RE: Ford Mondeo ST200 | Spotted
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Pistonheader101 said:
These just scream council estate
I think you are perhaps a few years behind the curve there, they will have migrated down to less affluent owners like most cars do, but that was a while ago and there wont be many about anywhere, suspect will have been replaced by newer German equivalents.If you see one nowadays, pound to a penny its an enthusiast owner, even the MK3 Mondeo is no longer in the cheap old banger category as most have been scrapped, I get nostalgic for a duct tape enhanced Mk1 or MK2, not seen one in years, to be fair they are all 20 to 25 years old now, that makes me feel old as well.
I love the ST200. These hit the market just as I was awakening my interest in cars. The Ford Duratec V6 is a lovely engine in its own right too. The ST200 had a good few subtle changes which set it apart dynamically from the ST24 as well - more than just the larger secondary throttles and extrude-honed inlet manifold and cams from whence the extra 32bhp came. The front subframe and wishbones were different to accommodate different bushes and the anti-roll bars were different too. These also found their way onto the Cougars also.
I always laugh at these council estate comments. I'd rather be council than "aspirational".
I always laugh at these council estate comments. I'd rather be council than "aspirational".
I had two of these back in the early 2000s. One of the hatch and one saloon ltd edition and i wish to god i hadn't got rid of either. Later two of the st220's.
They made a terrific noise, they drew attention everywhere it went. The ride was good and it ate miles on a motorway like the best of the German brigade. It was really something quite special in a number of ways. I parked up a show once, not as an entry, just in the car park and it drew more attention than a lot of the cars going into the gates to be on stands. I remember being offered a straight swap by a ford enthusiast for his sierra cosworth at the time. Maybe i should have done that but i don't know. The mondeo was just lovely place to be.
The performance was useable but they were quick enough, you could add a few horses with subtle breathing mods and a piggy back ecu if you wanted but it didn't really need it. An intake and subtle exhaust really made the engine sing though, that v6 was lovely. I believe it was used in the noble car too?? You could if you wanted buy a crate engine from Noble with a turbo too and chuck it in, i think maybe one or two owners did that if i remember from the forum days.
On the downside, by god, did it love to drink, 12mpg was not unheard of around town. It was a very thirsty and it was prone to rust too, probably why not so many about. The clutch was a pain to change as the subframe had to be dropped to do it and if you pushed on alot of the time, it really did like to eat tyres.
Man i do miss that car.
They made a terrific noise, they drew attention everywhere it went. The ride was good and it ate miles on a motorway like the best of the German brigade. It was really something quite special in a number of ways. I parked up a show once, not as an entry, just in the car park and it drew more attention than a lot of the cars going into the gates to be on stands. I remember being offered a straight swap by a ford enthusiast for his sierra cosworth at the time. Maybe i should have done that but i don't know. The mondeo was just lovely place to be.
The performance was useable but they were quick enough, you could add a few horses with subtle breathing mods and a piggy back ecu if you wanted but it didn't really need it. An intake and subtle exhaust really made the engine sing though, that v6 was lovely. I believe it was used in the noble car too?? You could if you wanted buy a crate engine from Noble with a turbo too and chuck it in, i think maybe one or two owners did that if i remember from the forum days.
On the downside, by god, did it love to drink, 12mpg was not unheard of around town. It was a very thirsty and it was prone to rust too, probably why not so many about. The clutch was a pain to change as the subframe had to be dropped to do it and if you pushed on alot of the time, it really did like to eat tyres.
Man i do miss that car.
Had one as a company car - picked it up on Jan 4th 2000 with 4 miles on the clock, bought it from the company in 2003 when it's time was up and then ran it to over 203k before getting rid as it was like Swiss cheese underneath with more holes than a rabbit warren...
Great car in it's day and when it was dyno'd at around 100k miles it was putting out 217bhp. Comfortable Recaro full leather seats which lasted well and didn't show their age despite the mileage the car racked up. Rear tyres last until 101k miles before one of them picked up a puncture so ended up changing both... Seemed to recall it wasn't too bad on the fronts either, typically around 20k miles per set... Typically would see around 27mpg as an average but it could be quite thirsty when pushed.
Back in the day Vicki B H said on 5th Gear that the only thing wrong with the ST200 was the badge... If it was BMW instead of Ford it would sell like hot cakes...
Don't know whether a subliminal message was picked up from Top gear but the July 1999 edition might be responsible for my garage in 2004 !!!
Great car in it's day and when it was dyno'd at around 100k miles it was putting out 217bhp. Comfortable Recaro full leather seats which lasted well and didn't show their age despite the mileage the car racked up. Rear tyres last until 101k miles before one of them picked up a puncture so ended up changing both... Seemed to recall it wasn't too bad on the fronts either, typically around 20k miles per set... Typically would see around 27mpg as an average but it could be quite thirsty when pushed.
Back in the day Vicki B H said on 5th Gear that the only thing wrong with the ST200 was the badge... If it was BMW instead of Ford it would sell like hot cakes...
Don't know whether a subliminal message was picked up from Top gear but the July 1999 edition might be responsible for my garage in 2004 !!!
Edited by Seesure on Monday 21st June 09:42
Fantastic cars, but if you are considering buying one make sure you check behind the body kit.
In typical Ford fashion, the side skirts not only looked good, but were also brilliant at collecting and storing water/dirt.
This caused the inner and outer sills (already weak points on the Mondeo) to dissolve quicker than an Italian government.
In typical Ford fashion, the side skirts not only looked good, but were also brilliant at collecting and storing water/dirt.
This caused the inner and outer sills (already weak points on the Mondeo) to dissolve quicker than an Italian government.
Loplop said:
There's a lot of 'forgotten' SuperTourer era homologation cars.
