than for any major advantage in performance. That may be a happy coincidence but as said of everyone else is doing it then fine.

[The spinner of plates]

PH User said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

The spinner of plates said:

Limpet said:

As a petrolhead, it troubles me that I should be impressed and excited by this, but in reality, I just don't give a toss. If I dig really deep there's some respect for the engineering involved, but that is really about it.

Who does this actually matter to beyond Porsche's marketing team? Not a rhetorical question by the way.

+1

I'm not sure but I don't necessarily view it as "this car is fast around the ring" but more extrapolate "if this car goes round the 'Ring that fast then it'd be competent if you fancy a quick drive" as well as realising that it must go quick in a straight line, brake quickly (both of which are useful in day to day driving as well as if you need to do an emergency stop) and it also must handle pretty well and not like a wallowy mess.

I don't think the fact it's 1 or 2 seconds quicker or slower than the next car matters (to me). Anything with a time this fast is going to perform well when you want it to. I don't read into the exact numbers much, but a ballpark figure can be useful.

That's exactly how I view it. You know that it will be safely rapid across country....not that it's my sort of car.

No doubt, but IME the better a car is at 'rapid across country', the worse it is at being comfortable ambling along at 3/10ths with the family and dog onboard.

For a big utilitarian car with off road capabilities I don't give a damn how well it handles going fast on tarmac. It's not the sort of car I'll ever need or want to drive in that sort of way.

I'm not going to buy one, I don't care that others will and everyone's view's are different.. just giving my opinion.

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

The spinner of plates said:

No doubt, but IME the better a car is at 'rapid across country', the worse it is at being comfortable ambling along at 3/10ths with the family and dog onboard.

For a big utilitarian car with off road capabilities I don't give a damn how well it handles going fast on tarmac. It's not the sort of car I'll ever need or want to drive in that sort of way.

I'm not going to buy one, I don't care that others will and everyone's view's are different.. just giving my opinion.

Well clearly you're not in the market (neither am I) so it doesn't matter what you or I think.

Modern high performance cars, especially those on air suspension, can handle very well AND have modes where they're very comfortable, so they aren't always mutually exclusive, I wouldn't assume it rides poorly.

[dpop]

Do you know what would make it even faster around the Ring? If it was lower and lighter... like a normal car

[PH User]

The spinner of plates said:

PH User said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

The spinner of plates said:

Limpet said:

As a petrolhead, it troubles me that I should be impressed and excited by this, but in reality, I just don't give a toss. If I dig really deep there's some respect for the engineering involved, but that is really about it.

Who does this actually matter to beyond Porsche's marketing team? Not a rhetorical question by the way.

+1

I'm not sure but I don't necessarily view it as "this car is fast around the ring" but more extrapolate "if this car goes round the 'Ring that fast then it'd be competent if you fancy a quick drive" as well as realising that it must go quick in a straight line, brake quickly (both of which are useful in day to day driving as well as if you need to do an emergency stop) and it also must handle pretty well and not like a wallowy mess.

I don't think the fact it's 1 or 2 seconds quicker or slower than the next car matters (to me). Anything with a time this fast is going to perform well when you want it to. I don't read into the exact numbers much, but a ballpark figure can be useful.

That's exactly how I view it. You know that it will be safely rapid across country....not that it's my sort of car.

No doubt, but IME the better a car is at 'rapid across country', the worse it is at being comfortable ambling along at 3/10ths with the family and dog onboard.

For a big utilitarian car with off road capabilities I don't give a damn how well it handles going fast on tarmac. It's not the sort of car I'll ever need or want to drive in that sort of way.

I'm not going to buy one, I don't care that others will and everyone's view's are different.. just giving my opinion.

You can also get big utilitarian car with off road capabilities that are much slower and more comfortable if that's what you want.

I'm also not going to buy one, but I do get why someone might want an SUV that also has a bit of pace.

[IMI A]

Last car I'd let go in the garage. Makes life with large family very comfortable indeed. If I could make do with a smaller one I'd buy this new Cayenne in a heartbeat.

[A_K]

magic Monkey Dust said:

i was following a Cayenne turbo s across Derbyshire in my 997s the other evening and it was impressively rapid over very challenging roads. when i pulled level with it in :Leek. it was a middle aged woman with child seats. i think the electronics in these cars do a lot of the driving.

What a stupidly ageist and sexist comment. I’m sure there are a lot of middle aged women with kids who can drive better than you.