RE: 2023 BMW XM prototype | PH Review
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I guess this will be the platform for the next RR suv too ? And credit to the BMW design team, they've already made it look so hideous the RR team can take the afternoon off.
I do think that rather than emissions / tech / speed regs, a lot of benefit could come from just limiting max unladen weights that can be sold as a car.
I do think that rather than emissions / tech / speed regs, a lot of benefit could come from just limiting max unladen weights that can be sold as a car.
flukey5 said:
In a world where we're becoming increasingly conscious of over-use and waste, cars like this feel even more excessive and crass than they otherwise would. Being a hybrid doesn't change the fact it's probably close to a 3 tonne glut of excess, with a coefficient of drag comparable to a bulldozer.
I hope eventually public consciousness will pivot from the more is more / bigger = better mentality and find enjoyment in sleek efficient designs.
It's definitely going to look like arse and drop in value like a stone. Too bad.
I think you're spot on; it feels vulgar in every way. I hope eventually public consciousness will pivot from the more is more / bigger = better mentality and find enjoyment in sleek efficient designs.
It's definitely going to look like arse and drop in value like a stone. Too bad.
T1berious said:
Actually, now I think about it, the entire ultra high performance SUV segment is a joke.
In 2009, I stopped off near the Nurburgring for one night; during the day of arrival, there was a bunch of manufacturer testing going on at the Ring, and they were hooning around in the newly-released X5M, along with various others like ML63 AMG, Cayenne Turbos etc. I couldn't believe the speed the test drivers were carrying in such big cars, but also couldn't really get the point - huge amounts of tyre squeal as they drifted 2.5 tonnes through the curves. Just what you need for the school run.Newc said:
I guess this will be the platform for the next RR suv too ? And credit to the BMW design team, they've already made it look so hideous the RR team can take the afternoon off.
I do think that rather than emissions / tech / speed regs, a lot of benefit could come from just limiting max unladen weights that can be sold as a car.
I like that idea. I do think that rather than emissions / tech / speed regs, a lot of benefit could come from just limiting max unladen weights that can be sold as a car.
Tax based on weight and emissions would be interesting.
So weight acts as an x factor alongside the emissions to deliver the tax.
Weight reductions benefits every aspect of vehicles and their impact. Its been overlooked for too long by mainstream manufacturers
rampageturke said:
Whydoyoutalkcrap said:
Isn't it time BMW kicked their 'Design' team out if the door? Keep their dogs but let them have their white sticks.
They just hired the guy from citroen not too long ago, which is why BMWs are starting to have the same slim headlights as a C4 cactusJapveesix said:
I love it, I'll be getting a mansory kit for mine, blacked out windows and stick my 'BO55 MAN' plate on it from my Cayenne. Then I'll hammer down the outside lane of the motorway forcing poor people to get out of my way by driving 2 foot from their rear bumper.
This deserves recognition 
t in my hands and then clap.To save time I can just copy my exact reply from the Ferrari Purosangue thread.
murphyaj said:
Painfully ugly: Check
Ungainly proportions: Check
Woefully expensive without being usefully better than cars for a fraction of the price: Check (probably)
Yup, it hits all the marks required to be a huge sales success among the people that buy these things.
Ungainly proportions: Check
Woefully expensive without being usefully better than cars for a fraction of the price: Check (probably)
Yup, it hits all the marks required to be a huge sales success among the people that buy these things.
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