RE: Porsche reveals new 911 Carrera GTS

RE: Porsche reveals new 911 Carrera GTS

Wednesday 23rd June 2021

Porsche reveals new 911 Carrera GTS

Familiar 911 upgrade returns with 480hp, a sportier look and rear seat-deleting Lightweight Design option



In a modern car world with as many twists and turns as an ITV soap, it's reassuring to find a constant. The new Porsche 911 GTS is that kind of car. Everything that might be expected of a new GTS is here - those upgrades that have become familiar over the past dozen years of repeat appearances, with one or two extra features that will be welcome additions rather than unexpected add-ons.

Naturally, power is up modestly over the Carrera S, but still with a gap to the GT3. For this 992 version of the GTS, 480hp is the maximum output from the 3.0-litre twin-turbo flat-six, meaning 30hp more than both the old GTS and current Carrera S. Torque is up 14lb ft, to 420lb ft. Pleasingly, both seven-speed manual and eight-speed PDK will be offered; in its most accelerative spec - the four-wheel drive car with dual-clutch - the GTS will reach 62mph in 3.3 seconds. Which is berserk. The manual car features a 10mm shorter lever than standard, said to make shifts that bit slicker, and all models get a sports exhaust.

Chassis changes are as we've come to expect over three generation of 911 GTS, with the Sport chassis fitted as standard - bringing a 10mm drop in ride height, stiffer springs, "adapted" dampers and bars plus a tweak to the PASM control. There's also a recalibration of the PSM stability control "to reflect the overall new dynamic properties", rear helper springs donated by the Turbo, and uprated brakes - now with discs measuring 408mm up front and 380mm on the rear axle.




But, of course, a GTS is about more than just power and chassis changes - it must look the part, too. To that end the latest 992 features the SportDesign front apron, a black satin spoiler lip, unique rear lights, tinted PDLS (Porsche Dynamic Light System) headlights, new 20/21-inch wheels and black badges. The inside features plentiful Alcantara - or Race-Tex in Porsche speak - with a standard GT Sport steering wheel, Sport Chrono and the Sports Seat Plus. Sporty. Interestingly, some sound insulation has been removed for this GTS, said to further enhance the "emotive vocals of the charismatic powertrain". Perhaps just as importantly, this 992 is the first car that Porsche's latest PCM 6.0 will be fitted to, with Android Auto capability, ahead of its rollout across the rest of the 911 range.

One last thing, before getting down to your OPC to gleefully place an order. For the first time, the GTS is now going to be offered with the Lightweight Design package, albeit not until later in 2021. Porsche claims up to 25kg can be shed with the package, bringing CFRP bucket seats as well as both lighter glass and battery; it even goes as far as deleting the rear seats for the full cut-price GT3 vibe. When it becomes available, the Lightweight Design package will also include rear-wheel steer and "additional aerodynamic details". So it might be worth holding off for a few months.

Those that can't hold off for a GTS, however, will be pleased to know that the 992 in all its variants is on sale today, priced from £108,920 for the two-wheel drive Carrera GTS coupe. The four-wheel drive car kicks off at £114,500, with cabrios of both carrying a £9,980 premium. Those after a Targa 4 GTS will be asked for the same as a 4WD drop-top, at £124,300. Pitched (once again) as a model "between the Carrera S and the GT3 in its specification, power and potential", don't be surprised if (once again) the GTS become the pick of the Carrera range. Expect deliveries later in the summer.





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Zenzz

Original Poster:

66 posts

104 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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All previous gen GTSs have had great looking wheels, not any more it would seem.

Gilesos

5 posts

89 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I would agree re the wheels. I have a 991.2 GTS which I feel looks great from every angle - this car looks anonymous.

ellipsis

225 posts

164 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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The wheels on this particular announcement car are not amazing, agreed.

This model now has a higher output than the 2006 997 turbo.

The case for the modern Turbo (awesome though it is) is diminishing in real world terms…

Bencolem

1,013 posts

238 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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I must be getting old blah blah blah but I remember how special the GTS version of the 997 felt. This has none of that for me.

Terminator X

14,921 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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£108k for a standard albeit great looking 911, world gone mad surely. Who is buying all these £100k+ cars?!

TX.

donutskidmark

1,198 posts

152 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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I had a 991.1 GTS….. the most memorable thing about it was the firm awful ride. Couldn’t wait to get rid of it.

