RE: Suzuki Jimny | PH Used Buying Guide
Discussion
I've owned one since Jan 2019, pre-ordered in 2018 when they were announced. I was looking at Defenders at the time and this seemed a more practical choice in every way. The only thing a Defender does appreciably better is tow.
It's my daily driver with 24k miles and has been used for off-road days, family holidays in the UK and Europe and solo touring/camping, including the NC500. I agree with most of the article, just a couple of comments.
Initial (pre-emissions withdrawal) supply in the UK was low due to overwhelming worldwide demand taking Suzuki by surprise. There's still a 3 month+ wait in places like Australia, where used models also sell for above list.
The only aspect of the SZ4 which seems popular over the SZ5 amongst owners are the steel wheels (although they weigh half a kilo more than the stock alloys). Minimalism is one thing, but most SZ4 owners then realise they want a screen with Android Auto and want to retro fit heated seats and mirrors etc. The LED headlights on the SZ5 are the best I've ever had on any car, hugely powerful.
It has a lot of body roll on stock suspension - think mutant baby of Citroen 2CV and Series Land Rover. Personally I love that about it, those more used to modern cars not so much. One of the beauties of the car is the huge range of aftermarket accessories. Many owners fit aftermarket shocks, with or without lift springs, which reduce lean a bit.
99% of owners would agree that the car would benefit from an additional gear ratio in both the manual and auto boxes. I just set the cruise at 60mph and enjoy a stress-free time.
The article is wrong about service intervals. In the EU/UK they're 12500 miles / 12 months. The 9000 mile interval is for non-EU countries.
Steering is slow, with lots of turns lock to lock, which has the benefit of minimising kick-back off-road (a steering damper is also fitted) and the turning circle is impressive for a true 4x4 at 9m. Drive it like a Landy, start turning before you reach the corner and don't make sudden changes in direction, the suspension really doesn't like that.
I disagree with the article regarding rear legroom, I'm 5'10 and can sit in the back comfortably with the driver's seat setup for me. Bear in mind the non-LCV model is a strict 4 seater with only 4 belts.
Luggage space is virtually nil with both rear seats in use. As a family of three we typically run around with one rear seat down. The bit advantages of the Jimny interior are that it's square, has a high ceiling and that ALL of the seats can fold completely flat. You can fit surprisingly massive items inside - I've had a 5 drawer metal filing cabinet inside before, taking up the whole passenger side from dash to rear door.
I can confirm that using the car as a mini camper is absolutely possible. Someone my height can lie fully stretched out without touching dash or tailgate. I think 6ft would be the absolute limit though.
I don't believe the article is correct when it mentions retro-fitting rear seats back into the LCV. The LCV is missing the tabs and brackets needed to locate the seats on the body shell and the chassis is missing the additional impact box sections in the middle that the passenger version has.
I'm clearly biased but think it's a modern classic, nothing minor about it. It works in any situation from posh hotels to muddy tracks. I've probably had a hundred people come up to me to talk about the car over the last 3.5 years, or just to stop and say how much they like it. I've never had that from any other car in 30+ years of driving. The first commenter was spot on, it's a car that makes you smile when you see it, it's got soul.
Regarding comments from others:
"too slow/noisy for distance" - I did the NC500 in a week (1600 miles door to door from the South East) and have just got back from a 1500 mile Euro roadtrip with the family (3 up, filled with luggage and a roofbox) on Autoroutes and through the Alps, 6-8hrs driving some days, it's fine, although the tiny petrol tank is an irritation, 250 miles between refills.
"baby G class" - the first Jimny was released before the first G-Wagen, so technically G Classes are fat Jimnys.
"rust" - yeah, probably if the Gen3 is anything to go by. If you buy one, treat it accordingly with rust-prevention wax of your choice. Most owners I know have waxoiled/dinitroled/lanoguarded, I'm a fan of the sheep juice myself.
