RE: Mercedes C63 AMG (W204) | The Brave Pill

RE: Mercedes C63 AMG (W204) | The Brave Pill

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Temo_Wil

161 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Lovely cars, planning to replace my B7 RS4 Avant with a 507 estate later this year (just need to find one).

davyvee

295 posts

134 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Temo_Wil said:
Lovely cars, planning to replace my B7 RS4 Avant with a 507 estate later this year (just need to find one).
Good luck with that. Took me a year to find a decent normal estate.

leglessAlex

5,384 posts

140 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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borat52 said:
To be honest I did expect it to be different. It weighs more or less the same as an R35 GTR and was benchmarked against the M3 which is objectively designed to be a practical sports car.

The suspension is too hard to be considered comfortable but you don't get the handling to match that offset in ride quality in my opinion.

Perhaps I just don't get the car, I find it really strange. As I said before if the Mrs wasn't fond of it then it would have been shipped on long ago.

It's not a dog either, its a <40k miles and FMBSH car with all the right bits done on it.

As you have said, the one redeeming feature is the engine, the noise is incredible.
Fair enough. The saloons are about 1,800kg when the owners have had them on scales, with fluids but no driver, so they're chunky things. I'm not sure about the coupe, but I imagine it isn't all that much less, and I think the estates are about 50-100kg heavier. They're not light!

You're correct, they were the M3 competitor, I guess in my own mind I always saw them as a European muscle car. They certainly sound like one!

Anyway, for the sake of the thread, here are some photos of AV60 XLX. Damn I miss that car a lot, should never, ever have sold it.

Mercedes C63 by Alex D, on Flickr

C63 AMG by Alex D, on Flickr

Temo_Wil

161 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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davyvee said:
Temo_Wil said:
Lovely cars, planning to replace my B7 RS4 Avant with a 507 estate later this year (just need to find one).
Good luck with that. Took me a year to find a decent normal estate.
Never said it was going to be quick but I’m sure one will come up.

belleair302

6,835 posts

206 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Here is mine with around 530 bhp as liberated by DMS. Car has an aftermarket LSD from Quaife and is a quick drive. Servicing costs around £1200 a year insurance isn’t bad and fuel isn’t silly unless you are doing 8,000 a year or more. This is a keeper. Build quality is fair and I like the 19 inch wheels. Have winter wheels and tyres so an use it when roads get greasy.

pitmmald

3 posts

81 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Had a 507 from new, fantastic car, regret selling it one owner with 23,000 on the clock. An every day super saloon, put a smile on your face every day. Even in the wet. Two sets of wheels one with winters and one with pilot sports, you cn go 265 on the back. My GTR had 275 on the fromsmile

beresd

91 posts

81 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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BarcelonaLewis said:
I never thought I'd be saying this, but our next family wagon will most likely be a plug-in. In 5 years time the demand for petrol stations will be significantly lower, and in 10, 15, 20 it'll surely be difficult to fill up - that doesn't seem to be taken into account when people pre-empt future values of cars like this.
Don't bet on it. Currently 40million cars on the road, around 250,000 electric, rising at 10% per year. Even over the next ten years of adoption that's still 45million to 50 million fossil fuel cars to service, with a lifetime of (for example) 20 years....It will still be fine to fill up.

(I'm betting on syn-fuel. Don't want to bin the 911 just yet.)

Hoppum

134 posts

97 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Temo_Wil said:
Lovely cars, planning to replace my B7 RS4 Avant with a 507 estate later this year (just need to find one).
davyvee said:
Good luck with that. Took me a year to find a decent normal estate.
Add to that apparently only 21 507 estates produced for the UK market.

Homewood_L

1 posts

91 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Hoppum said:
Have a 507 estate. Does everything I need it to and more. Not had any scary bills but the warranty has had a workout. Can't fault the Mercedes extended warranty, had a seized offside front caliper and Mercedes replaced both fronts under warranty at I'm told £5.5k a side. On the flip side if I didn't have the warranty, the work would've been done at an independent and the caliper would've been refurbed rather than both replaced.



