RE: Rodin Cars announces wild FZERO for 2023

RE: Rodin Cars announces wild FZERO for 2023

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Olivera

7,122 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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ate one too said:
Rodin is owned by David Dicker.

Dicker Data...
<snigger>

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
Besides how the FZero will turn out to be in the future, on a general note I have to say that the irony and the low-level comments on the Rodin Cars firm that I read in this thread are quite disappointing and they indicate a sub-par general car knowledge from many of the posters here. And to say that the name of this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...


Edited by EffettoSuolo on Wednesday 10th August 14:32
Is that you David? laugh

Apologies that we can't all keep up with the next vapourware supercar project.

cookie1600

2,109 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
The owner and founder, David Dicker, is a multi-millionaire
Ah yes, that old Chestnut: "How to become a millionaire in exotic sports car manufacture.....". Does he play golf with Les Edgar by chance?

hairykrishna

13,165 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
MountainsofSussex said:
They do seem like a reasonably serious operation: https://youtu.be/ukOuwRHxnL0
They are.
Then they should be ashamed of the quality of the renders in this press release as they'd embarrass many a hobbyist. They've been promising this car for years now.


Stevie_Wonder

1,055 posts

202 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
the low-level comments ... that I read in this thread are quite disappointing and they indicate a sub-par general car knowledge from many of the posters here. And to say that the name of this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...
then this happens...

Olivera said:
ate one too said:
Rodin is owned by David Dicker.
Dicker Data...
<snigger>
I love PistonHeads laugh

Stevie_Wonder

1,055 posts

202 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
blah blah blah...this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...
uhhh, really?


matnrach3

68 posts

82 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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If you want something like this for the track then just go and buy an old proper racing car. It will be quicker, cost less and look better

Wab1974uk

990 posts

27 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Can't help feeling, I'd look a bit of a Twerp pulling into Tesco car park in one of them !

Sandpit Steve

9,970 posts

74 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
They are.
They sponsor Lawson in F2, Chadwick in WSeries and young talents in F3, they have an enormous facility with top tech in New Zealand and a second pole in UK at Donington.
They have recently launched their own Rodin Cars Super GT Series as well.
The open-wheeler FZed is a fully operational track car quite a bit faster than current F2 machines, it is based on the previous Lotus T125 project but has been subjected to a wide range of modifications and improvements to engine, chassis, aero, weight, software, all carried out and developed in-house by the Rodin Team.
The owner and founder, David Dicker, is a multi-millionaire also owner and founder of IT facility Dicker Data (from the 80s), has an enormous passion for cars and is a proven Ferrari Challenge winner.
All of these activities, while impressive, are anyway 'side quests' compared to the development of the FZero, which is the real target for David and the facility and it has been in the works and in its development phase from many years.

Besides how the FZero will turn out to be in the future, on a general note I have to say that the irony and the low-level comments on the Rodin Cars firm that I read in this thread are quite disappointing and they indicate a sub-par general car knowledge from many of the posters here. And to say that the name of this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...
Quite a bit faster than current F2 machines?

Sounds interesting, given that the current F2, LMP1 and Indycar are all around the same speed, with only a modern hybrid F1 car being noticeably faster.

I’m looking forward to the F1-ballpark lap times, you’ll have to let us know when the demo is happening.

biggbn

23,187 posts

220 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
They are.
They sponsor Lawson in F2, Chadwick in WSeries and young talents in F3, they have an enormous facility with top tech in New Zealand and a second pole in UK at Donington.
They have recently launched their own Rodin Cars Super GT Series as well.
The open-wheeler FZed is a fully operational track car quite a bit faster than current F2 machines, it is based on the previous Lotus T125 project but has been subjected to a wide range of modifications and improvements to engine, chassis, aero, weight, software, all carried out and developed in-house by the Rodin Team.
The owner and founder, David Dicker, is a multi-millionaire also owner and founder of IT facility Dicker Data (from the 80s), has an enormous passion for cars and is a proven Ferrari Challenge winner.
All of these activities, while impressive, are anyway 'side quests' compared to the development of the FZero, which is the real target for David and the facility and it has been in the works and in its development phase from many years.

Besides how the FZero will turn out to be in the future, on a general note I have to say that the irony and the low-level comments on the Rodin Cars firm that I read in this thread are quite disappointing and they indicate a sub-par general car knowledge from many of the posters here. And to say that the name of this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...


Edited by EffettoSuolo on Wednesday 10th August 14:32
I agree man, I think as a concept that looks brilliant but then the Caparro T1 was one of my favourite ever supercars. Hope this comes to fruition, I'd have something like that over any of the usual suspects!

stavr0ss

198 posts

128 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
MountainsofSussex said:
They do seem like a reasonably serious operation: https://youtu.be/ukOuwRHxnL0
They are.
They sponsor Lawson in F2, Chadwick in WSeries and young talents in F3, they have an enormous facility with top tech in New Zealand and a second pole in UK at Donington.
They have recently launched their own Rodin Cars Super GT Series as well.
The open-wheeler FZed is a fully operational track car quite a bit faster than current F2 machines, it is based on the previous Lotus T125 project but has been subjected to a wide range of modifications and improvements to engine, chassis, aero, weight, software, all carried out and developed in-house by the Rodin Team.
The owner and founder, David Dicker, is a multi-millionaire also owner and founder of IT facility Dicker Data (from the 80s), has an enormous passion for cars and is a proven Ferrari Challenge winner.
All of these activities, while impressive, are anyway 'side quests' compared to the development of the FZero, which is the real target for David and the facility and it has been in the works and in its development phase from many years.