"1001 better cars available" - there are very few cars I'd rather own than this and those are all 30+ years old or stupid money like a Singer 911.
"why didn't they fit the Boosterjet turbo lump?" - seems an obvious choice, but given it has the aero of a brick, I don't think that would be enough to drop the emissions to the level Suzuki wanted, it would require a hybrid of some type.
"They even sold it with a 3 cylinder turbo in Japan didn't they?!" - JDM Kei cars (which are narrower without the arch extensions) have a 660cc turbo triple.
Final comment - don't buy one expecting a SUV. Don't expect a cute family hatchback. Don't expect modern city car comfort, economy or performance. Expect a smaller, more reliable, slightly more comfortable classic Land Rover Defender and you won't be disappointed.
Two weeks from new - it's what they're designed for.
It looks big in isolation, but when you park it next to 'normal' cars.
It's my daily driver with 24k miles and has been used for off-road days, family holidays in the UK and Europe and solo touring/camping, including the NC500. I agree with most of the article, just a couple of comments.
Initial (pre-emissions withdrawal) supply in the UK was low due to overwhelming worldwide demand taking Suzuki by surprise. There's still a 3 month+ wait in places like Australia, where used models also sell for above list.
The only aspect of the SZ4 which seems popular over the SZ5 amongst owners are the steel wheels (although they weigh half a kilo more than the stock alloys). Minimalism is one thing, but most SZ4 owners then realise they want a screen with Android Auto and want to retro fit heated seats and mirrors etc. The LED headlights on the SZ5 are the best I've ever had on any car, hugely powerful.
It has a lot of body roll on stock suspension - think mutant baby of Citroen 2CV and Series Land Rover. Personally I love that about it, those more used to modern cars not so much. One of the beauties of the car is the huge range of aftermarket accessories. Many owners fit aftermarket shocks, with or without lift springs, which reduce lean a bit.
99% of owners would agree that the car would benefit from an additional gear ratio in both the manual and auto boxes. I just set the cruise at 60mph and enjoy a stress-free time.
The article is wrong about service intervals. In the EU/UK they're 12500 miles / 12 months. The 9000 mile interval is for non-EU countries.
Steering is slow, with lots of turns lock to lock, which has the benefit of minimising kick-back off-road (a steering damper is also fitted) and the turning circle is impressive for a true 4x4 at 9m. Drive it like a Landy, start turning before you reach the corner and don't make sudden changes in direction, the suspension really doesn't like that.
I disagree with the article regarding rear legroom, I'm 5'10 and can sit in the back comfortably with the driver's seat setup for me. Bear in mind the non-LCV model is a strict 4 seater with only 4 belts.
Luggage space is virtually nil with both rear seats in use. As a family of three we typically run around with one rear seat down. The bit advantages of the Jimny interior are that it's square, has a high ceiling and that ALL of the seats can fold completely flat. You can fit surprisingly massive items inside - I've had a 5 drawer metal filing cabinet inside before, taking up the whole passenger side from dash to rear door.
I can confirm that using the car as a mini camper is absolutely possible. Someone my height can lie fully stretched out without touching dash or tailgate. I think 6ft would be the absolute limit though.
I don't believe the article is correct when it mentions retro-fitting rear seats back into the LCV. The LCV is missing the tabs and brackets needed to locate the seats on the body shell and the chassis is missing the additional impact box sections in the middle that the passenger version has.
I'm clearly biased but think it's a modern classic, nothing minor about it. It works in any situation from posh hotels to muddy tracks. I've probably had a hundred people come up to me to talk about the car over the last 3.5 years, or just to stop and say how much they like it. I've never had that from any other car in 30+ years of driving. The first commenter was spot on, it's a car that makes you smile when you see it, it's got soul.
Regarding comments from others:
"too slow/noisy for distance" - I did the NC500 in a week (1600 miles door to door from the South East) and have just got back from a 1500 mile Euro roadtrip with the family (3 up, filled with luggage and a roofbox) on Autoroutes and through the Alps, 6-8hrs driving some days, it's fine, although the tiny petrol tank is an irritation, 250 miles between refills.
