RE: Cayman GT4 PDK vs. A110 Legende GT vs. Huracan RWD

RE: Cayman GT4 PDK vs. A110 Legende GT vs. Huracan RWD

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HokumPokum

2,051 posts

205 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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You really have to see the Alpine in person. It does look different and I think will be more enduring in the long term. But looks are subjective where the ride and handling over bumpy roads are not. Driving the S model reveals a more compliant ride than most cars period, yet with the handling to match. Acceleration is only adequate in the S model and luggage space is woeful. But that’s what happens when you have double wishbone all round and not struts (like a cayman)

The weight of the car is to be celebrated and I’m a Porsche fanboy

Olivera

7,140 posts

239 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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The A110 just looks gopping from this angle:



And also looks slab sided in other pics and generally not attractive. I concede it looks better (if still not aesthetically pleasing) in person.

Maxym

2,040 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Olivera said:
The A110 just looks gopping from this angle:



And also looks slab sided in other pics and generally not attractive. I concede it looks better (if still not aesthetically pleasing) in person.
Have to agree. Cayman for me. Not that the Lamborghini isn't very desirable... just that it's none too practical as an ownership proposition. Wouldn't mind a drive of one though!

chelme

1,353 posts

170 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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I sense the Alpine would be the best of the bunch on these roads.

The other two are way too powerful for the road and the Porsche with its long gearing would be frustrating too.

Then you have the perfectly set up, supple and playful nature of the Alpine chassis... the only misgiving is the lack of a manual.

Oh and aesthetically, the Alpine does look a lot better in the metal, than in photos.

Newton472

165 posts

42 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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PH User said:
What does the A110 share with a Clio? A parent company is all I can think of?
I think a lot of the interior parts are shared - switchgear, storks, etc. The Alpine interior is not really in the same class.

Maxym

2,040 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Newton472 said:
I think a lot of the interior parts are shared - switchgear, storks, etc. The Alpine interior is not really in the same class.
Storks. rolleyes

Vee12V

1,333 posts

160 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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mike150 said:
Lightweight, mid-engined, rear drive sports cars......................yet no Lotus?

A lambo car hardly be classed as light weight!
I agree. There should've been a Lotus in the group. Although these are all DCTs which Lotus doesn't have.

ITP

2,004 posts

197 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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The alpine being automatic only is one of modern motoring’s biggest disappointments.

Who wants a lightweight automatic sports car?

It’s like Mazda only ever offering the mx5 automatic only. Utterly idiotic. I guess the sales figures bears it out.

howardhughes

1,006 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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I saw my first Alpine earlier today and have to say first impressions were Luke warm. Porsche for me.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Clearly no one in their right mind would buy this basic Lambo over a limited run more focussed Performante.

So as the 110 is an instant rejection for various reasons not least its ridiculously awkward looks, its another clear win for the GT4.

But in manual form as there is far greater interaction and the gear ratios are very similar too.

Glenn63

2,757 posts

84 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Out of these 3 just the noise and theatre of that lambo v10 would bring me more joy then anything the other 2 have.
EVO RWD spyder would be my choice.
To me the Alpine looks awful and although it’s the lightest, once packed with 2 people and luggage the extra weight will affect the drive much more then the others.
If I had to go true lightweight then I can’t think of anything better then the Elise cup 250 cloud9

mcmigo

122 posts

153 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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I have an Alpine but would happily swap it for that wonderful Lamborghini. What a fantastic looking car.

stongle

5,910 posts

162 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Olivera said:
The A110 just looks gopping from this angle:



And also looks slab sided in other pics and generally not attractive. I concede it looks better (if still not aesthetically pleasing) in person.
Tend to agree, in pictures they look like a bloated Kei car. It just looks arrogantly styled. Which for a French company is par for the course, but they forgot to add fun here.

Much better in the flesh though. A lot better. This has to be the one car where pictures do it no justice.

Still wouldn't have one, at 60k they are reaching. This is a really weird and limited market. Once you are in the 60k + sportscar bracket you have to be really committed to NOT buy the correct answer which is always 911. Unless you are rich enough that a French curiosity is an itch you can scratch.

The Cayman too, massive commitment needed at a whisker under 100k. All 3 of these are probably toys, not daily's.

Black S2K

1,471 posts

249 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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chelme said:
I sense the Alpine would be the best of the bunch on these roads.

The other two are way too powerful for the road and the Porsche with its long gearing would be frustrating too.

Then you have the perfectly set up, supple and playful nature of the Alpine chassis... the only misgiving is the lack of a manual.

Oh and aesthetically, the Alpine does look a lot better in the metal, than in photos.
The Alpine is (like many moderns) very colour-sensitive.

I saw two alongside one another.

It was unappealling in Surrender White, but I thought quite fetching in French Retreating Blue.

Not as pretty as the original, but whenever is that the case?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,076 posts

212 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Water Fairy said:
Surprised at the Lambo's 'weight' but only the Alpine is anywhere near what you would call lightweight. Shame it's the worst looking.
I don't think circa 1500kgs for a 4WD car with a big V10 engine and 4WD with enough tech and creature comforts to make it a viable daily driver is too heavy.....Are there many other 4WD cars with similar-sized engines and performance which are much lighter? 911 Turbo S unladen weight is 1640kgs. Can you give any examples which justify your comments to suggest the Lambo is especially heavy, given the type of car it is?

ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Newton472 said:
I think a lot of the interior parts are shared - switchgear, storks, etc. The Alpine interior is not really in the same class.
I agree but that's why it's 50k but I do like the fact it holds it's own.

T1berious

2,259 posts

155 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Think if you've got the folding for the Lambo it's a bit of a no brainer. If you've got the 100k for the GT4 PDK and are on the Xmas card list with your local OPC, that's you sorted.

If your budget is fiscally challenged and you want a DCT equipped lightweight, Alpine is the answer.

It's an interesting group test and it's great to read that although it's not a giant killer, the A110 didn't embarrass itself in this exalted company.

Put like that, it's pretty high praise.

MyV10BarksAndBites

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938 posts

49 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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chelme said:
I sense the Alpine would be the best of the bunch on these roads.

The other two are way too powerful for the road and the Porsche with its long gearing would be frustrating too.

Then you have the perfectly set up, supple and playful nature of the Alpine chassis... the only misgiving is the lack of a manual.

Oh and aesthetically, the Alpine does look a lot better in the metal, than in photos.
Have driven both and the Lambo is just more fun everywhere!!!

Also way more of an event, has an aura, soul and sound that can't be matched at anytime or at any speed by any Alpine.... Plus more importantly for fun, the option for even more daftness if the mood suits you... No comparison....

These are not Lambos of old, they are brilliantly balanced, wild road racers...


Should try one.... beer

MyV10BarksAndBites

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938 posts

49 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Glenn63 said:
Out of these 3 just the noise and theatre of that lambo v10 would bring me more joy then anything the other 2 have.
EVO RWD spyder would be my choice.
To me the Alpine looks awful and although it’s the lightest, once packed with 2 people and luggage the extra weight will affect the drive much more then the others.
If I had to go true lightweight then I can’t think of anything better then the Elise cup 250 cloud9
This!!!

MyV10BarksAndBites

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938 posts

49 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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DDg said:
Alpine for me - it's the only one without embarassing Timmy Mallet styling.
I actually like the Alpine but if we're being honest.... It is the only one that actually "resembles" Timmy Mallet, bad proportions, gawky and the rest... lol