RE: RPM Technik 718 Cayman GT4 MR | PH Review

[Billy_Whizzzz]

samoht said:

Another top contribution to the collection of homonym errors here:

"There are cars that should be quiet and serine" - serene

"Your left with a crisper, richer call" - You're

"when you ring its neck" - wring



On the car, the factory RS is going to have to stay very expensive for a very long time for this to make any kind of sense.

Quite. Is Howell the most illiterate ‘writer’ on PH? My hunch is he may have been better at selling cars. But then PHers seem not to care much about grammar or spelling, thinking it ‘elitist’ or ‘snobbish’ that people should care about such things.

[GTRene]

For that kind of money, my money would go to a DeMan motorsport upgrade incl gearbox.

560 NA hp and better gearing and car.

https://demanmotorsport.com/4-5l-cayman/

hope they bring that also to Europa.

[Sandpit Steve]

GTRene said:

For that kind of money, my money would go to a DeMan motorsport upgrade incl gearbox.

560 NA hp and better gearing and car.

https://demanmotorsport.com/4-5l-cayman/

hope they bring that also to Europa.

Yep, been seriously looking at picking up a cheap-ish well-used 981 GT4, and shipping the engine and gearbox to DeMan for the full works. They’ve done quite a few of them now, and they seem to be reliable in use.

[Twinfan]

barchetta_boy said:

200Plus Club said:

It's no show stopper having the long gearing. Plenty of torque in 3rd and 4th so you don't have to wring it out all the time.

I think that misses the point completely. It's not about having to rev it out it's about being able to rev it out without going silly speeds. I have the 718 GTS which is the same drivetrain as the GT4 and I have booked in for the short gears at RPM. The car makes no sense as it is, you may as well move the red line down from 7750 to 6000.

If you want to rev it out without going silly speeds you've bought the wrong car. Why anyone buys a modern 420bhp car expecting to be able to thrash the nuts off it everywhere is beyond me.

Do what I do - take it on track and enjoy it there several times a year.

[Olivera]

Twinfan said:

If you want to rev it out without going silly speeds you've bought the wrong car. Why anyone buys a modern 420bhp car expecting to be able to thrash the nuts off it everywhere is beyond me.

Do what I do - take it on track and enjoy it there several times a year.

Arguably the stock GT4 gearing is bad even on track. On some short UK tracks you'll be lucky to get out of 3rd, and 4th goes to 142mph. So you'll be using at best 3 gears out of a six speed box.

[Terminator X]

Great article and what a car, glad it exists in 2022. The cost though still unobtainable for most excluding the PH many powerfully built cash rich company directors of course.

TX.

[ate one too]

Terminator X said:

Great article and what a car, glad it exists in 2022. The cost though still unobtainable for most excluding the PH many powerfully built cash rich company directors of course.

TX.

... who can "claim the VAT back "

[pmanson]

Saw this on the road earlier today. It certainly had presence

[astonman]

Any late model TVR in good condition will provide much more Fun.

[Red 5]

astonman said:

Any late model TVR in good condition will provide much more Fun.

Hahahaha good luck with that hahahaha

This is the Porsche factory racing team developed chassis / aero kit developed for those who want to fully optimise a CAYMAN retaining full Porsche factory warranty. (Not buy a different car full of other compromises)
The usual “For that I could have bought” crowd never understand!

My E82 135i had £10k worth of of modifications. “Could have bought an M3 for that mate blah blah”
The car was WAY more capable and faster than a standard M3. Everywhere.
I didn’t want a bigger boaty thing that would just frustrate at a higher price point!

[GTRene]

Sandpit Steve said:

GTRene said:

For that kind of money, my money would go to a DeMan motorsport upgrade incl gearbox.

560 NA hp and better gearing and car.

https://demanmotorsport.com/4-5l-cayman/

hope they bring that also to Europa.

Yep, been seriously looking at picking up a cheap-ish well-used 981 GT4, and shipping the engine and gearbox to DeMan for the full works. They’ve done quite a few of them now, and they seem to be reliable in use.

hats off to you Looked yesterday on a forum about those, indeed already quite a few DeMan GT4 on the road, think they are doing a good job transforming the GT4 into even more fun.

[jason61c]

Sandpit Steve said:

GTRene said:

For that kind of money, my money would go to a DeMan motorsport upgrade incl gearbox.

560 NA hp and better gearing and car.

https://demanmotorsport.com/4-5l-cayman/

hope they bring that also to Europa.

Yep, been seriously looking at picking up a cheap-ish well-used 981 GT4, and shipping the engine and gearbox to DeMan for the full works. They’ve done quite a few of them now, and they seem to be reliable in use.

Just shows how far away RPM Technik is. the CWP cost is a complete joke. Look at what they cost for every other car.