"baby G class" - the first Jimny was released before the first G-Wagen, so technically G Classes are fat Jimnys.
"rust" - yeah, probably if the Gen3 is anything to go by. If you buy one, treat it accordingly with rust-prevention wax of your choice. Most owners I know have waxoiled/dinitroled/lanoguarded, I'm a fan of the sheep juice myself.
"1001 better cars available" - there are very few cars I'd rather own than this and those are all 30+ years old or stupid money like a Singer 911.
"why didn't they fit the Boosterjet turbo lump?" - seems an obvious choice, but given it has the aero of a brick, I don't think that would be enough to drop the emissions to the level Suzuki wanted, it would require a hybrid of some type.
"They even sold it with a 3 cylinder turbo in Japan didn't they?!" - JDM Kei cars (which are narrower without the arch extensions) have a 660cc turbo triple.
Final comment - don't buy one expecting a SUV. Don't expect a cute family hatchback. Don't expect modern city car comfort, economy or performance. Expect a smaller, more reliable, slightly more comfortable classic Land Rover Defender and you won't be disappointed.
Two weeks from new - it's what they're designed for.
It looks big in isolation, but when you park it next to 'normal' cars.
Edited by gravitygravy on Monday 15th August 10:42
Mackofthejungle said:
They even sold it with a 3 cylinder turbo in Japan didn't they?!
I've only just discovered that the three-cylinder is in a physically similar but dimensionally smaller kei-car version sold in Japan. It's the one on the left. The bigger Sierra is the one sold as the Jimny elsewhere. interwebs said:
The 2018 Suzuki Jimny measures 3,395 mm in length, 1,475 mm in width and 1,725 mm in height. It employs the R06A 0.66-litre three-cylinder petrol engine that produces 64 PS and 96 Nm of torque. The 2018 Suzuki Jimny Sierra is 3,550 mm long, 1,645 mm wide and 1,730 high. It uses the K15B 1.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine good that develops 102 PS and 130 Nm of torque.
Both versions have a 2,550 mm wheelbase.
It's like the anti-pattern to product simplification.Both versions have a 2,550 mm wheelbase.
gravitygravy said:
I've owned one since Jan 2019, pre-ordered in 2018 when they were announced. I was looking at Defenders at the time and this seemed a more practical choice in every way. The only thing a Defender does appreciably better is tow.
It's my daily driver with 24k miles and has been used for off-road days, family holidays in the UK and Europe and solo touring/camping, including the NC500. I agree with most of the article, just a couple of comments.
Initial (pre-emissions withdrawal) supply in the UK was low due to overwhelming worldwide demand taking Suzuki by surprise. There's still a 3 month+ wait in places like Australia, where used models also sell for above list.
The only aspect of the SZ4 which seems popular over the SZ5 amongst owners are the steel wheels (although they weigh half a kilo more than the stock alloys). Minimalism is one thing, but most SZ4 owners then realise they want a screen with Android Auto and want to retro fit heated seats and mirrors etc. The LED headlights on the SZ5 are the best I've ever had on any car, hugely powerful.
It has a lot of body roll on stock suspension - think mutant baby of Citroen 2CV and Series Land Rover. Personally I love that about it, those more used to modern cars not so much. One of the beauties of the car is the huge range of aftermarket accessories. Many owners fit aftermarket shocks, with or without lift springs, which reduce lean a bit.
99% of owners would agree that the car would benefit from an additional gear ratio in both the manual and auto boxes. I just set the cruise at 60mph and enjoy a stress-free time.
The article is wrong about service intervals. In the EU/UK they're 12500 miles / 12 months. The 9000 mile interval is for non-EU countries.
Steering is slow, with lots of turns lock to lock, which has the benefit of minimising kick-back off-road (a steering damper is also fitted) and the turning circle is impressive for a true 4x4 at 9m. Drive it like a Landy, start turning before you reach the corner and don't make sudden changes in direction, the suspension really doesn't like that.