The gearbox isn't the best compared to a modern dual clutch, but put it in Sport+, wind the windows down and you'll forget all about it.
I actually worked in the same office as the previous owner. No idea exactly who owned it, however it would actually vibrate the floor of the office from the car park below on cold start! It obviously left a lasting impression as I eventually purchased a 2012 saloon late last year.

big_rob_sydney

3,394 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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martin mrt said:
Address the points raised, that one over exaggerated repair cost has been raised on several occasions as incorrect. Something you have chosen to ignore.

Shoot the messenger I shall, your bringing up absolute bullst about these cars as you’ve “done research on the internet”
The vast majority of owners have very little issues as can be seen on here, myself included.
People always make a noise when something goes wrong, but usually say nothing when everything works as it should

I’m under no illusions that these are cheap vehicles to maintain, but neither are their direct rivals, one of which I have also owned which wasn’t exactly faultless given it’s relative youth.

I’d love to know what you’d spend the same budget on.
You say I'm bringing up "absolute bullst"? As I said before, if you disagree with the findings that the people quoted have raised, take it up with them. That said, if you bothered to watch the videos in question, they actually show you examples of the head bolts, with the earlier models being much thinner, and a resultant corrosion attack. Having presented that to the camera, I'd love to know how that is "absolute bullst", when you can see it with your own two eyes.

Watch the rest of the video, then come back and tell us how the rest of what was said was also "absolute bullst"...

As for what I'd spend my money on, I'd invest it in hookers and blow. But that's neither here nor there. When a thread comes up on THAT topic, by all means let's discuss it. But in the meantime, this thread is about the c63.

jmac105

22 posts

34 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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As with all cars of this age there's a lot of pretty high mileage examples for sale. What do people consider to be a low/reasonable milage for a car like this?

Terzo123

4,309 posts

207 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Mine was built in 2011, one of the last pre face lifts.

It's only done 41k


Don1

15,936 posts

207 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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2012 face-lift 50k miles for me.

martin mrt

3,768 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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big_rob_sydney said:
martin mrt said:
Address the points raised, that one over exaggerated repair cost has been raised on several occasions as incorrect. Something you have chosen to ignore.

Shoot the messenger I shall, your bringing up absolute bullst about these cars as you’ve “done research on the internet”
The vast majority of owners have very little issues as can be seen on here, myself included.
People always make a noise when something goes wrong, but usually say nothing when everything works as it should

I’m under no illusions that these are cheap vehicles to maintain, but neither are their direct rivals, one of which I have also owned which wasn’t exactly faultless given it’s relative youth.

I’d love to know what you’d spend the same budget on.
You say I'm bringing up "absolute bullst"? As I said before, if you disagree with the findings that the people quoted have raised, take it up with them. That said, if you bothered to watch the videos in question, they actually show you examples of the head bolts, with the earlier models being much thinner, and a resultant corrosion attack. Having presented that to the camera, I'd love to know how that is "absolute bullst", when you can see it with your own two eyes.

Watch the rest of the video, then come back and tell us how the rest of what was said was also "absolute bullst"...

As for what I'd spend my money on, I'd invest it in hookers and blow. But that's neither here nor there. When a thread comes up on THAT topic, by all means let's discuss it. But in the meantime, this thread is about the c63.
You implied from the outset that they are 10 year old POS Mercs and you wouldn’t buy one, then used some internet videos to give your opinion a decorum of credit in your mind. That is my analysis of your bullst claims.

It’s apparent that your no fan of German vehicles, which is fine, as I am no huge fan of Japanese products, so each to their own.

The head bolt issue was addressed and revised, the car in question shouldn’t have this issue given it’s age.

HocusPocus

866 posts

100 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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big_rob_sydney said:
martin mrt said:
Address the points raised, that one over exaggerated repair cost has been raised on several occasions as incorrect. Something you have chosen to ignore.