[Jon_S_Rally]

Elmariachi said:

Quite an achievement, nearly £50k to make a car look cheap.

I don't think you understand marketing. This is the demo car. They want it to stand out and cause a stir. You commenting on it shows that it's done its job.

jason61c said:

Just shows how far away RPM Technik is. the CWP cost is a complete joke. Look at what they cost for every other car.

I thought exactly the same. For any other car, it would be about £1k. I understand that they will only sell in small numbers, but £5k is an obscene amount of money for a CWP.

[jason61c]

Jon_S_Rally said:

I thought exactly the same. For any other car, it would be about £1k. I understand that they will only sell in small numbers, but £5k is an obscene amount of money for a CWP.

I bet you'd get a bespoke one made for under £2k.

Get a few made and you're around £1000.

[Twinfan]

Olivera said:

Arguably the stock GT4 gearing is bad even on track. On some short UK tracks you'll be lucky to get out of 3rd, and 4th goes to 142mph. So you'll be using at best 3 gears out of a six speed box.

First gear can be used on UK roads, 5th and 6th on the Autobahn.

If you want a specialist car, buy a specialist car. The GT4 is an all rounder...

[big_rob_sydney]

Twinfan said:

Olivera said:

Arguably the stock GT4 gearing is bad even on track. On some short UK tracks you'll be lucky to get out of 3rd, and 4th goes to 142mph. So you'll be using at best 3 gears out of a six speed box.

First gear can be used on UK roads, 5th and 6th on the Autobahn.

If you want a specialist car, buy a specialist car. The GT4 is an all rounder...

Strange; I thought the base car was the all-rounder, and the GTx was meant to be sporty? What was I thinking...

[SidewaysSi]

Twinfan said:

Olivera said:

Arguably the stock GT4 gearing is bad even on track. On some short UK tracks you'll be lucky to get out of 3rd, and 4th goes to 142mph. So you'll be using at best 3 gears out of a six speed box.

First gear can be used on UK roads, 5th and 6th on the Autobahn.

If you want a specialist car, buy a specialist car. The GT4 is an all rounder...

Phew, first gear can be used on the road.. yippee.

[pcrawf]

John Howell said:

All points noted and now corrected. Thanks for highlighting them. We're a small team working flat out and, while we always aim to avoid mistakes, we appreciate you pointing out any errors that creep in. Hopefully the content as a whole keeps you coming back.

wasn't going to mention it but in that case I give you: "burst of revs that make heel-and-toe shifts lightening quick".

Lightening = getting less heavy
Lightning = flashy sky stuff that's over very quickly

I see that one crop up a lot in PH articles.

Nice review on the whole, and I like the car, colour scheme 'n' all.

[Oz83]

Twinfan said:

First gear can be used on UK roads, 5th and 6th on the Autobahn.

If you want a specialist car, buy a specialist car. The GT4 is an all rounder...

Totally agree. Jack of all trades...

So much so I just put Pilot Sport 4s on mine, mainly so I can enjoy it without having to check the weather report. I do a couple of track days a year but I'm not chasing lap times, so the slower tyres will do just fine.

The gearing could really be improved though. I looked at the RPM CWP last year, and this review (and Catchpoles) have renewed my interest. Some here are saying that £6k is too much money, but it doesn't seem too bad if it cures the one fundamental flaw of the GT4. I'd like to know where you can get one made for the £2K though.

[Jon_S_Rally]

jason61c said:

I bet you'd get a bespoke one made for under £2k.

Get a few made and you're around £1000.

Agreed. I'm surprised one of the gear manufacturers hasn't done it. That being said, it could well be one of them that's done this, but are just selling it through RPM to maximise profit.

Twinfan said:

First gear can be used on UK roads, 5th and 6th on the Autobahn.

If you want a specialist car, buy a specialist car. The GT4 is an all rounder...

Or, buy a GT4 and modify it to match your personal preference.

Oz83 said:

Totally agree. Jack of all trades...

So much so I just put Pilot Sport 4s on mine, mainly so I can enjoy it without having to check the weather report. I do a couple of track days a year but I'm not chasing lap times, so the slower tyres will do just fine.

The gearing could really be improved though. I looked at the RPM CWP last year, and this review (and Catchpoles) have renewed my interest. Some here are saying that £6k is too much money, but it doesn't seem too bad if it cures the one fundamental flaw of the GT4. I'd like to know where you can get one made for the £2K though.

£6k is a huge amount of money for what is basically two cogs. It's only £2K less than a Dacia Sandero, which comes with whole box full of cogs, along with an engine, body shell, wiring loom, interior, wheels, suspension etc etc. Massive Porsche tax being applied there, without a doubt.

You could try someone like Gripper or MFactory. If there is a market, they might be interested in producing one.