RE: Rocketing secondhand car prices spell good news...

RE: Rocketing secondhand car prices spell good news...

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Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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PTF said:
I don't get it.

The article starts by saying that used car prices are on the rise (i.e. appreciating)

Then talks about some wisdom that "if it appreciates buy it, if it depreciates lease it".

Then immediately says that it's obviously a good time to lease!!?? Contradictory??
My thoughts exactly, I was just pondering to myself the other day that in the eternal rent or buy debate that those who payed a price not based around the cars anticipated loss of value were sitting pretty.

What a load of

Macron

9,859 posts

166 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Those of you moaning should remember what you pay to use this website. Others are available if you prefer.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Macron said:
Those of you moaning should remember what you pay to use this website. Others are available if you prefer.
Yes Mumsnet, Vagisil.

jzma

62 posts

35 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Sure used car prices are up for now - but for how much longer?
When supply chain issues are resolved, low APRs on PCPs introduced and economy back to normal - values will return to normal.
Quite funny hearing 'my car has only lost x amount' - its all relative

garypotter

1,498 posts

150 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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w8pmc said:
Defo some truth in it, as i sold my 3 & 1/2yr old Golf R Estate in April for North of £26k, having only paid VWFS £20k for it in Oct 2020 at the end of the 3yr lease.

Similar when i sold the GR Yaris after a few weeks of ownership, but that was of course more down to availability given the lengthening lead times.

These in nearly 30yrs of car ownership are the ONLY times I've either made money on a car, or lost only a nominal amount.
After 3 years of financing and £20k ..... bargain

av185

18,502 posts

127 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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jzma said:
Sure used car prices are up for now - but for how much longer?
When supply chain issues are resolved, low APRs on PCPs introduced and economy back to normal - values will return to normal.
Won't happen for some considerable time probably 2023 at least and used values will stay buoyant thereafter for all the reasons already discussed.

9k rpm

520 posts

210 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Just sold my M4 back to BMW for £1,500 more than I bought it from them for in Feb 2020. Market has gone mad.

nunpuncher

3,378 posts

125 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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I leased cars back in 2014 until about about 2018. The deals were amazing back then, you could get a Golf R for under £200pm. The good deals are few and far between now unless you are happy driving any old dross.

Butts1918

84 posts

73 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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I personally believe that Leasing is a better and far cheaper alternative to buying

CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Macron said:
Those of you moaning should remember what you pay to use this website. Others are available if you prefer.
I always thought we were the product not the consumer wink

av185

18,502 posts

127 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Butts1918 said:
I personally believe that Leasing is a better and far cheaper alternative to buying
As ever it all depends on the car.

nunpuncher

3,378 posts

125 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Butts1918 said:
I personally believe that Leasing is a better and far cheaper alternative to buying
Some people also believe the world is flat.

dean1057

63 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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I bought a 18 month old 997.2 GT3 10 years ago and I'm still way up from what I paid. Just saying.

av185

18,502 posts

127 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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dean1057 said:
I bought a 18 month old 997.2 GT3 10 years ago and I'm still way up from what I paid. Just saying.
Smart move but Porsche GTs are a unique and specialised niche market.

blue al

937 posts

159 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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dean1057 said:
I bought a 18 month old 997.2 GT3 10 years ago and I'm still way up from what I paid. Just saying.
I take it that you drive it slightly less than 10,000 per year …?

zebedee

4,589 posts

278 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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w8pmc said:
Defo some truth in it, as i sold my 3 & 1/2yr old Golf R Estate in April for North of £26k, having only paid VWFS £20k for it in Oct 2020 at the end of the 3yr lease.

Similar when i sold the GR Yaris after a few weeks of ownership, but that was of course more down to availability given the lengthening lead times.

These in nearly 30yrs of car ownership are the ONLY times I've either made money on a car, or lost only a nominal amount.
But is that paying £20k on top of your deposit and 3 years of monthly payments? So what did it really cost before selling for £20k? Surely the only people who win with leasing are still the dealers and finance companies aren’t they?

Justin Case

2,195 posts

134 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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I thought that my Man Maths was good, but after reading this article I think that I will give up on it smile

rampageturke

2,622 posts

162 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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av185

18,502 posts

127 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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rampageturke said:
And yet most US dealers anticipate continuing strengthening demand and price rises to continue. Thats why the bell weather of the US car market Car Max is hiring over 5000 extra staff. This is typical.

The UK is a unique and individual market. Julys CAP figures will show similar price increases to May and June continuing the trend.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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av185 said:
dean1057 said:
I bought a 18 month old 997.2 GT3 10 years ago and I'm still way up from what I paid. Just saying.
Smart move but Porsche GTs are a unique and specialised niche market.
I bought a 91 944 turbo 13 years ago, it's now worth over 3 times what I paid for it. Plenty of old pork has done well.