Shoot the messenger I shall, your bringing up absolute bullst about these cars as you’ve “done research on the internet”
The vast majority of owners have very little issues as can be seen on here, myself included.
People always make a noise when something goes wrong, but usually say nothing when everything works as it should

I’m under no illusions that these are cheap vehicles to maintain, but neither are their direct rivals, one of which I have also owned which wasn’t exactly faultless given it’s relative youth.

I’d love to know what you’d spend the same budget on.
You say I'm bringing up "absolute bullst"? As I said before, if you disagree with the findings that the people quoted have raised, take it up with them. That said, if you bothered to watch the videos in question, they actually show you examples of the head bolts, with the earlier models being much thinner, and a resultant corrosion attack. Having presented that to the camera, I'd love to know how that is "absolute bullst", when you can see it with your own two eyes.

Watch the rest of the video, then come back and tell us how the rest of what was said was also "absolute bullst"...

As for what I'd spend my money on, I'd invest it in hookers and blow. But that's neither here nor there. When a thread comes up on THAT topic, by all means let's discuss it. But in the meantime, this thread is about the c63.
Classy! Cannot fathom what you seek to gain by parading yourself like this in a public forum.

Fuzzy69r

159 posts

82 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Being an ex Mercedes mechanic I will always have a soft spot for these AMG lump hammers but for me I wouldn’t touch this one with a ten foot barge pole as all the chav/ wker alarm bells are going off, but regarding the constant back and forward bickering on this post and others is getting boring now and it’s ultimately ruining this forum for me .



Edited by Fuzzy69r on Friday 25th June 07:11

Harrypop

2,611 posts

121 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Fuzzy69r said:
Being an ex Mercedes mechanic I will always have a soft spot for these AMG lump hammers but for me I wouldn’t touch this one with a ten foot barge pole as all the chav/ wker alarm bells are going off, but regarding the constant back and forward bickering on this post and others is getting boring now and it’s ultimately ruining this forum for me .



Edited by Fuzzy69r on Friday 25th June 07:11
You might want to avoid SUV threads then, Big Rob has a habit of ruining them as well with 'contributions' which no one else other than himself cares about.

Magikarp

754 posts

47 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Number plate on the dashboard? Sure indicator the car is missing all major services and running Davanti tyres. It would have had an oil change in 2018, though.

Hoppum

134 posts

97 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Homewood_L said:
I actually worked in the same office as the previous owner. No idea exactly who owned it, however it would actually vibrate the floor of the office from the car park below on cold start! It obviously left a lasting impression as I eventually purchased a 2012 saloon late last year.
Small world!

big_rob_sydney

3,394 posts

193 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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HocusPocus said:
big_rob_sydney said:
martin mrt said:
Address the points raised, that one over exaggerated repair cost has been raised on several occasions as incorrect. Something you have chosen to ignore.

Shoot the messenger I shall, your bringing up absolute bullst about these cars as you’ve “done research on the internet”
The vast majority of owners have very little issues as can be seen on here, myself included.
People always make a noise when something goes wrong, but usually say nothing when everything works as it should

I’m under no illusions that these are cheap vehicles to maintain, but neither are their direct rivals, one of which I have also owned which wasn’t exactly faultless given it’s relative youth.

I’d love to know what you’d spend the same budget on.
You say I'm bringing up "absolute bullst"? As I said before, if you disagree with the findings that the people quoted have raised, take it up with them. That said, if you bothered to watch the videos in question, they actually show you examples of the head bolts, with the earlier models being much thinner, and a resultant corrosion attack. Having presented that to the camera, I'd love to know how that is "absolute bullst", when you can see it with your own two eyes.

Watch the rest of the video, then come back and tell us how the rest of what was said was also "absolute bullst"...

As for what I'd spend my money on, I'd invest it in hookers and blow. But that's neither here nor there. When a thread comes up on THAT topic, by all means let's discuss it. But in the meantime, this thread is about the c63.
Classy! Cannot fathom what you seek to gain by parading yourself like this in a public forum.
My answer was somewhat tongue in cheek, in response to what is clearly someone who does not understand what they see with their own two eyes.

That said, thank you, for being yet another straw man refusing to discuss the issues in question, and instead attacking the messenger.