RE: All-new Range Rover Sport revealed
Discussion
notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.
On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.
Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.
It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.
Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.
We, and our kids, deserve better.
Stop having kids if you really care about sustainability. On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.
Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.
It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.
Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.
We, and our kids, deserve better.
notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.
On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.
Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.
It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.
Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.
We, and our kids, deserve better.
Personally I lived in the East side of the Cotswolds and don't see them all that often.On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.
Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.
It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.
Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.
We, and our kids, deserve better.
And on the rest - yes they can but no one would buy them. The purpose of any business is to make money by developing a product that sells.
originals said:
Prefer that to the FFRR.
Just don't spec it in black/black wheels.
99% will be sadly. I live in Cheshire and it seems like every other car you see is a black leather, black paint Range Rover. Just don't spec it in black/black wheels.
Lovely cars to ride about in but wish the owners would have a little more imagination when choosing colours.
Whilst this car is critical for the continued existance of JLR i do wonder for how long these massive oversized but suprisingly cramped inside SUV 4x4 things will be in fashion? I can't help thinking that as energy costs and environmental pressures continue to build they may become as socially un-acceptable as smoking?
Even the hybrid is hugely consumptive, 50 miles from nearly 40 kWh is catastrophic consumption!
Even the hybrid is hugely consumptive, 50 miles from nearly 40 kWh is catastrophic consumption!
Front looks pretty close to the facelift L494. Rear looks a bit close to the Evoque.
No mention of the 5+2 seating option.
Also, the top petrol (in the reveal vid) did not sound anywhere near as evil as the old SVR
And the top Meridian stereo has LESS wattage (*)
Not seeing much that would tempt me out of my 2014 model.
(*) Wattage does not equal sound level or quality. Yeah thanks, the audiophile forum is that way -->
No mention of the 5+2 seating option.
Also, the top petrol (in the reveal vid) did not sound anywhere near as evil as the old SVR
And the top Meridian stereo has LESS wattage (*)
Not seeing much that would tempt me out of my 2014 model.
(*) Wattage does not equal sound level or quality. Yeah thanks, the audiophile forum is that way -->
notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.
On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.
Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.
It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.
Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.
We, and our kids, deserve better.
Dude it's just a car...On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.
Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.
It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.
Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.
We, and our kids, deserve better.
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