RE: New Prodrive P25 reimagines Impreza 22B

RE: New Prodrive P25 reimagines Impreza 22B

Wednesday 25th May 2022

New Prodrive P25 reimagines Impreza 22B

The two-door Impreza is making a comeback, built by Prodrive and with 400hp...


We don’t have a lot of information to go on, but sometimes you’ve just gotta run with what you have. At least when we’re talking about something as significant as a new ‘Impreza’, built by Prodrive, the company founded by the force of nature that is David Richards. Prodrive and Subaru had already won the World Rally Championship constructors’ and drivers’ titles in 1995 – and two more constructors’ titles came in the subsequent two years – but it’s 25 years since its debut triumph with the Subaru Impreza World Rally Car (WRC). The new Prodrive P25 is the celebration of that success. 

Prodrive began its iconic association with Subaru in 1990, when it was contracted to develop the Legacy for Group A. However, the team realised that a smaller, more agile car would be a better grounding for success and set about creating its successor. The Impreza was 160mm shorter overall, the wheelbase was reduced by 60 mm, and the weight distribution was more evenly spread. And it included active differentials, which was a first for a rally car. The Impreza’s first outing was at the 1993 1000 Lakes Rally, and Ari Vatanen proved the formula with second place. We all know that wasn’t the end of the story, though. 

Colin McRae also joined Prodrive in 1993 and claimed the team’s first victory when he won the Rally of New Zealand – still driving the old Legacy at that point. In 1995 he took the driver’s title in the Impreza 555 and Subaru and Prodrive its first manufacturers’ title. For 1997 Group A had been replaced by the World Rally Car, with no requirement for a homologation special to compete; cars like the 22B were a celebration of success, rather than a requirement for it. 

The P25 isn’t simply a recreation of the 22B, though. It’s bringing new tech to improve the formula. It will have a 2.5-litre flat-four boxer producing ‘in excess of 400hp’ and a six-speed semi-automatic paddle-shift gearbox. It will also be lighter than the original, thanks to ‘extensive use of carbon fibre’ in its lightweight chassis. 

Peter Stevens has styled the P25, and he was the man who styled the original Impreza WRC. Meanwhile, Prodrive’s straight-talking R&D Director, David Lapworth, is overseeing the engineering side. Lapworth, in a previous stint at Prodrive, was responsible for the original Impreza WRC. This means that the P25’s evolution is backed by an authentic pedigree. 

However, the idea for the P25 came from Richards himself. He said: “The original 22B Impreza is considered the most iconic of Subarus and highly sought after. We wanted to enhance everything that made that car so special by applying the very latest technology to create our own modern interpretation of a car that’s established a place in motoring history.”

As the name alludes to, there will only be 25 P25s made at Prodrive’s headquarters next to the M40 near Banbury. The P25 will make its debut at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in June, and the first cars will be delivered to owners later in the year. If you’re keen, then be quick - Prodrive is accepting 'expressions of interest’ now...


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lcs_turbo

Original Poster:

103 posts

98 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Lovely stuff

Gecko1978

9,705 posts

157 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Ok so I did not win the Euromillions so won't be getting one but how much will it be...200...300...500k

Also what's it based on an old chassis or are they building the whole thing from scratch?

steveb8189

473 posts

191 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Gecko1978 said:
Ok so I did not win the Euromillions so won't be getting one but how much will it be...200...300...500k

Also what's it based on an old chassis or are they building the whole thing from scratch?
Elsewhere they refer to it as a restomod so I guess it's at least based on an original chassis.

Fermit

12,939 posts

100 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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A shame that with it's rarity, and therefore being an appreciating investment, most if any will never be driven. I too predict a telephone number price tag.

sharkattack

56 posts

106 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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I know 2 things with absolute certainty.

1. I love it and I want one more than anything
2. I can't afford it and will never, ever see one in the flesh

Ben Lowden

6,031 posts

177 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Can't wait to see this. Lets hope the debut at Goodwood is a dynamic one!

