RE: All-new Range Rover Sport revealed

[Wab1974uk]

I actually don't mind the way it looks. Nice looking SUV.

However, I hate all these digital displays. Ok, have a big infotainment screen, but what's wrong with analogue dials? Less to go wrong in the future.

The two biggest issues for me are

A) the weight of the thing. 2.7 Tonnes for the PHEV version !!!!

B) the price. Starting from £80,000. I've just specced a P400. Even going quite light on options (that many should be standard for the price) I get one to £100,226. That's bonkers.

[samjlevy]

Deranged Rover said:

If you're referring to the SVR version, then i suspect the BMW V8 would be a way to see out ICE whilst being disappointed by both the noise and power delivery, plus with the ever-present spectre of epic cooling system borkage.

Bring back the supercharged 5.0!

Never had any issues with cooling system faults in my F90 M5 and I can't say I've seen any that have. Also the power delivery is fantastic for a big 4.4L Turbo engine, one of the best out there. The noise is a bit crap, mine is mapped with the primary DP changed for catless and sounds OK, I'm sure they could make it sound better. Personally I think that engine would work very well in an SVR.

[Muddle238]

Side profile looks good. It actually looks a lot like the outgoing RRS, JLR I think have nailed the "sleek SUV" profile with this, the Velar and F-Pace.

However, I can't get my head around the front; the headlights look disproportionately thin for the size of the car, as such there's a large area of plain bodywork, then another grille, then more bodywork with the plate mounted on it, then yet another grille, then the lower bodywork/spoiler. It seems like they spent so much time slimming down the headlights, they forgot that they need to fill the rest of the front with something, hence a myriad of grilles and body. And the number plate positioning definitely looks like an after thought; they've just stuck it to the first bit of bodywork they've found.

The rear I am undecided on. The new FFRR rear is excellent in my opinion, I've seen a couple in the flesh and they're smart looking things. This new RRS I'm not sure of, it seems to suffer a similar issue to the front; very slim lights that have left a large area of plain bodywork to "fill the space". It reminds me of the rear three-quarter view of a Disco 5; quite a lot of bodywork to fill the void between the outer edges of the vehicle.

I'll have to wait until I spot one in the flesh before deciding whether I like it or not...

[JackJarvis]

I really like it, mostly because it seems to anger so many narrow minded, bitter old men on the internet. Very satisfying.

[cidered77]

Wab1974uk said:

I actually don't mind the way it looks. Nice looking SUV.

However, I hate all these digital displays. Ok, have a big infotainment screen, but what's wrong with analogue dials? Less to go wrong in the future.

The two biggest issues for me are

A) the weight of the thing. 2.7 Tonnes for the PHEV version !!!!

B) the price. Starting from £80,000. I've just specced a P400. Even going quite light on options (that many should be standard for the price) I get one to £100,226. That's bonkers.

with the chip shortage JLR have started downgrading orders to move back to analogue dials vs. full digitals - judging by reactions on the various Defender owners groups i'm on this makes new owners/those on the waiting list very angry indeed.

Ultimately, it's for the first buyer - not the 5th. average lifespan of a car in the UK is 12 years - and its certainly not beyond our technical reach to keep a screen like that running for even twice that period. Whether it's within JLRs reach is another matter though.....

[Mikebentley]

I went to the dealer in Cheltenham today to chase my Defender order (no news there) and saw the new FFRR. It is very nice. Later as I was driving through Stowe I was passed by a white one of these new RRS wearing trade plates. I’m not normally a fan of white but it looked bloody gorgeous.

PS I have had a full on drug dealer/WAG spec black L494 for the last 12 months. Been absolutely fantastic 64 plate that went through its MOT yesterday with zero advisories and the MOT tester even commented on it exceptional condition. For those that are interested no finance either.

[Cups Renault]

nickfrog said:

Cups Renault said:

You peaked on even my efforts.
Chuck in the high street syringe face jobs fuelled by celebrity worship and we have closed the loop on the range rover target market.

The ratio of house cost to car tipping the 0.75:1 once we take into account some local housing authority help.


If this stagflationary recession does anything.....

Definitely an indication of where it's at where you live or of the size of the chip on your shoulder. Or both!

Or could be that I find it amusing that people spaff loads of money on PCP and associated interest payments, whilst living in rabbit hutches. I know 3 examples of that personally.

Can I afford to drop £1k a week on a PCP, certainly and also own a listed property (just FYI that one for you). I'd drop it on a car with a soul, that meant more than feeding my ego via a chintzy status symbol. Of a brand that increasingly just says 'try hard and lord it'

Personal freedom I here your whiney, 'how dare he say that without accusing him of being jealous response', yeah the freedom to splurge money they ain't got on following celebrity, vacuous culture.

