RE: Audi RS4 Avant (B7) | The Brave Pill
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Still love seeing these on the road, muscular and purposeful but still fairly discreet. Ownership of one wasn't as joyous though, couldn't live with the constant (and I mean constant) engine management warnings that the dealer could never ever fix. "Oh they all do that" wasn't a good enough answer for me so I shifted it on.
Edited by Ikobo on Saturday 21st May 11:25
jason61c said:
Firebobby said:
Hmm! I recall being in a friend's B7, in front was a 120d 1 series. From about 40mph cruising on a clear rd it took what I thought was quite an effort to stay on the beemers tail up to the legal limit. He'd shifted it on within a week of that episode, very disappointing!!
I think your mum needs to learn how to drive an N/A engined car properly.smilo996 said:
The best RS4?
Less fragile than the B5 but not supersized like the versions after the B7 which are the same size as the initial RS6. THAT engine and still has understated but looks like it means business too.
Don't know if the B7 is the best, and they are getting on a bit now. But I get your point about the size of the later models. I looked at a B8 RS4 Avant at an Audi dealer recently, and was surprised how big it was. I could have bought it, but the snotty sales manager and £615 road tax put me off.Less fragile than the B5 but not supersized like the versions after the B7 which are the same size as the initial RS6. THAT engine and still has understated but looks like it means business too.
TVR Pablo said:
I've had mine for 10 years. Once you've done the coil-overs there isn't anything too scary, so that's a plus for this one.
The gearing doesn't help how fast it feels in a straight line. 3rd is tall and the action is at the top end, so you're mostly relying on mid-range which struggles against modern diesels.
The fun is all cross-country.
Mine is still running the original DRC and oil coolers without issue. The only big expense I’ve had was new discs which are a ridiculous price. The gearing doesn't help how fast it feels in a straight line. 3rd is tall and the action is at the top end, so you're mostly relying on mid-range which struggles against modern diesels.
The fun is all cross-country.
When kept in the upper half of the rev range it pulls like a train, but it needs commitment to do that. You’re right, it is truly in its element on a twisty country lane, not on an autobahn. In that environment it holds its own against almost anything, which is very un-Audi like behaviour!
I was trying to justify one of these recently but the combination of old tech and risk of a huge bill is what put me off in the end. The reality is, it could go in for an MOT and throw a £3k plus bill at you. I would much prefer one that cost more up front with all the main jobs done.
Seems like some people on here need to learn how to use a manual gearbox, you know that thing operated by a stick in the middle. Yes these are not very quick by modern standards but if you're struggling to hang with 4 pot diesels and the like, then it's not the car that's the problem.
asimmalik said:
Seems like some people on here need to learn how to use a manual gearbox, you know that thing operated by a stick in the middle. Yes these are not very quick by modern standards but if you're struggling to hang with 4 pot diesels and the like, then it's not the car that's the problem.
Exactly that. Also how to Rev an n/a engine.The fact someone thinks an 120d is quicker just shows the world we live in.
bobtail4x4 said:
rickk said:
Just me or does the front bumper look to be mismatched on colour and gappy on fit?
Which might be reflected in the price to be fair.
I was thinking thatWhich might be reflected in the price to be fair.
Lovely sound, great package, horrendous running costs for the experience. Had a lil motorway battlen against one in my old E36 M3 Evo in the noughties. The M3 had the edge between 70 and ahem if theoretically I pushed up to 100. But would have one over an e36 for that noise and packaging. If only they had done an E46 touring…
jason61c said:
asimmalik said:
Seems like some people on here need to learn how to use a manual gearbox, you know that thing operated by a stick in the middle. Yes these are not very quick by modern standards but if you're struggling to hang with 4 pot diesels and the like, then it's not the car that's the problem.
Exactly that. Also how to Rev an n/a engine.The fact someone thinks an 120d is quicker just shows the world we live in.
asimmalik said:
Seems like some people on here need to learn how to use a manual gearbox, you know that thing operated by a stick in the middle. Yes these are not very quick by modern standards but if you're struggling to hang with 4 pot diesels and the like, then it's not the car that's the problem.
Tell us you know nothing about fast road driving without saying it lol. 😂 Would love to see you in this RS4 with a good driver in a 120d ahead of you in the twisties!You can be as sharp as you like with a manual gearbox but the simple fact is, there’s only six gears and you just can’t be in the power zone at every corner exit - unlike a modern diesel which has that instant squirt out of every bend - that’s how they can keep up or even get away on the right road.
Of course this whole debate is missing the point - it’s a manual V8 - it’s all about the noise and engagement, it’s cross country pace is largely irrelevant.
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