WCZ

10,523 posts

194 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Gecko1978 said:
Ok so I did not win the Euromillions so won't be getting one but how much will it be...200...300...500k

Also what's it based on an old chassis or are they building the whole thing from scratch?
I can't see them bothering unless they're selling them for £400k or so

I really miss the evo/impreza era, the mr 360 evo was one of my all time faves and there's just nothing around that feels like it imo

borat52

564 posts

208 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Call me a party pooper (I'm up there with the original GC8's most loyal fans) but the 2.5l engine and a paddle shift gearbox are really not what the classic impreza was about.

I'd argue that a 2.35L CDB that revs and a strengthened late STi 5 speed gearbox are the holy grail of classic impreza's.

Presuming Ed

1,398 posts

208 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Love it but with the cost I'm guessing at least 500K not one for me. I'm sure you could take a 2dr Wrx import and do similar for a lot less money but I guess this is a prodrive so adds credibility.

borat52

564 posts

208 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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borat52 said:
Call me a party pooper (I'm up there with the original GC8's most loyal fans) but the 2.5l engine and a paddle shift gearbox are really not what the classic impreza was about.

I'd argue that a 2.35L CDB that revs and a strengthened late STi 5 speed gearbox are the holy grail of classic impreza's.

400bhp is about right though, makes a very nice impreza at that level.

Jon_S_Rally

3,403 posts

88 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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borat52 said:
Call me a party pooper (I'm up there with the original GC8's most loyal fans) but the 2.5l engine and a paddle shift gearbox are really not what the classic impreza was about.

I'd argue that a 2.35L CDB that revs and a strengthened late STi 5 speed gearbox are the holy grail of classic impreza's.
WRC cars were paddle shift though, so it makes sense. That being said, the WRC97 was H-pattern.

Gecko1978

9,705 posts

157 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Re gears will it not have paddles and a stick like a porsche. Also I can't see it being a 22B chassis more a 2 door STI they had in Japan which I assume is just a spec C chassie I would actually like a 2 door hawkeye with less weight etc

originals

1,635 posts

27 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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2.5 and paddle shift?

WHY???

silva bika

94 posts

127 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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borat52 said:
Call me a party pooper (I'm up there with the original GC8's most loyal fans) but the 2.5l engine and a paddle shift gearbox are really not what the classic impreza was about.

I'd argue that a 2.35L CDB that revs and a strengthened late STi 5 speed gearbox are the holy grail of classic impreza's.
OK, you're a party pooper

Macboy

739 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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I'm fairly disappointed they haven't taken the tried and tested formula of every recent recreation/restomod/caricature and immediately given it a £500,000 price tag. Obviously that'll have to be with the in-build pictures and press release number two.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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I don't mind the 2.5 but it seems odd to make it a paddleshift, especially when Subaru manual boxes are usually really enjoyable when they arent crunching.

Jack4688

78 posts

153 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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“Colin McRae also joined Prodrive in 1993”

Try 1991

Wab1974uk

995 posts

27 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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They lost my interest with the `Paddle shift gearbox`.

footsoldier

2,258 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Macboy said:
I'm fairly disappointed they haven't taken the tried and tested formula of every recent recreation/restomod/caricature and immediately given it a 500,000 price tag. Obviously that'll have to be with the in-build pictures and press release number two.
they have...

Mr Fix It

466 posts

268 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Probably based on the 2 door Type R body shell which was also used for the P1. These can still be imported, although they are now getting more expensive as each month goes by.

It was also the type R body shell which RCM used for their first gobstopper car. I think that was a 2.3 engine, or at least based on the 2 rather than 2.5. That was a great car.

I know a guy who made carbon wings to fit in the type r to achieve the 22b shape… so you could commission such a car using parts, but it wouldn’t be the same as a Pro drive car due to their connection with the original rally cars.