Hope you enjoy some of your taxes going to bail out a fair few feckless souls who get rinsed over the next few years when stagflation necessitates many of these PCPers and loan companies a bail out.


But yeah I've got a chip on me shoulder....

[simon-tigjs]

Coming to block up a lane near Salcombe, just when you were trying to get to your Twisted RIB

[Harry Flashman]

They really do a good looking 4x4, don't they? Makes all the Maserati/Aston et al rivals look like absolute clunkers.

[A.J.M]

ecs0set said:

A.J.M said:

Is bragging about new car ratio to income or whatever the new PH stair dominating metric of bellendry?

Appears so. Why was I not informed about this? Here am I paying £1500 per month for a brand-new, all-black RRS and giving it the full white-socked Mr. Miyagi every time I get out and it turns out all I needed was to buy a £1500 Fiesta and a T-shirt with "50:1" written on it!

This place does seem to attract the weapons grade bellends at times. Shame really.
Bragging about stuff that 99.99999% of folk frankly don’t fking care about.

May go play on the configurator and see what I can make up.

[samjlevy]

Cups Renault said:

Or could be that I find it amusing that people spaff loads of money on PCP and associated interest payments, whilst living in rabbit hutches. I know 3 examples of that personally.

Can I afford to drop £1k a week on a PCP, certainly and also own a listed property (just FYI that one for you). I'd drop it on a car with a soul, that meant more than feeding my ego via a chintzy status symbol. Of a brand that increasingly just says 'try hard and lord it'

Personal freedom I here your whiney, 'how dare he say that without accusing him of being jealous response', yeah the freedom to splurge money they ain't got on following celebrity, vacuous culture.

Hope you enjoy some of your taxes going to bail out a fair few feckless souls who get rinsed over the next few years when stagflation necessitates many of these PCPers and loan companies a bail out.


But yeah I've got a chip on me shoulder....

Maybe some people would prefer to drive a nice car than live in a big house?

I live in a normal sized apartment, wasn't particularly expensive, the area is nice and it's fine for me and the wife.

I have a 720s, M5 and 320i in the car park, the value of all 3 is probably the same as the property. Only the M5 is on PCP and that's because the deal was too good to turn down, the McLaren was bought outright and the 320i is a lease through the business.

I could afford to live in a big house, but don't really see the point until I have kids so I'll enjoy the nice cars until that time comes.

Each to there own, doesn't bother me how other people spend their own money either.

[Wonderman]

Awaiting the EV version as right size, and hopefully set for wafting would encourage me back to the RRS fold

[nickfrog]

Cups Renault said:

But yeah I've got a chip on me shoulder....

Yes and even bigger than I thought. The thread is just about a car.

[Mikebentley]

I started typing a reply to all the wannabe jealous and hippy dippy end of the earth crap being spouted. Let’s just talk about the car not it’s potential owners lifestyle choices. I agree with Harry that you have to credit JLR with making great looking cars.

[Milemuncher]

Actually quite like this having historically much preferred the FFRR to the RRS. Will be interesting to see it in the metal.

[Cold]

Mikebentley said:

I agree with Harry that you have to credit JLR with making great looking cars.

Yep. I feel the late L494s were starting to look a touch shouty, especially head-on with the styling of the grille openings around the front bumper.

This new car has really softened how it looks but still retains familiar features that make it recognisable without needing to study the badge.

[Mikebentley]

Cold said:

Mikebentley said:

I agree with Harry that you have to credit JLR with making great looking cars.

Yep. I feel the late L494s were starting to look a touch shouty, especially head-on with the styling of the grille openings around the front bumper.

This new car has really softened how it looks but still retains familiar features that make it recognisable without needing to study the badge.

I think this always happens near the end of a run when they’ve thrown everything at a model over 9yrs. Stuff and styling cues that only used to be available on only the top model eventually feature across the range to try and keep it fresh. I prefer my earlier L494 to some of the last ones.

[sconzo]

Muddle238 said:

And the number plate positioning definitely looks like an after thought; they've just stuck it to the first bit of bodywork they've found.

Couldn't agree more.

With the small main grille, it makes the plate positioning look too low even although it's actually not. I'm sure it would look better if located on the bumper directly below that grille.

[rallycross]

2 things you can always guarantee about any new Range Rover

1. It’s the Number 1 choice for wkers
2. It’s going to be a disaster For poor reliability and expensive and slow to fix warranty claims.

In summary’ always driven badly ( when it’s working )

[VS02]

I don’t like that lower grill thing, it would have looked a lot better with that not being there and the plate being moved upwards to fill that space