Besides how the FZero will turn out to be in the future, on a general note I have to say that the irony and the low-level comments on the Rodin Cars firm that I read in this thread are quite disappointing and they indicate a sub-par general car knowledge from many of the posters here. And to say that the name of this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...


Edited by EffettoSuolo on Wednesday 10th August 14:32
2 posts?
Member since December 2021?
Located in ‘Italy’

We know that’s you, Dicker!

nismo48

3,678 posts

207 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Stevie_Wonder said:
EffettoSuolo said:
the low-level comments ... that I read in this thread are quite disappointing and they indicate a sub-par general car knowledge from many of the posters here. And to say that the name of this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...
then this happens...

Olivera said:
ate one too said:
Rodin is owned by David Dicker.
Dicker Data...
<snigger>
I love PistonHeads laugh
biglaughbiglaugh

998420

901 posts

151 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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The numbers all sounded a bit fantastical, and then they mention that it's also a hybrid. Using a pp9 for battery duties I guess

Far be it for me.to tells a double.billionaire how to do things, but making your own v10, for a limited run car, seems pretty mad.

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

23 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Mark-C said:
Sulaco said:
More than a whiff of Caparo T1 about it.

That car was hot news for a while. It was the next bright thing…
You can buy one of those for £190k if you want - at least it really existed --> https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1167283

I've not been in Norfolk for years but Stratton Motors had one in the window not long after they were launched - maybe the same one?!
We live at Hethel virtually next door to Lotus and Long Strattons very near. I often stop by for fuel at Stratton Motors, they usually have some sort of exotica in the showroom and I believe this is the same car..

Bobby Lee

224 posts

55 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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EffettoSuolo said:
MountainsofSussex said:
They do seem like a reasonably serious operation: https://youtu.be/ukOuwRHxnL0
They are.
They sponsor Lawson in F2, Chadwick in WSeries and young talents in F3, they have an enormous facility with top tech in New Zealand and a second pole in UK at Donington.
They have recently launched their own Rodin Cars Super GT Series as well.
The open-wheeler FZed is a fully operational track car quite a bit faster than current F2 machines, it is based on the previous Lotus T125 project but has been subjected to a wide range of modifications and improvements to engine, chassis, aero, weight, software, all carried out and developed in-house by the Rodin Team.
The owner and founder, David Dicker, is a multi-millionaire also owner and founder of IT facility Dicker Data (from the 80s), has an enormous passion for cars and is a proven Ferrari Challenge winner.
All of these activities, while impressive, are anyway 'side quests' compared to the development of the FZero, which is the real target for David and the facility and it has been in the works and in its development phase from many years.

Besides how the FZero will turn out to be in the future, on a general note I have to say that the irony and the low-level comments on the Rodin Cars firm that I read in this thread are quite disappointing and they indicate a sub-par general car knowledge from many of the posters here. And to say that the name of this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...


Edited by EffettoSuolo on Wednesday 10th August 14:32
Triggered hehe

To be fair they have been a going concern with that repurposed Lotus F1 car from a few years ago, for quite some time. Clear where financing -could- come from… Probably at least a rung above total vapourware.

Jellinek

274 posts

275 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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nismo48 said:
Stevie_Wonder said:
EffettoSuolo said:
the low-level comments ... that I read in this thread are quite disappointing and they indicate a sub-par general car knowledge from many of the posters here. And to say that the name of this site is PistonHeads, so I was expecting a lot better...
then this happens...

Olivera said:
ate one too said:
Rodin is owned by David Dicker.
Dicker Data...
<snigger>
I love PistonHeads laugh
biglaughbiglaugh
Surely got to be named the Rodin Dicker?

esotericar

745 posts

27 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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ZedLeg said:
If that comes out next year I'll donate my entire year's salary to charity.
Possibly unwise words. This thing is largely self funded by someone very well capitalised who is doing the project on the basis that he can afford to fund it and have it be a total commercial failure. It's not dependent on outside investments or stealing deposits from Peter to pay Paul to do the basic engineering.

They make most of the car in house, including stuff like the crank. This is not the usual vapourware.

GT9

6,535 posts

172 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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Correct me if I'm wrong but this car is claimed to have more power, less weight and substantially more downforce than a current F1 car.

Huge downforce that probably depends on a very finely balanced suspension set-up matched to the track. The sort of downforce that could disappear very quickly under certain dynamic conditions.

So can someone explain who exactly is going to be able to afford to buy one of these, and, using all of the performance, have the requisite physical fitness and driving ability to not die in a fiery crash as soon as they make the slightest mistake.

The other thing is that a massively fast track car isn't necessarily enjoyable to drive. I'm not convinced that bolting on turbochargers and electric assist to chase silly power outputs is the right approach to making the ultimate track car. It's all very well making claims it will outperform the T50 Lauda or Valkyrie but if the quality of the renders is any refection on the quality of the engineering and, in particular, aerodynamic know-how, I'm not feeling confident at this juncture.

Hope to be proven wrong though.

Ledzep

24 posts

143 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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I have done dozens of laps on Rodin’s own tracks (note the plural) in Ferraris and Alfas. Also I have been through the workshop twice. Since then a whole new engine plant has been added. It’s a very serious operation. Dicker Data is only a part of David’s successful business. His support of up-and-coming race drivers is also to be respected. Liam Lawson is faster around their top track in the Fzed than he is in a F2 (circa 2014 car IIRC) so Rodin had some serious credibility. Fascinating to see progress on the FZero.

FlukePlay

946 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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I think Mr Dicker is just willy waving with these performance figures....