Is everything out of stock?

[mikeyr]

Good to know. I'll call around the car manufacturers and give them the heads up.

In the meantime, with winter coming and glow plugs apparently used for various reasons during the running cycle I'll keep looking for a relay.

[Leptons]

Haltamer said:

mikeyr said:

Mercedes have told me they don't have any (well, exact words were discontinued but that seems bizarre on a fairly modern car!)

That's doubly odd - Don't Mercedes have a tradition / policy of always offering every spare for every model? (Even if it will cost a bomb they'll offer to do it.)

I’m going back two years here but my customer was without her ~2014 Registered S Class for ten months because Mercedes couldn’t get her a DPF anywhere in the world and ended up buying the car off her for a very good price!

[The test driver]

kylos27 said:

A good diesel shouldn’t need glow plugs to start.

• Laughs in modern emissions regulations

[mikeyr]

Leptons said:

I’m going back two years here but my customer was without her ~2014 Registered S Class for ten months because Mercedes couldn’t get her a DPF anywhere in the world and ended up buying the car off her for a very good price!

Not sure I'll convince them to buy mine but I like your thinking!

[mikeyr]

By searching the web for various part numbers I've found two made by Huco (part of Hitachi I believe?). Seem reasonably priced although both match the OE part number A6461532579 - not heard of the brand but to be honest can't be overly fussy right now. Anyone had experience of them (or indeed Trodo)?

https://www.trodo.com/catalogsearch/result?q=64615...

[DannyScene]

mikeyr said:

By searching the web for various part numbers I've found two made by Huco (part of Hitachi I believe?). Seem reasonably priced although both match the OE part number A6461532579 - not heard of the brand but to be honest can't be overly fussy right now. Anyone had experience of them (or indeed Trodo)?

https://www.trodo.com/catalogsearch/result?q=64615...

Thought your Merc dealer may have been fobbing you off RE not available from Merc but I've checked internally and you're right no longer being produced by Mercedes.

Cross referenced your oe number and Beru and Champion both appear to make the part you're after

Beru - GSE110

Champion - CCU110

Can't comment on Huco or Trodo, not dealt with them in the 12 years I've been in parts (mix of ECP and main dealer)

[mikeyr]

Thanks Danny - that's really kind to check. And reassuring to know I wasn't wrong, should I stock up on hundreds of these now and make a fortune?

[mat205125]

Scrump said:

Neither my local MB dealer nor my trusted local MB indie garage seem able to obtain new NOx sensors for my E class. They have been on back order for some time.

Are these brand and model specific, and not available from Bosch or similar?

[Scrump]

mat205125 said:

Scrump said:

Neither my local MB dealer nor my trusted local MB indie garage seem able to obtain new NOx sensors for my E class. They have been on back order for some time.

Are these brand and model specific, and not available from Bosch or similar?

I am not sure, apparently there are quite a few variations of these, some are more readily available than others.

[KTMsm]

The test driver said:

kylos27 said:

A good diesel shouldn’t need glow plugs to start.

• Laughs in modern emissions regulations

OP said his is 12 yrs old, my 3.0 Merc of a similar age came with all the glow plugs snapped by the PO

Having had a quote to fix them and being assured that it would start regardless, I left it

3 yrs on it's still starting, even in winter, yes it takes a few turns when it's cold and yes occasionally the glow plug light comes on but no ill effects as yet

[Tannedbaldhead]

I've been running about in a work's Renault Kangoo van whilst waiting for a sensor for my company Golf.
Once the dealer got the part he lost the staff to fit it due to Covid.
Am not getting car back before New Year. On plus side am quite enjoying being a white van man.

[bungz]

A rep that I deal with now and again was fuming as his diesel VW passat was in the same situation, no parts for it.

Was driving around in some horrific Toyota C-HR which he spent a good 5 minutes ranting about.

[Lester H]

Has anyone begun writing 'The Bumper Book of Covid Excuses' yet?

[mikeyr]

mikeyr said:

By searching the web for various part numbers I've found two made by Huco (part of Hitachi I believe?). Seem reasonably priced although both match the OE part number A6461532579 - not heard of the brand but to be honest can't be overly fussy right now. Anyone had experience of them (or indeed Trodo)?

https://www.trodo.com/catalogsearch/result?q=64615...

Just to finish off the thread - this part was fitted and worked great. Even if i got stung for some import tax.

[TA14]

[Pothole]

Lester H said:

Has anyone begun writing 'The Bumper Book of Covid Excuses' yet?

Hopefully nobody's that fking stupid.

[Billinski]

I've suffered exactly the same issue on my 2007 E220CDI 170hp W211 engine 646.821.

Occasionally the engine would turn over quite a few times on the starter before firing, cold weather: ok when warmed up.

I had a "glow plug controller fault" (Error Code P0670). My independent MB garage checked out the ceramic glow plug & wiring which were all OK, and confirmed by the Star Diagnostics that the controller was at fault.

The original controller is a unit made by Beru, with Mercedes part number A646 153 25 79.

The garage confirmed that Beru have stopped production of this and MB have no "equivalent" recommended. This I find quite incredible.

Anyhow, the correct Beru unit is the Beru GSE110 (not the 140). But alas this can't be bought for love nor money, nobody actually has it in stock.

The nearest equivalent, with correct interfacing connections is the HÜCO 2502195 which I've ordered from Trodo at https://www.trodo.com/relay-glow-plug-system-huco-... Other "compatibles" appear to use different connectors.

Please note that you’ll pay about £55 extra for duty and VAT to DHL.

|I receive this tomorrow and hope to get it fitted next week and will update you all with the results. For sure I’ll keep the old part, just in case!

[jjones]

Billinski said:

I receive this tomorrow and hope to get it fitted next week and will update you all with the results. For sure I’ll keep the old part, just in case!

Thanks for joining and adding this useful info, welcome to the collective.

[Billinski]

Yesterday, 26-Jan-2022 I had the “HÜCO 2502195” glow plug controller fitted by MB-Automotive in Loughborough, fitting cost including fault reset was £40 – very reasonable.

The controller is difficult to access as its well hidden away requiring access from underneath the vehicle removing the under-engine tray.

All works as hoped for.

I need to just check there's no struggling to start in cold temperatures - it always did at less than 5degC.
I kept the old part "just in case"

[Billinski]