The MK1 Mondeo was available in 'Si' trim, which was for ST regulations if I recall, before they partnered with ProDrive and went full force for the title.
There was the Laguna RTi, which was nowhere near as special but had a respectable donkey under the bonnet.
There was also a 406 that I can't quite remember the name of.
The Accord Type R interestingly is not the car that was raced in SuperTouring, the engine is completely different (it's an 'F' series 4 pot as seen in the normal Accords, but with a H22 head on it).
This is my Mk1 Si. My love of Mondeos came from their entry into the BTCC back in 1993.The MK1 Mondeo was available in 'Si' trim, which was for ST regulations if I recall, before they partnered with ProDrive and went full force for the title.
There was the Laguna RTi, which was nowhere near as special but had a respectable donkey under the bonnet.
There was also a 406 that I can't quite remember the name of.
The Accord Type R interestingly is not the car that was raced in SuperTouring, the engine is completely different (it's an 'F' series 4 pot as seen in the normal Accords, but with a H22 head on it).
Incidentally, this cost me £1500...................and a lot of time and elbow grease.
rwindmill said:
This is my Mk1 Si. My love of Mondeos came from their entry into the BTCC back in 1993.
Incidentally, this cost me £1500...................and a lot of time and elbow grease.
That's lovely. Incidentally, this cost me £1500...................and a lot of time and elbow grease.
I used to sell them new, and the Si wasn't a big seller, so I can't imagine many have survived at all.
There was a "Full RS Dress Up" factory option, which consisted of a full factory body kit. A customer ordered one with this option, in Citrine Yellow which was pretty much the same colour as a yellow highlighter pen. Then they cancelled the order.
It sat in our showroom for about a year, and they virtually gave it away in the end. It looked outrageous at the time, and was certainly a talking point, but nobody seemed to be brave enough to put their money where their mouth was.
Limpet said:
rwindmill said:
This is my Mk1 Si. My love of Mondeos came from their entry into the BTCC back in 1993.
Incidentally, this cost me £1500...................and a lot of time and elbow grease.
That's lovely. Incidentally, this cost me £1500...................and a lot of time and elbow grease.
I used to sell them new, and the Si wasn't a big seller, so I can't imagine many have survived at all.
There was a "Full RS Dress Up" factory option, which consisted of a full factory body kit. A customer ordered one with this option, in Citrine Yellow which was pretty much the same colour as a yellow highlighter pen. Then they cancelled the order.
It sat in our showroom for about a year, and they virtually gave it away in the end. It looked outrageous at the time, and was certainly a talking point, but nobody seemed to be brave enough to put their money where their mouth was.
Personally, I could never warm up to the Citrine colour. Like you say, its the exact same shade as a highlighter pen. But for the early 90's,it was spot-on.
J4CKO said:
I think you are perhaps a few years behind the curve there, they will have migrated down to less affluent owners like most cars do, but that was a while ago and there wont be many about anywhere, suspect will have been replaced by newer German equivalents.
If you see one nowadays, pound to a penny its an enthusiast owner, even the MK3 Mondeo is no longer in the cheap old banger category as most have been scrapped, I get nostalgic for a duct tape enhanced Mk1 or MK2, not seen one in years, to be fair they are all 20 to 25 years old now, that makes me feel old as well.
This times lots. It happens to lots of cars. E36 BMW’s fell into this category, loads were barried but they’ve come through it and new seem to be loved.If you see one nowadays, pound to a penny its an enthusiast owner, even the MK3 Mondeo is no longer in the cheap old banger category as most have been scrapped, I get nostalgic for a duct tape enhanced Mk1 or MK2, not seen one in years, to be fair they are all 20 to 25 years old now, that makes me feel old as well.
You can’t win on PH; older performance car is council, new car and you’re just keeping up with the Jones’s.
optimal909 said:
Wholesome comment as it was exactly my case, my father bought it as new and I inherited. Not exactly ST24, but a 2.5 manual Ghia with ST looks.
I had a year 2000 model manual V6 Ghia X from 2007 to 2010 that I ran alongside my Cerbera and I absolutely loved it. I actually preferred it to my ST24 because of the lovely spec it had(full leather/fuel computer etc). cerb4.5lee said:
I had a year 2000 model manual V6 Ghia X from 2007 to 2010 that I ran alongside my Cerbera and I absolutely loved it. I actually preferred it to my ST24 because of the lovely spec it had(full leather/fuel computer etc).
The 1998 Ghia X 2.5 I had before my ST200...loved it as it was higher spec'd than the ST200 and turned heads wherever it went with the pearlescent paint, the ST body kit and chrome alloys... The picture doesn't show it clearly but it was a dark green and in the sunshine it absolutely glistened...
This or an Alfa 155 v6 with touring pack?
That was my Dads company car decision back in the day, and the Alfa won.
It wasnt as good a car as the mondeo, as well spec'd, as good to drive.
But Tarquini had just won the touring cars in the Alfa in 1994, and what you purchased from the Alfa dealer looked remarkably similar.... and that v6 engine!
Seesure said:
The 1998 Ghia X 2.5 I had before my ST200...loved it as it was higher spec'd than the ST200 and turned heads wherever it went with the pearlescent paint, the ST body kit and chrome alloys... The picture doesn't show it clearly but it was a dark green and in the sunshine it absolutely glistened...
Very nice. 
SuperSonicSloth said:
s m said:
Looks in nice nick but I’d rather have the Vauxhall ST200 at I think it’s just a bit more special ( LSD, AP brakes, engine sounds a bit nicer IMO )
I never even realised there was a Vauxhall ST200, just had to Google it. Looks interesting, but I was always more of a Ford man.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff