RE: All-new Range Rover Sport revealed

RE: All-new Range Rover Sport revealed

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nickfrog

16,783 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th May
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notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.

On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.

Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.

It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.

Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.

We, and our kids, deserve better.
Stop having kids if you really care about sustainability.

jimmytheone

587 posts

195 months

Tuesday 10th May
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"Sport" laugh

witten

132 posts

25 months

Tuesday 10th May
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notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.

On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.

Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.

It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.

Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.

We, and our kids, deserve better.
Personally I lived in the East side of the Cotswolds and don't see them all that often.

And on the rest - yes they can but no one would buy them. The purpose of any business is to make money by developing a product that sells.

BrabusMog

18,615 posts

163 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Not too sure about the rear but I won’t be looking at that when I’m in the car.

Debaser

4,417 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th May
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notread said:
We, and our kids, deserve better.
rofl

Bungleaio

6,018 posts

179 months

Tuesday 10th May
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I love that. Still miss my original supercharged sport even though it tried to bankrupt me at every oppertunity.

Spleen

4,658 posts

98 months

Tuesday 10th May
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The only thing memorable from that short film were the monstrous gondolas on McGovern's paws, what was he thinking? Truly hilarious.

In all seriousness, nice looking piece of kit. I wonder if I can persuade the trout to chop hers in for a new one...

Dg504

133 posts

140 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Surely this is a great example of tax needing to be based on weight?

griffsomething

154 posts

138 months

Tuesday 10th May
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originals said:
Prefer that to the FFRR.

Just don't spec it in black/black wheels.
99% will be sadly. I live in Cheshire and it seems like every other car you see is a black leather, black paint Range Rover.

Lovely cars to ride about in but wish the owners would have a little more imagination when choosing colours.

T1berious

1,819 posts

132 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Dg504 said:
Surely this is a great example of tax needing to be based on weight?
Erm EV's weigh considerably more than their ICE counterparts....

Not sure I'd want to be taxed on a zero emissions vehicle the same as a Range Rover sport due to its weight.

Just saying.

NomduJour

15,750 posts

236 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Dg504 said:
Surely this is a great example of tax needing to be based on weight?
Why?

Max_Torque

17,652 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Whilst this car is critical for the continued existance of JLR i do wonder for how long these massive oversized but suprisingly cramped inside SUV 4x4 things will be in fashion? I can't help thinking that as energy costs and environmental pressures continue to build they may become as socially un-acceptable as smoking?

Even the hybrid is hugely consumptive, 50 miles from nearly 40 kWh is catastrophic consumption!

ecs0set

2,313 posts

261 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Front looks pretty close to the facelift L494. Rear looks a bit close to the Evoque.

No mention of the 5+2 seating option.

Also, the top petrol (in the reveal vid) did not sound anywhere near as evil as the old SVR frown

And the top Meridian stereo has LESS wattage (*) eek

Not seeing much that would tempt me out of my 2014 model.

(*) Wattage does not equal sound level or quality. Yeah thanks, the audiophile forum is that way --> smile

ajap1979

5,735 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Dg504 said:
Surely this is a great example of tax needing to be based on weight?
As opposed to emissions?

nickfrog

16,783 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Dg504 said:
Surely this is a great example of tax needing to be based on weight?
It is. The heavier the more Co2 so the higher the tax.

fantheman80

627 posts

26 months

Tuesday 10th May
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Not sure about the pinched back but rest is fantastic

But I’ve still got the hump on these renders with virtual wheel spacers giving them ‘stance’. Why the fk can’t manufacturers take a decent photo of the real thing anymore

Shaw Tarse

30,814 posts

180 months

Tuesday 10th May
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No thanks.

NJJ

348 posts

57 months

Tuesday 10th May
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The V8 version would be a fine way to celebrate and see out the end days of ICE.

Will be ordered like hot cakes but not necessarily sold like them thanks to the ongoing supply issues. Should at least give JLR time to build them properly though!

NomduJour

15,750 posts

236 months

Tuesday 10th May
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nickfrog said:
Dg504 said:
Surely this is a great example of tax needing to be based on weight?
It is. The heavier the more Co2 so the higher the tax.
It isn’t. What if my usage of a 2.6 tonne hybrid rarely starts its petrol engine?

Wills2

19,387 posts

152 months

Tuesday 10th May
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notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.

On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.

Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.

It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.

Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.

We, and our kids, deserve better.
Dude it's just a car...