Tyre came off, anything I can do?

[ChrisNic]

anonymous said:

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Nuts

[ro250]

All this talk of disclaimers on checking your own wheel nuts. No way would that be legally enforceable as it's wholly unrealistic to expect people to do this. You can't just write a disclaimer to absolve you of liability.

[stevemcs]

ro250 said:

All this talk of disclaimers on checking your own wheel nuts. No way would that be legally enforceable as it's wholly unrealistic to expect people to do this. You can't just write a disclaimer to absolve you of liability.

So how would you do it ? How do you know the owner hasn't removed a wheel after a garage has retorqued the wheels

[David Beer]

I think this post is a robot ! Fizz prove us wrong .

[Smurfsarepeopletoo]

Anywhere I have been that they have removed the wheels, have always told me to go back after 20-30 miles to have them checked, Kik Fit, Formula 1 Autocentre etc.

[Zarco]

Smurfsarepeopletoo said:

Anywhere I have been that they have removed the wheels, have always told me to go back after 20-30 miles to have them checked, Kik Fit, Formula 1 Autocentre etc.

Ever gone back?

[Monkeylegend]

Zarco said:

Smurfsarepeopletoo said:

Anywhere I have been that they have removed the wheels, have always told me to go back after 20-30 miles to have them checked, Kik Fit, Formula 1 Autocentre etc.

Ever gone back?

I think we know the answer

[Stevemr]

I have never been told to recheck the wheel nuts.
At any garage, Halfords or Kwikfit.
Today I had my winter tyres put on at kwikfit.
I have just looked at the receipt, there is no mention about rechecking them.
However since they sent me off with tyre pressures of 39, 38, 38 and 36, according to both the car, and my tyre pressure gauge, when they are supposed to be 34! Tomorrow I will check the wheel nuts.
On my caravan, the wheel nuts are supposed to be checked every trip!

[Monkeylegend]

I would be very surprised if no more than a very small %age of people, ie less then 1%, ever check the tightness of their nuts after a tyre change, brake work or a service.

[Zarco]

I check my nuts every now and again. Particularly after I or someone else has taken the wheels off. Never found them to be loose. I don't use a torque wrench either.

Worst I've had is a tyre pressure adjusted to 16psi during a 2 wheel alignment. Their fancy machine obviously had a dodgy gauge on one corner. I did go back and ask for some more air

[essayer]

Garage left one of my front wheels loose after a recent service. Constant clicking noise that must have been the wheel moving slightly on the disk face. Did each bolt up a quarter turn and it stopped. Shame, as I liked the garage.

[E36Ross]

It happens..... Had a main dealer leave a track rod end nut loose a few months back on a bus!

Checked threads and tightened it myself and took it back to them, Oh yeah sorry about that... Its torqued properly now off you go.

[Jader1973]

Pothole said:

Sheepshanks said:

So if you buy a new car, might have typically 6-7 miles on it, you're supposed to take it back a few miles later to get the nuts/bolts re-torqued?

Why do they take the wheels off at the factory?

Some manufacturers fit a brake dust shield behind the wheel at the factory.

IIRC the wheels have to come off at dealer PDI to remove them.

[Powerfully Built Company Directors Secretary]

I've had a similar incident before, although the wheel did not come off thankfully. I'd just had new front tyres fitted to my Fiancée's van by a mobile tyre fitter (similar to Rational Triers...). The wheel bolts came loose on the journey from Sussex to Worcester. There was a loudish knocking but, having never towed a car trailer before, we put it down to that being unladen.

Arrived to find only two of the wheel bolts in, and they were both very loose. The centre cap and three bolts are probably somewhere on the A34.

The rim was damaged and bolt holes elongated. The company, to their credit, paid for a brand new rim (£400!), new wheel bolts and a new locking wheel bolt set.

They did not have a disclaimer about rechecking wheel bolts..

[21st Century Man]

Why are people talking about torquing wheel nuts and wheels coming off? The OP said the tyre came off, which sounds implausible to me unless they drove on a flat for some distance, in which case it's driver error, I can't see how it's even remotely possible for a tyre coming off to be fitter error?

[surveyor]

21st Century Man said:

Why are people talking about torquing wheel nuts and wheels coming off? The OP said the tyre came off, which sounds implausible to me unless they drove on a flat for some distance, in which case it's driver error, I can't see how it's even remotely possible for a tyre coming off to be fitter error?

I think we are assuming that it’s the wheel and not the tyre.

This does remind me of a bksing from my missus years after changing a flat for putting the flat tyre in her boot and not the bin. I had to point out that it was still attached to her actual wheel.

[Zarco]

surveyor said:

This does remind me of a bksing from my missus years after changing a flat for putting the flat tyre in her boot and not the bin. I had to point out that it was still attached to her actual wheel.

[Monkeylegend]

surveyor said:

21st Century Man said:

Why are people talking about torquing wheel nuts and wheels coming off? The OP said the tyre came off, which sounds implausible to me unless they drove on a flat for some distance, in which case it's driver error, I can't see how it's even remotely possible for a tyre coming off to be fitter error?

I think we are assuming that it’s the wheel and not the tyre.

This does remind me of a bksing from my missus years after changing a flat for putting the flat tyre in her boot and not the bin. I had to point out that it was still attached to her actual wheel.

I think most are assuming the wheel and tyre came off. It would be almost impossible for the wheel to come off leaving the tyre on the car.

[Sheepshanks]

Powerfully Built Company Directors Secretary said:

.. new front tyres fitted to my Fiancée's van by a mobile tyre fitter (similar to Rational Triers...)
......

They did not have a disclaimer about rechecking wheel bolts..

That's an interesting angle - if they're fitted by a mobile then the "bring it back to have them rechecked" argument goes out of the window.

If t's vital that it's done they should make a follow-up visit to come back and recheck them.

[21st Century Man]

21st Century Man said:

I can't see how it's even remotely possible for a tyre coming off to be fitter error?

Unless it's a duff new valve and/or the rim wasn't cleaned up and there's been a leak, but it's still driver error for driving on a flat, even if the chain of events takes it back to the fitter.