RE: Porsche 944 Turbo | Spotted

RE: Porsche 944 Turbo | Spotted

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Trusty Steed

257 posts

165 months

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I think Ill hang on to this MO30 for a bit longer then!

s m

21,533 posts

174 months

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CedricN said:
s m said:
5lab said:
article said:
The Turbo, however, was different. Yes, it was still a four cylinder and no, it wasn't in the same league as a 911,
the 250bhp 944 was slightly ahead of the contemporary 3.2 carrera performance-wise, according to some reports. Definitely in the same league either way
Yes, I remember the 250bhp 944 Turbo being very much in the same league as a few 911s when they were both current cars ( unless the author is alluding to a 4-cylinder engine not being as good as a 6-cylinder )

However I have noticed there is a tendency to “rewrite history” with regards to performance of some old cars or the findings/summaries of journalistic colleagues when cars were reviewed new
Looking at club racing etc lap times times here the old 911s are way behind. Its so easy to make the transaxle cars go fast even with modern standards, especially the turbos of course.

From a us test back in the day
Yes, I remember a few like that even if the ‘944 Turbo wasn’t in the 911’s league’ ?

Weren’t 911s supposed to be a bit flawed dynamically back then too?
Or is the author comparing to modern 911s?

tim-jxv5n

175 posts

67 months

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50 grand!!

Pereldh

295 posts

83 months

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Always liked the 944 from the day it came out. A perfect example of understated aggression, perfect stance & proportions.
Could never get along with the 911SC (964 changed that somewhat) but the 944 Turbo and the 928 S4 seemed like the perfect Porsches at the time.
Needless to say, I'm not a Porschefan anymore. smile

Turbobanana

3,436 posts

172 months

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Jon_S_Rally said:
Don't think I'd own a standard one though. There's just something weird about the fact that they're a four-pot. I usually have very little preference about engine configuration, but these just seem a bit odd.

I remember seeing one in Practical Performance Car some years ago that had a five-pot Audi turbo engine in it. Something like that, with the right set of wheels and a couple of other tweaks and it would be spot-on for me.
So, an Audi ur-quattro then?

Manic Street Sleeper

381 posts

12 months

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F944CHL Guards Red 944S.

I had it from new from John Lamb Porsche in Chesterfield (which morphed into Merlin Porsche, Haydn Road, Nottingham).

Is it still alive ?

Trusty Steed

257 posts

165 months

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Manic Street Sleeper said:
F944CHL Guards Red 944S.

I had it from new from John Lamb Porsche in Chesterfield (which morphed into Merlin Porsche, Haydn Road, Nottingham).

Is it still alive ?
Yes, MOT was on the 12th Nov this year, showing 144320 miles, last V5 change was in Nov 18

Jon951

243 posts

158 months

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I have owned two of these - a very early 220 model and a late 250. Loved them both but they do benefit from a bit of modding. Only sold my 250 in the summer as after many years of 944 Turbo ownership I fancied a change. £50k for this one is absolutely ridiculous but I suppose it only takes one gullible punter to fall for it...

Manic Street Sleeper

381 posts

12 months

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Trusty Steed said:
Manic Street Sleeper said:
F944CHL Guards Red 944S.

I had it from new from John Lamb Porsche in Chesterfield (which morphed into Merlin Porsche, Haydn Road, Nottingham).

Is it still alive ?
Yes, MOT was on the 12th Nov this year, showing 144320 miles, last V5 change was in Nov 18
Thanks for that smile

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Scabutz

3,898 posts

51 months

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About 10 years ago I had this bright idea of buying a 944 Turbo that needed some work and doing it up as a hobby. You could pick one up for about £6k back then. I never did it, now I'm sad.

PomBstard

4,873 posts

213 months

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Hmm, I still have a 944 on my To Buy list, though prefer the S2 over a Turbo - a pristine 1990 S2 in Guards Red with black leather was the one that got away a few years ago. They’re not getting cheaper.

The specialist I use for my 928 loves transaxle Porsches, so there’s always lots to look at, and they race a 944T with the S2 block - about 520bhp in road tune, around 580 on the track.

Stroudy1

44 posts

31 months

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Nice. Always wanted an S2 with the Cup alloys (i think thats what they're called?).

Theres a plum coloured 944 turbo seemingly rotting on a driveway on a country road near me. Its prob an 'investment' car but i'd love to knock the door, find out if it runs and take it off their hands for a steal...

MickyveloceClassic

203 posts

30 months

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A28uyw was my early round-dial 944, bought in 2001.

Loved it’s Harm Lagaay styling, neutral handling, teeny-tiny switches and poppy-up lights.

A lovely machine, sold only to fund a 924 Carrera, which, by comparison was laggy and coarse.

Some contemporary tests involving the 911 and 944 Turbo made it clear that the 911 driver would have to be very skilful to keep up with the 4-cylinder car.

s m

21,533 posts

174 months

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CedricN said:
Looking at club racing etc lap times times here the old 911s are way behind. Its so easy to make the transaxle cars go fast even with modern standards, especially the turbos of course.

From a us test back in the day
CAR magazine reviewed the 944 Turbo vs the 911 Turbo and 928S4 back 30 years ago

Interesting how opinions have changed over the years as always with old cars



For a B-road retro drivers’ car they are still pretty quick

Lowtimer

4,224 posts

139 months

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That they are. I don't hold people up in mine, even though the only "systems" it has are a mechanical limited-slip diff, a fairly old-school ABS system and my right foot.

£50K is an ambitious price for this. Mine's similar age and mileage, extremely fit mechanically and body-wise, great interior, but looks like a car that gets used and is in no way a show queen, and is insured for £25K, which seems about right.

IanWilliams

9 posts

108 months

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Over 25 years ago I had a 1990 250 bhp Turbo model with the bridge spoiler in metallic grey. Fabulous car but it had the Cup suspension, which basically meant no suspension. Apart from an old Morgan I've never driven anything so stiff. This meant at a 'good' speed along my favourite straight section of coastal road the car was literally skipping! As others mentioned the turbo lag was bad but a great learning curve. Sold it for a 1990 911C4. Wish I had them both now.

Stroudy1

44 posts

31 months

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Top notch look of 'intent' on the drivers face of 94 For. Proper bit of Helmsmithing going on there biggrin

Zumbruk

5,847 posts

231 months

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Standard OPC "taking the piss" pricing. No Turbos on AT, but I imagine a real world price would be ~ half that. Maybe £30K for an exceptional one.

Six Potter

5,610 posts

184 months

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I really like the 944, they have a lot of retro charm/appeal now for me. It's one of those where I've dabbled with the idea of a cheap one over the years (non-turbo) but never really dared do it, because money pit.

The turbo obviously appeals the most, but not for me at £50k, lovely as this one looks. This is at that age, mileage and price where it's becoming a museum/investment item rather than something that I would want to drive the wheels off of.

Maldini35

2,832 posts

159 months

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Does seem optimistically priced.

I'm in the process of fixing up an S2.
They are lovely little cars. Not that fast but beautifully balanced.
Good S2's start at c.£13k and go up to £30k.
Decent Turbo's start at around £15k and go up to £40k for the very best.

Either way £50k feels greedy.