I disagree with the article regarding rear legroom, I'm 5'10 and can sit in the back comfortably with the driver's seat setup for me. Bear in mind the non-LCV model is a strict 4 seater with only 4 belts.
Luggage space is virtually nil with both rear seats in use. As a family of three we typically run around with one rear seat down. The bit advantages of the Jimny interior are that it's square, has a high ceiling and that ALL of the seats can fold completely flat. You can fit surprisingly massive items inside - I've had a 5 drawer metal filing cabinet inside before, taking up the whole passenger side from dash to rear door.
I can confirm that using the car as a mini camper is absolutely possible. Someone my height can lie fully stretched out without touching dash or tailgate. I think 6ft would be the absolute limit though.
I don't believe the article is correct when it mentions retro-fitting rear seats back into the LCV. The LCV is missing the tabs and brackets needed to locate the seats on the body shell and the chassis is missing the additional impact box sections in the middle that the passenger version has.
I'm clearly biased but think it's a modern classic, nothing minor about it. It works in any situation from posh hotels to muddy tracks. I've probably had a hundred people come up to me to talk about the car over the last 3.5 years, or just to stop and say how much they like it. I've never had that from any other car in 30+ years of driving. The first commenter was spot on, it's a car that makes you smile when you see it, it's got soul.
Regarding comments from others:
"too slow/noisy for distance" - I did the NC500 in a week (1600 miles door to door from the South East) and have just got back from a 1500 mile Euro roadtrip with the family (3 up, filled with luggage and a roofbox) on Autoroutes and through the Alps, 6-8hrs driving some days, it's fine, although the tiny petrol tank is an irritation, 250 miles between refills.
"baby G class" - the first Jimny was released before the first G-Wagen, so technically G Classes are fat Jimnys.
"rust" - yeah, probably if the Gen3 is anything to go by. If you buy one, treat it accordingly with rust-prevention wax of your choice. Most owners I know have waxoiled/dinitroled/lanoguarded, I'm a fan of the sheep juice myself.
"1001 better cars available" - there are very few cars I'd rather own than this and those are all 30+ years old or stupid money like a Singer 911.
"why didn't they fit the Boosterjet turbo lump?" - seems an obvious choice, but given it has the aero of a brick, I don't think that would be enough to drop the emissions to the level Suzuki wanted, it would require a hybrid of some type.
"They even sold it with a 3 cylinder turbo in Japan didn't they?!" - JDM Kei cars (which are narrower without the arch extensions) have a 660cc turbo triple.
Final comment - don't buy one expecting a SUV. Don't expect a cute family hatchback. Don't expect modern city car comfort, economy or performance. Expect a smaller, more reliable, slightly more comfortable classic Land Rover Defender and you won't be disappointed.
Two weeks from new - it's what they're designed for.
It looks big in isolation, but when you park it next to 'normal' cars.
Brilliant post - thanks!It's my daily driver with 24k miles and has been used for off-road days, family holidays in the UK and Europe and solo touring/camping, including the NC500. I agree with most of the article, just a couple of comments.
Initial (pre-emissions withdrawal) supply in the UK was low due to overwhelming worldwide demand taking Suzuki by surprise. There's still a 3 month+ wait in places like Australia, where used models also sell for above list.
The only aspect of the SZ4 which seems popular over the SZ5 amongst owners are the steel wheels (although they weigh half a kilo more than the stock alloys). Minimalism is one thing, but most SZ4 owners then realise they want a screen with Android Auto and want to retro fit heated seats and mirrors etc. The LED headlights on the SZ5 are the best I've ever had on any car, hugely powerful.
It has a lot of body roll on stock suspension - think mutant baby of Citroen 2CV and Series Land Rover. Personally I love that about it, those more used to modern cars not so much. One of the beauties of the car is the huge range of aftermarket accessories. Many owners fit aftermarket shocks, with or without lift springs, which reduce lean a bit.
99% of owners would agree that the car would benefit from an additional gear ratio in both the manual and auto boxes. I just set the cruise at 60mph and enjoy a stress-free time.
The article is wrong about service intervals. In the EU/UK they're 12500 miles / 12 months. The 9000 mile interval is for non-EU countries.
Steering is slow, with lots of turns lock to lock, which has the benefit of minimising kick-back off-road (a steering damper is also fitted) and the turning circle is impressive for a true 4x4 at 9m. Drive it like a Landy, start turning before you reach the corner and don't make sudden changes in direction, the suspension really doesn't like that.
I disagree with the article regarding rear legroom, I'm 5'10 and can sit in the back comfortably with the driver's seat setup for me. Bear in mind the non-LCV model is a strict 4 seater with only 4 belts.
Luggage space is virtually nil with both rear seats in use. As a family of three we typically run around with one rear seat down. The bit advantages of the Jimny interior are that it's square, has a high ceiling and that ALL of the seats can fold completely flat. You can fit surprisingly massive items inside - I've had a 5 drawer metal filing cabinet inside before, taking up the whole passenger side from dash to rear door.
I can confirm that using the car as a mini camper is absolutely possible. Someone my height can lie fully stretched out without touching dash or tailgate. I think 6ft would be the absolute limit though.
I don't believe the article is correct when it mentions retro-fitting rear seats back into the LCV. The LCV is missing the tabs and brackets needed to locate the seats on the body shell and the chassis is missing the additional impact box sections in the middle that the passenger version has.
I'm clearly biased but think it's a modern classic, nothing minor about it. It works in any situation from posh hotels to muddy tracks. I've probably had a hundred people come up to me to talk about the car over the last 3.5 years, or just to stop and say how much they like it. I've never had that from any other car in 30+ years of driving. The first commenter was spot on, it's a car that makes you smile when you see it, it's got soul.
Regarding comments from others:
"too slow/noisy for distance" - I did the NC500 in a week (1600 miles door to door from the South East) and have just got back from a 1500 mile Euro roadtrip with the family (3 up, filled with luggage and a roofbox) on Autoroutes and through the Alps, 6-8hrs driving some days, it's fine, although the tiny petrol tank is an irritation, 250 miles between refills.
"baby G class" - the first Jimny was released before the first G-Wagen, so technically G Classes are fat Jimnys.
"rust" - yeah, probably if the Gen3 is anything to go by. If you buy one, treat it accordingly with rust-prevention wax of your choice. Most owners I know have waxoiled/dinitroled/lanoguarded, I'm a fan of the sheep juice myself.
"1001 better cars available" - there are very few cars I'd rather own than this and those are all 30+ years old or stupid money like a Singer 911.
"why didn't they fit the Boosterjet turbo lump?" - seems an obvious choice, but given it has the aero of a brick, I don't think that would be enough to drop the emissions to the level Suzuki wanted, it would require a hybrid of some type.
"They even sold it with a 3 cylinder turbo in Japan didn't they?!" - JDM Kei cars (which are narrower without the arch extensions) have a 660cc turbo triple.
Final comment - don't buy one expecting a SUV. Don't expect a cute family hatchback. Don't expect modern city car comfort, economy or performance. Expect a smaller, more reliable, slightly more comfortable classic Land Rover Defender and you won't be disappointed.
Two weeks from new - it's what they're designed for.
It looks big in isolation, but when you park it next to 'normal' cars.
Edited by gravitygravy on Monday 15th August 10:42
Correct re rear seat belts - you can't retrofit them on the commercial. I didn't know the service interval is 12k, I thought it was 9k so that's a bonus (9k would be a pita for me)
If you don't mind me asking - what is your mpg like and do you just use normal unleaded fuel? Also, have you changed the tyres from the standard ones? I see a lot of owners have gone for BF Goodrrich All-Terrain (215/75/r15) but at the cost of massively (?) increased fuel consumption
Phooey said:
Brilliant post - thanks!