C.MW

472 posts

68 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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I want to like it but it looks almost as wide as it is long. I know it is not, but looks that way and that's the problem with 911 aesthetics from the 991 gen on. That and everything turbocharged means the latest 911 I can imagine myself owning would be 997.2 cars.

blue al

922 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Terminator X said:
£108k for a standard albeit great looking 911, world gone mad surely. Who is buying all these £100k+ cars?!

TX.
Some of these https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57575077

RSchneider

215 posts

163 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Nothing wrong with the wheels. Of course it is difficult to make a GTS when the base car is already wide body and 3.0L turbo. Just a stiffer suspension and a bit more boost (yes, there will be some other engine tweaks also) might not be enough. Maybe using the double-wishbone front from the GT3 would have been a good idea ... just a thought.

Fezzaman

552 posts

192 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Agree with the above that this GTS feels more 'meh' than previous. And given the GTS has gone turbo since the 991.2, it's hardly a GT3-lite...

But on the other hand.... 480hp, rear wheel drive, manual gearbox, rear seat delete/lightweight package, turbocharged 911 - in old money that's a late 996 GT2 - would love to know how the 2 compare today especially as they're the same money...

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11775969

Hobo

5,755 posts

245 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Awesome.

I have a deposit down with my OPC for a 'Targa' version, and can't wait for it to appear on the official configurator. I would potentially agree with others that the alloys aren't as nice as those on the 997/991 versions, but that is personal preference.

Dale487

1,334 posts

122 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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So you can buy a car that matches or betters the 959 for £115,000.


sasha320

595 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Terminator X said:
£108k for a standard albeit great looking 911, world gone mad surely. Who is buying all these £100k+ cars?!

TX.
The question is not who is buying ‘all’ these ‘£100k’ cars but how many are being bought.

In relative terms there just aren’t ‘that many’ being bought. The marketing, the shiny showrooms and the fact that one nice car catches your eye every few hundred that you pass on the road gives you the impression that there’s an abundance of them.

The manufacturer’s (especially Porsche) are quite prudent on how many they pre-build and the rest are built to order. So basically a handful of GTS’ will be sold.

However in the case of Porsche; the halo marketing is in full swing with GT3s, GTS etc. so they sell bucketloads of basic spec Caymans, Cayennes and Carreras.

The only exception to this rule appear to be BMW and Land Rover who perpetually seem to over produce M cars and SVRs respectively and then offer cheap lease deals. Maybe their production lines aren’t as agile as others dunno.

nickfrog

20,871 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Terminator X said:
£108k for a standard albeit great looking 911, world gone mad surely. Who is buying all these £100k+ cars?!

TX.
I was going to comment how aggressively priced this GTS seems to be!
I think cars are generally priced to sell, particularly Porsches.

MOOSECORTINA

159 posts

78 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Deleted the rear seat - Put the engine there where it should be

JustGREENI

498 posts

179 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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The rear three quarter shot of these new models are just stunning. Congratulations to all who have one, my ‘career’ choice can barely afford to pay the wifi that allows me to even look at this forum.
I’m grateful for even that.

Now back to the experts….

Gary29

4,131 posts

98 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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JustGREENI said:
Congratulations to all who have one, my ‘career’ choice can barely afford to pay the wifi that allows me to even look at this forum.
I’m grateful for even that.

Now back to the experts….
laugh I'm in the same camp as you!

Great looking car, I don't think 100K is too far reaching if I was in the market for one of these, sadly I'm not, and doubt I ever will be.


991ted

88 posts

139 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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donutskidmark said:
I had a 991.1 GTS….. the most memorable thing about it was the firm awful ride. Couldn’t wait to get rid of it.
I drove the 991.1gts coupe and it was a very memorable ride. absolutely outstanding engine which opened up around 3500revs.
I still get excited by it

Hes A Menthol

43 posts

33 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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JustGREENI said:
The rear three quarter shot of these new models are just stunning. Congratulations to all who have one, my ‘career’ choice can barely afford to pay the wifi that allows me to even look at this forum.
I’m grateful for even that.

Now back to the experts….
Haha, same here.


RudeDog

1,652 posts

173 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Terminator X said:
£108k for a standard albeit great looking 911, world gone mad surely. Who is buying all these £100k+ cars?!

TX.
Its just a figure to work out the finance isn't it?