RE: 'No frills' Prodrive P25 already sold out
Discussion
hu8742 said:
Seriously, half a million quid?? I get that Subaru & Prodrive have a decent following and there's a lot of history/nostalgia there, but what intrinsically makes it that expensive? Is the engine block made of solid gold?
There's clearly 25+ people who know more than I do. Personally I'd rather have that Singer from a previous article. I can see why that's probably 500k.
I'm guessing it you can happily spunk £500k+ on an Impreza, you probably already have some seriously expensive cars sat in your collection already.There's clearly 25+ people who know more than I do. Personally I'd rather have that Singer from a previous article. I can see why that's probably 500k.
I watched Carfection last night, and I have now warmed to this car. So it's not a reimagined 22B, it a halfway house between a 22B and a full on WRC car. Everything is customisable to the customers requirements.
I'd personally go fully seated road version. Get rid of all the Alcantara dashboard, and get the wheels painted Gold. And if it was possible, get them to install a manual gearbox.
Saying all that, I think I'd still prefer an original 22B though.
The price is quite something but as an object of desire for the person with money, I can see how they managed to sell 25 - whether I agree or disagree that the price matches the brief.
What I find pointless is the talk of this car ever seeing a track and even building a track day spec version. For something bespoke, low volume and clearly very expensive, do they actually think they will be used the same way a regular Impreza was back in the day?
A restomod for grand touring and high days imo has a much higher chance of being driven than a restomod made with the intention of being driven hard.
What I find pointless is the talk of this car ever seeing a track and even building a track day spec version. For something bespoke, low volume and clearly very expensive, do they actually think they will be used the same way a regular Impreza was back in the day?
A restomod for grand touring and high days imo has a much higher chance of being driven than a restomod made with the intention of being driven hard.
500k I do wonder where these fantasy figures come from .I know a company is in it to make money but I wonder what one of these would cost to build from top to bottom.I know your buying exclusivity but I'd rather a gtr for 40k that would keep this honest then some.I know people will say that's not the point
EyeHeartSpellin said:
I love it but I’m always fascinated by just how much money you need to have to buy a car like this. If you had £2 million in the bank you would be richer than 99% of Earths population but this would still be over 25% of your wealth to own. At what insane level does a pure toy like this become actually realistic to buy?!
It just makes me think of the growing wealth inequality in the UK.Even if you narrow its competition down to other specialist restro mods i.e Singer, Gunther Werks, Mechatronik Mercedes, AlfaholicsGTA-R, Callum Aston Vanquish, Everything M3, Eagle E-Type & Ruf conversions - in 15 years time will this car be able to hold it's head up high in company with those bespoke Porsches, Jaguars, Mercedes, M3's, Alfas & Astons?
The video on Carfection was quite interesting. It sounds like they are still finalising some of the details, and that there will be plenty of options available, so each car will be pretty bespoke.
Obviously some people will never get over the price, but the fact they're all sold makes the argument rather irrelevant. The car was made for a certain audience, and that audience has spoken.
Obviously some people will never get over the price, but the fact they're all sold makes the argument rather irrelevant. The car was made for a certain audience, and that audience has spoken.
If I had that sort of money I’d be wanting something with real provenance such as this as an example:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/subaru-impreza...
In the meantime I look forward to the general uplift in Impreza values from stuff like this happening, well done Prodrive for doing it
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/subaru-impreza...
In the meantime I look forward to the general uplift in Impreza values from stuff like this happening, well done Prodrive for doing it
Edited by Scoobysaurus on Saturday 25th June 14:08
Edited by Scoobysaurus on Saturday 25th June 14:09
I can't afford this or a Singer, so my opinion doesn't matter to Prodrive. But I can SEE why a Singer is so expensive - it looks different and special inside and out. As does an Alfaholics. To the vast majority of petrolheads, this will just look like a blue Impreza on too-big wheels, with a clean but standard (for a cheap car) interior. To me, it might have carefully curated oily bits, but it's just not special enough IMO given the enormous price
hu8742 said:
Seriously, half a million quid?? I get that Subaru & Prodrive have a decent following and there's a lot of history/nostalgia there, but what intrinsically makes it that expensive? Is the engine block made of solid gold?
There's clearly 25+ people who know more than I do. Personally I'd rather have that Singer from a previous article. I can see why that's probably 500k.
Shells will be hand made custom - not an off the shelf product. Given the Subaru production line for the original shell likely shut down 20 years ago. Just because it looks like an Impreza doesn’t mean they picked up a bunch of 25 somehow unused and perfectly stored original shells to start work on…There's clearly 25+ people who know more than I do. Personally I'd rather have that Singer from a previous article. I can see why that's probably 500k.
Top quality parts, there will have been testing of various specs and combinations to come to the final decision and spec for things like gearbox, diffs, suspension, wheels, brakes, tyres etc
Small production numbers mean that development cost is high. You’re talking some of the best bods for the job, on the job. Again the whole thing will be hand built.
A design can be up to half of the cost on some of the things that I work on. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the parts came to half of the price of this(before a little profit margin)
ARobinson said:
hu8742 said:
Seriously, half a million quid?? I get that Subaru & Prodrive have a decent following and there's a lot of history/nostalgia there, but what intrinsically makes it that expensive? Is the engine block made of solid gold?
There's clearly 25+ people who know more than I do. Personally I'd rather have that Singer from a previous article. I can see why that's probably 500k.
Shells will be hand made custom - not an off the shelf product. Given the Subaru production line for the original shell likely shut down 20 years ago. Just because it looks like an Impreza doesn’t mean they picked up a bunch of 25 somehow unused and perfectly stored original shells to start work on…There's clearly 25+ people who know more than I do. Personally I'd rather have that Singer from a previous article. I can see why that's probably 500k.
Top quality parts, there will have been testing of various specs and combinations to come to the final decision and spec for things like gearbox, diffs, suspension, wheels, brakes, tyres etc
Small production numbers mean that development cost is high. You’re talking some of the best bods for the job, on the job. Again the whole thing will be hand built.
A design can be up to half of the cost on some of the things that I work on. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the parts came to half of the price of this(before a little profit margin)
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