Correct re rear seat belts - you can't retrofit them on the commercial. I didn't know the service interval is 12k, I thought it was 9k so that's a bonus (9k would be a pita for me)
If you don't mind me asking - what is your mpg like and do you just use normal unleaded fuel? Also, have you changed the tyres from the standard ones? I see a lot of owners have gone for BF Goodrrich All-Terrain (215/75/r15) but at the cost of massively (?) increased fuel consumption
Thanks. I use normal unleaded, I've tried super but didn't notice any difference in economy.Correct re rear seat belts - you can't retrofit them on the commercial. I didn't know the service interval is 12k, I thought it was 9k so that's a bonus (9k would be a pita for me)
If you don't mind me asking - what is your mpg like and do you just use normal unleaded fuel? Also, have you changed the tyres from the standard ones? I see a lot of owners have gone for BF Goodrrich All-Terrain (215/75/r15) but at the cost of massively (?) increased fuel consumption
MPG isn't great, I average 34mpg, but mine is an automatic. People I know with manuals are more in the 38mpg range. On long runs I peak at about 39mpg, off-road or grinding up alpine switchbacks it can drop to 28mpg. I run Yokohama G015 215/75R15 A/T tyres, which are each 4kg heavier than the stock Bridgestone Duelers and dropped my mpg by 1 or 2 over stock. Still lighter than the BFGs of the same size! When these eventually wear out I'll probably stick to the Yokohamas but drop back to the stock 195/80R15 size, which are a non-LT (light truck) version with lighter construction and lower load rating, so hopefully I'll regain some economy.
Section from the user manual on service intervals:
Phooey said:
Brilliant post - thanks!
Correct re rear seat belts - you can't retrofit them on the commercial. I didn't know the service interval is 12k, I thought it was 9k so that's a bonus (9k would be a pita for me)
If you don't mind me asking - what is your mpg like and do you just use normal unleaded fuel? Also, have you changed the tyres from the standard ones? I see a lot of owners have gone for BF Goodrrich All-Terrain (215/75/r15) but at the cost of massively (?) increased fuel consumption
I have BFGs on mine and get 40mpg, mostly short town type driving. Not sure on stock mpg, as I swopped them straight awayCorrect re rear seat belts - you can't retrofit them on the commercial. I didn't know the service interval is 12k, I thought it was 9k so that's a bonus (9k would be a pita for me)
If you don't mind me asking - what is your mpg like and do you just use normal unleaded fuel? Also, have you changed the tyres from the standard ones? I see a lot of owners have gone for BF Goodrrich All-Terrain (215/75/r15) but at the cost of massively (?) increased fuel consumption
gravitygravy said:
Thanks. I use normal unleaded, I've tried super but didn't notice any difference in economy.
MPG isn't great, I average 34mpg, but mine is an automatic. People I know with manuals are more in the 38mpg range. On long runs I peak at about 39mpg, off-road or grinding up alpine switchbacks it can drop to 28mpg. I run Yokohama G015 215/75R15 A/T tyres, which are each 4kg heavier than the stock Bridgestone Duelers and dropped my mpg by 1 or 2 over stock. Still lighter than the BFGs of the same size! When these eventually wear out I'll probably stick to the Yokohamas but drop back to the stock 195/80R15 size, which are a non-LT (light truck) version with lighter construction and lower load rating, so hopefully I'll regain some economy.
Section from the user manual on service intervals:
Brill - and thank you for posting image of service intervals MPG isn't great, I average 34mpg, but mine is an automatic. People I know with manuals are more in the 38mpg range. On long runs I peak at about 39mpg, off-road or grinding up alpine switchbacks it can drop to 28mpg. I run Yokohama G015 215/75R15 A/T tyres, which are each 4kg heavier than the stock Bridgestone Duelers and dropped my mpg by 1 or 2 over stock. Still lighter than the BFGs of the same size! When these eventually wear out I'll probably stick to the Yokohamas but drop back to the stock 195/80R15 size, which are a non-LT (light truck) version with lighter construction and lower load rating, so hopefully I'll regain some economy.
