RE: McMurtry Spéirling takes FOS Hillclimb record

RE: McMurtry Spéirling takes FOS Hillclimb record

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Twinair

642 posts

141 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Madder than mad jack mc-mad on a mad weekend in mad-ville… bonkers…!!!

Go read about McMurtry, I’ve been in aerospace a long time and know his story well, without him there would have been no Concorde engines… apparently Concorde was no slouch either… lol…

He is used to making ‘fast things’ er, faster…!!

Great stuff… :-))


The spinner of plates

17,649 posts

199 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Bloody hell that’s fast!

Credit to the car and max chilton.

The Wookie

13,909 posts

227 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Funk said:
What's notable, in addition to the incredible speed, is that the width of it meant it simply didn't need to slow down to negotiate corners in the way wider cars did.
Funny that’s what I suggested when chatting to TC (Max’s Brother) at the weekend, but Max actually told him he couldn’t use the full width and he was having to make a concerted effort to drive down the middle of the track because the crown of the road was the only bit flat enough for the ground effect to work fully!

Howard1650

313 posts

190 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Pebbles167 said:
Funk said:
...watching the highlights of the fastest runs up the hill made me sad; cars like the Viper, 911 and Jaguar bellowing and roaring their way up the hill just ignites something in you that the soulless whine of the various electric cars just simply couldn't. As 'pistonheads' we've been fortunate to live through a golden age of motoring but despite electric cars being bonkers-quick they simply leave me cold. Nearly the end of an era, sadly.
Yes, I felt this and never so obviously.

I've been fairly optimistic of the electric car, but usually when I see one at a show it's in and amongst classic noisy ICE cars. When the swoosh of electric cars is all we hear, I think I'll truly know the golden years of car culture has passed.

Still, incredible engineering. Well done to them.
Agree, but we still love steam locomotive and people still watch horse races - just no one takes them to town any more because there is a better alternative. ICE cars will not go away, just likely to become more valued and cherished, something for a special occasion.

And , well done to the McMurtry team.

Hairymonster

1,419 posts

104 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Jon_S_Rally said:
I'm sure some will think that makes me a luddite, but there we are.
Join the club!

An epic run, but sounds like the milk float which used to deliver our milk when I were a lad.

Nothing stirs my petrol head veins like the sound of a barely-silenced V8, or a 911 flat six at full chat, or any number of other cars with evocative engine noises - a BMW straight 6, the sigh of a turbo wastegate on a Saab 9000 Aero, the lumpy idle of a Subaru flat four, a Ferrari V12 going through the gears.

Wait till they get this to the 'ring. I take it they're installing the first charging stations halfway around the circuit?

Deltic

69 posts

209 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Was at the top of the hill for the Shootout yesterday afternoon, Absolutely stunning, one of those moments where me and my son looked at each other with mouths open

Roger Irrelevant

2,899 posts

112 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Hairymonster said:
Wait till they get this to the 'ring. I take it they're installing the first charging stations halfway around the circuit?
This got me wondering so I did a bit of research (aka about 30 seconds on Google), and apparently if the McMurtry were subject to the WLTP test it would have a range of over 300 miles. Not that surprising when you learn (as I just did) that its battery is actually a decent size at 60kwh, and it's got a tiny frontal area. So I reckon it could get round the 'ring OK. Just like VW's IDR milk float wheezed its way up Pikes Peak a few years back.

howardhughes

980 posts

203 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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EV. Quite possibly the biggest mistake in the history of the Goodwood.

samoht

5,633 posts

145 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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In terms of 'what else could the Speirling do', this has a 60 kWh battery and weighs 1000kg, whereas the ID R is 45 kWh and 1100kg. So presumably it could effectively challenge any of the times the VW has set.

That did Pikes Peak in just under 8 minutes and Nurburgring in just over 6, both of which seem eminently beatable by the McMurtry.

With 60 kWh and 1000hp it could run at full power for a continuous ~5 minutes, however once you add in 10-20% regen and consider time spent off-throttle when slowing down and turning, you're probably looking at around 10 minutes 'flat out' depending on the course.

The TT course record is around 16 minutes so perhaps a bit longer than optimum, I imagine it could have a decent shot but wouldn't be able to run full power all the way around.

HayesDC2

285 posts

131 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Was something special to see in person, having seen the few performance orientated electric cars like the GT4 ePerformance too I am for the first time swaying towards an electric car in the near future.

To see something like a GT3 Cup go past at speed and then shortly after see the Lucid Air 4 door saloon go past even quicker is quite something.

fantheman80

1,412 posts

48 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Awesome achievement, well done to the whole team...

But, whats the end game? Surely they are not going to sell many cars, so is it the tech to be bought by other oems etc? Whatever it is, good luck

wowman

66 posts

152 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Love it!

No fake noise, no frills, just amazing speed.

Plus: Small size, only one seat.

A true sportscar.

CanAm

9,115 posts

271 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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A bit claustrophobic for my taste. I wonder if they’ll build me a spyder?


MountainsofSussex

281 posts

185 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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samoht said:
In terms of 'what else could the Speirling do', this has a 60 kWh battery and weighs 1000kg, whereas the ID R is 45 kWh and 1100kg. So presumably it could effectively challenge any of the times the VW has set.

That did Pikes Peak in just under 8 minutes and Nurburgring in just over 6, both of which seem eminently beatable by the McMurtry.

With 60 kWh and 1000hp it could run at full power for a continuous ~5 minutes, however once you add in 10-20% regen and consider time spent off-throttle when slowing down and turning, you're probably looking at around 10 minutes 'flat out' depending on the course.

The TT course record is around 16 minutes so perhaps a bit longer than optimum, I imagine it could have a decent shot but wouldn't be able to run full power all the way around.
I wonder how their motor and battery cooling would hold up to that much full throttle running. The Goodwood Hill is short enough not to cause any problems there - the long straights of the Ring might cause some issues

whytheory

750 posts

145 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Never seen a car look so planted, more like a fighter jet.

Watching the ID R video you can see that moving around so much more, it's impressive the times are so close cos the VW doesn't look as quick.

CanAm

9,115 posts

271 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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fantheman80 said:
Awesome achievement, well done to the whole team...

But, whats the end game? Surely they are not going to sell many cars, so is it the tech to be bought by other oems etc? Whatever it is, good luck
They could sell the power packs to Vintage Voltage....

McRors

264 posts

55 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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howardhughes said:
EV. Quite possibly the biggest mistake in the history of the Goodwood.
The car was appearing at The Festival of Speed not The Festival of Internal Combustion Engines. Like it or not - I'm not totally convinced yet - EVs are here to stay so we might as well celebrate the fast ones.

CubanPete

3,630 posts

187 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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The car is road legal and you can buy them.

There are a lot of very rich people worldwide that would be interested.

But why does the have to be an end game? Sir DM is an engineer and loves cars and technology and has one of the most inventive minds in history. When you have made yourself a 'reasonably comfortable' sum, you aren't going to be swearing at a Westfield in a single concrete garage at the weekend.

Gemaeden

289 posts

114 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Surely someone could do this with an ICE. Stick a couple of snowmobile engines in Travis Pastrana's Subaru (or other) and Bob's your uncle.

Frimley111R

15,537 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Funk said:
IDR = 39.9s
McMurtry = 39.08s
I actually expected it to have blitzed the existing record although I hadn't seen the VW go up the hill.

IDR here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8il5ohB8FYk&ab...