Large capacity engines. Very sought after or hot potato?

[TeaVR]

I know........crystal ball stuff, but which way do you think it will go?

In the future (say next 5-10 years), will large capacity engined cars (V8s, V10s, etc) be very much sought after, or will they become pretty much worthless?

My personal thoughts are that the very special stuff will be collected and hoarded, but the mass produced large capacity engined cars will devalue to the point that they become hot potatoes.

Thoughts?

Edited by TeaVR on Sunday 15th May 13:38

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

I'd say any kind of interesting ICE car will be sought after and hold unusually high residue values long after 2030.
So long as there is fuel, a performance car will have value.

It'll be taxed to buggery though.

[DodgyGeezer]

the issue is what cars will become sought after? Who'd have thought Ford Escorts could reach the prices they are currently doing? Does the halo model become more desirable or does a (so called) special or limited edition? Figure that out and you could be on your way to a fortune

[GT9]

How sought after the engine is probably depend on what sort of aspiration it has....sort of.

[cerb4.5lee]

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

It'll be taxed to buggery though.

Agree with this. I only have a 3.7 litre V6 in the 370Z, and that already costs £630 a year to tax.

[The spinner of plates]

I think weekender / hobby stuff ie Porsche Boxster 4.0 manual - yes.

Big engined everyday stuff ie auto C63 / RS6 estate just isn’t emotive enough to run as a weekender for most and will be taxed to the heavens to run daily - hot potato.

We all pay for our fun, but can you imagine going to the garage at 5am Sunday morning to indulge in your silly expensive hobby and be greeted with a lump of fast but very utilitarian shaped car designed to be as easy to drive as possible? Personally I can’t.

But I’m wrong more often than I’m right

[Lester H]

Both. (Sorry about that on the fence reply) but large capacity middle aged car with high tax will depreciate . We read about these regularly on Shed of the Week. Also guzzlers in the Spotted articles However, as usual seriously rich punters will.he immune from all this and the market for the real posh stuff (as opposed to an XJs or Carlton 3litre ) will continue

Edited by Lester H on Sunday 15th May 14:15

[Brooksay]

cerb4.5lee said:

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

It'll be taxed to buggery though.

Agree with this. I only have a 3.7 litre V6 in the 370Z, and that already costs £630 a year to tax.

fk me! £15 a week without even starting the engine!

[georgeyboy12345]

At it’s most basic level, it boils down to supply and demand.

The supply of them will be very low; demand amongst enthusiasts will be high, so I predict prices will end up very high.

[TeaVR]

georgeyboy12345 said:

At it’s most basic level, it boils down to supply and demand.

The supply of them will be very low; demand amongst enthusiasts will be high, so I predict prices will end up very high.

Agree on supply and demand. Trouble is that there are a shed load of V8s etc already out there. I can’t imagine there’ll be that much demand to outstrip supply, but I could be wrong……..

[AndySheff]

I've just partially opted out. Just sold my Challenger Hellcat. But this was mostly due to me wanting to buy some property in Spain, rather than environmental reasons. Plus I sold it for more or less what I bought it for over 4 years ago. Planning on keeping my Mustang GT Cab as long as I can anyway.

[Olivergt]

Brooksay said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

It'll be taxed to buggery though.

Agree with this. I only have a 3.7 litre V6 in the 370Z, and that already costs £630 a year to tax.

fk me! £15 a week without even starting the engine!

Don't move to Ireland then, if it's pre 2008 that would be 1800 euro please. Post 2008, anything over 230g (I think) CO2 is 2,300 euro.

My 325i was 1050 euro a year road tax.

I swapped it for something over 30 yrs old as only 56 euro tax for a classic.

[Brett748]

I think anything with a special engine will keep value.

I own a fairly standard German saloon but it has a 6.2 hand built V8. It is a work of art and to me will always be valuable.

[anonymous-user]

So let's say a w204 C63 facelift model (2011+).

I seen one the other day, in my ideal colour/spec. (Performance Pack Plus + LSD). Absolutely bang on what I would go for. Had 86k miles on it priced at £20,500.

I wouldn't buy now, because looking to purchase a home first in the next 12/18 months.

I was thinking that's only gonna get cheaper because it's a mass produced C class at the end of the day, on 86k. Surely in 18months that car would be significantly cheaper? (£16/17k?), Or would it?

[ChemicalChaos]

An interesting conundrum and I can see both points.
A Viper or TVR etc I suspect will always be special and valuable, but I had a hell of a time trying to move on my 5.7 Hemi Jeep post lockdown!

[Cascade360]

ChemicalChaos said:

An interesting conundrum and I can see both points.
A Viper or TVR etc I suspect will always be special and valuable, but I had a hell of a time trying to move on my 5.7 Hemi Jeep post lockdown!

TVRs seem to have steadfastly avoided the crazy price rises in the last year or so; I bought my 2001 Mk1 Tuscan with 65k miles last March for 28k (albeit from a specialist so top money) and recently someone on the FB page couldn't sell a similar, 75k miles and ostensibly very nice one for 23k! Suspect the mileage puts people off, but it has had an engine rebuild at the top guy so no idea! Not sure why TVRs (aside from the Sagaris) seem to refuse to appreciate but they do.

[TeaVR]

I’d be interested to hear from the younger generation. I’m
50 now, but back in my twenties, I was only really interested in the fastest car I could buy.

If you apply that to the current, 20-30 brigade, surely they’ll be tempted to buy forced induction or even electric. So, who’s going be in a rush to buy old school large capacity engined cars?

[deckster]

Interesting and desirable cars will continue to be interesting and desirable.

Cars which are only interesting because somebody's shoved a massive engine in them will be regarded as expensive white elephants.

[DodgyGeezer]

Brooksay said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

It'll be taxed to buggery though.

Agree with this. I only have a 3.7 litre V6 in the 370Z, and that already costs £630 a year to tax.

fk me! £15 a week without even starting the engine!

Meh - I don't drink or smoke (or watch football, live or sky) and just about anything interesting means you've got to pay a chunk of tax... I'm not saying I'd not prefer it cheaper but (for me) that puts it in perspective

[J4CKO]

Nah, when Teslas etc get cheap and numerous enough, most wont be arsed so the supply will outstrip demand for most petrol stuff.

Especially as Petrol keeps climbing, there are plenty of C63s etc to supply enthusiast demand, will have to be more specialist than that to avoid value dropping.

People will try EVs and realise they cant be bothered with the expense and faffing with an ICE, especially as EVs advance, never mind £600 odd ved and struggling to get fuel as petrol stations close down.

ICE enthusiasts will be dying off, anyone under 20 now may never drive an ICE car.

We are still in a weird position due to Covid and Putin with second hand car prices, the cost of living increases havent really taken hold but can feel it coming in, I spent £64 filling a sodding Fiesta, nobody is going to want to put £100 in a V8 Merc to do 200 odd miles.