Section from the user manual on service intervals:
Snozzer said:
I have BFGs on mine and get 40mpg, mostly short town type driving. Not sure on stock mpg, as I swopped them straight away
40 mpg with BFGs is better than I thought it would manage - thank youGreatScott2016 said:
Always had a soft spot for the baby "defender". Makes me smile everytime I see one, albeit they seem to be a rare sight 
It's not a baby Defender.... the Jimny has been about for over 50 years 
it is a baby Jeep if anything. The clue given in the naming such as LJ and SJ 
Wren-went said:
Love the mk4 Jimmy but just can't get my head round how expensive they are buyers that bought them new have really dropped on .
While reading this article I was thinking why don't they stick a hybrid motor in them and start importing them again by the time I'd gone through this Jimny article that's adsatly what Suzuki are doing or give us the Kei version it's adsatly the same size inside and if they were cheaper I would definitely buy 1, owners must love jimnys someone on the cul-de-sac I live on had an 02 MK3 and they now have a 14 plate she's an old girl that owns it so guess it only pops to the shops and back..
Are they expensive?While reading this article I was thinking why don't they stick a hybrid motor in them and start importing them again by the time I'd gone through this Jimny article that's adsatly what Suzuki are doing or give us the Kei version it's adsatly the same size inside and if they were cheaper I would definitely buy 1, owners must love jimnys someone on the cul-de-sac I live on had an 02 MK3 and they now have a 14 plate she's an old girl that owns it so guess it only pops to the shops and back..
Personally I'm didn't they didn't cost more and be out of my price range. But in the UK market the next proper off roader would be a Wrangler and they at about £49,000 and don't really offer a huge amount more.
Mackofthejungle said:
I was very much looking forward to picking up a 3 or 4 year old one. Fat chance of that.
Suzuki are daft. They've got the coolest little city car on sale in the Jimny, and they give us an ancient n/a petrol that will guzzle fuel. They even sold it with a 3 cylinder turbo in Japan didn't they?! Are they deliberately thick?!
They made a total arse of it. Sold hardly any.
The Kei car is less powerful, slower, narrower and generally lower spec. Not sure it would really suit any better. The standard 1.5 will do 39-40mpg on a run with moderate ease. Which for a 'proper' 4x4 is very good IMO, let alone being petrol. A diesel Defender (proper one) or Wrangler won't match the mpg.Suzuki are daft. They've got the coolest little city car on sale in the Jimny, and they give us an ancient n/a petrol that will guzzle fuel. They even sold it with a 3 cylinder turbo in Japan didn't they?! Are they deliberately thick?!
They made a total arse of it. Sold hardly any.
And the Jimny is actually pretty clean. It has lower emissions than almost all of the other 4x4's. It is the stupid EU rules that bugger it up. If it weighed a tonne more, it would put out doubler the emissions and be fine (like all the other 4x4's). But because it is light and pretty low emissions, it gets penalised. Utterly bonkers!!!
Wrangler Co2 = 243 - 251
New Defender Co2 = 216-260
Jimny Co2 = 154-174 !!!!
C70R said:
So, it's...
- Terrible on longer motorway drives
- Got no boot space if you want rear seats
- Poor on fuel
- Not a particularly enjoyable driving experience on the road
Yet you'd still struggle to get one for less than 20k because they are decent off road and a bit cute.
Mad.
Mad or maybe your bullet points are all inaccurate.... - Terrible on longer motorway drives
- Got no boot space if you want rear seats
- Poor on fuel
- Not a particularly enjoyable driving experience on the road
Yet you'd still struggle to get one for less than 20k because they are decent off road and a bit cute.
Mad.
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