RE: Long goodbye for iconic TT | PH Footnote

[redroadster]

A tts with a chip upgrade is close to rs performance, the tt is closer in size to original 911 and I think they are brilliantly packaged a great all weather daily driver too.

[HighwayStar]

CG2020UK said:

Jon556 said:

Hmm, I think you need to work harder on your retorts.

Haldex is FWD based and as a system is inherently heavy and cumbersome - either factor in permanent AWD (which it can’t due to transverse engine) or make a fine handling FWD car (which it can’t because that’s not what Audi do).

Waffle about practicality - no one is overlooking the handling abilities of a Cayman or MX-5 to buy a TT for boot space - if that was a factor you’d buy something else. In other words it’s compromised.

Well, it is a Golf platform regardless of engine, so it kinda is a tarted up Golf.

I would wager a lot of people buy them because it’s an Audi, by definition of it selling well and having pretty universal mediocre abilities. Even the RS version they’ll buy the most expensive version, there will be exceptions but but I bet they’re in the minority.

Oh, and you’re not seriously comparing an M4 edition pricing to this?

As I say, try harder.

I think your being quite ridiculous here.

I actually have to ask have you even driven the Audi TTRS?

Now to be completely realistic a similar mileage and age cayman with similar performance is going to be another £10-15K more expensive. No one is realistically spending £90K on these you be bonkers.

An MX-5 wouldn’t see what way one of these went and I highly doubt any potential TTRS driver is considering an MX5 due to the vast difference in performance and every day usability.

Now how a car that can do 0-60 in 3.7sec and can embarrass super cars point to point is mediocre I don’t know.

Only on Pistonheads could someone say a sports car being capable of driven year round due to AWD, outrun anything point to point, be comfortable, nice to look at, decent boot space and easy to drive be compromised.

Edited by CG2020UK on Friday 25th November 18:16

Edited by CG2020UK on Friday 25th November 18:17

The TTS and RS are both bloody fast cars… I know I have a TTS and I’ve driven the RS on an Audi RS day. For me they are good at what they do best… well made, stylish, nice place to be and making ‘progress’ but… though there is no denying the performance or the numbers for me they lack actuall involvement. Little real engagement. For me they work best as a flexible daily. I’d sell the TTS before my GT4. If I had the spare cash I’d definitely swap the TTS for and RS though. The GT4 doesn’t come between November and March.

[pheonix478]

Unfair maybe and totally based on the sample of one person I know who had one but I always thought of the TT as a sporty car for people who had absolutely no clue about cars.

[Bobtherallyfan]

pheonix478 said:

Unfair maybe and totally based on the sample of one person I know who had one but I always thought of the TT as a sporty car for people who had absolutely no clue about cars.

I’ll balance that….my wife and I enjoyed our MK1 TT thoroughly…..I now drive a 911and a MR2 amoung others. So double the sample size means statistically you are wrong….

[CG2020UK]

HighwayStar said:

The TTS and RS are both bloody fast cars… I know I have a TTS and I’ve driven the RS on an Audi RS day. For me they are good at what they do best… well made, stylish, nice place to be and making ‘progress’ but… though there is no denying the performance or the numbers for me they lack actuall involvement. Little real engagement. For me they work best as a flexible daily. I’d sell the TTS before my GT4. If I had the spare cash I’d definitely swap the TTS for and RS though. The GT4 doesn’t come between November and March.

Totally agree.

I actually find the TTS more fun to drive than the Golf R or S3.

To me they fit that niche of you want something to daily that is a little more special than a hot hatch.

I’d love a GT4 unfortunately the budget didn’t stretch so went for the closest thing I could afford and got an M2.

[paradigital]

Bobtherallyfan said:

I’ll balance that….my wife and I enjoyed our MK1 TT thoroughly…..I now drive a 911and a MR2 amoung others. So double the sample size means statistically you are wrong….

He can triple the sample size with me. My mk1 was bought to go alongside my mk2.5 MX5, for the days I wanted top down motoring with comfort, rather than just handling. The MX5 was great on the B roads and track days, but the TT was better everywhere/everywhen else.

[Court_S]

SuffolkDefender said:

NINETY

THOUSAND

POUNDS

The world has gone mad, and you're along for the ride if you even consider paying that for a TT. Utter madness.

Edited by SuffolkDefender on Friday 25th November 09:55

About the same price as an M3/4 once a few options have been ticked. You can spec a Golf R to £50k these day…..cars are expensive but no one walks in and pays with cash so it’s lately a made up figure.

[Court_S]

D4rez said:

mcelliott said:

Always liked the TT even if it wasn't as rewarding to drive as a Caymen, this looks great but 90k, no thanks, what's the cheapest R8 new now?

They've finished production

And they were a decent chunk more again.

[pheonix478]

paradigital said:

Bobtherallyfan said:

I’ll balance that….my wife and I enjoyed our MK1 TT thoroughly…..I now drive a 911and a MR2 amoung others. So double the sample size means statistically you are wrong….

He can triple the sample size with me. My mk1 was bought to go alongside my mk2.5 MX5, for the days I wanted top down motoring with comfort, rather than just handling. The MX5 was great on the B roads and track days, but the TT was better everywhere/everywhen else.

Sounds like every other Audi. I'd say the same thing about my old S4. Good car, fast, competent but ifyou actually enjoy cars and driving you'll have a real sports car in the garage too.

[HighwayStar]

pheonix478 said:

Unfair maybe and totally based on the sample of one person I know who had one but I always thought of the TT as a sporty car for people who had absolutely no clue about cars.

There are lots of reasons people buy the car they have.
Back in the ‘80s after the usual few 1st cars I had a 205 GTI 1.9, loved that thing. From there Clio 16v and then a 306 GTi-6. After that I was done with hot hatches, along came a mk1 TT, a 225 Quattro.. wonderful thing for what it was. Bags of charm but not as fun as what went before. Then I was stolen. Now I want a Porsche, I can buy one but can I run it. Now is not the time so it’s a TTS. So it was a stepping stone to proper sports cars.
A friend has a TTS S-Tronic. She’s had TVRs, never once uses the paddles.
3 of my friends and me… me and best mate have Caymans and are into cars. The other 2… one has a Boxster, he’s always wanted a Porsche but has no idea about cars and certainly isn’t a ‘driver.’ The other bought a Boxster because… we bought Porsches.
So, some people who buy proper sports cars have absolutely no clue about cars.

[Lavazza1]

I have a Mk1 TT Quattro Sport, alongside a wider collection including Exige V6, GR Yaris, Porsche, RS4 etc. I really enjoy it, great design, 240Bhp and really good interior.
I could do with reducing the number of cars I have, but it's so easy to drive, the cabin is really well resolved, great old fashioned big turbo torque. It's a cool thing.
I appreciate it for what it is, great design, easy to use, cheap to run. It's a properly good car that puts a smile on my face.

[CABC]

Tarted up golf, no matter what the engine. Driven them, didn’t see the point. If I want all weather distance crushing the Audi of choice would be an RS4. Alongside that I’d take a proper sports car. I really like to celebrate the variety of cars and not hate on anything, But really, I can’t see the TT as anything more than style over substance.

[Lavazza1]

I have all of the above, but still enjoy the Mk1 TT QS, but everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[CraigV6]

Mk1 TT QS owner here - early days but a good experience so far.

[oedipus]

As per R8, nailed it from the get go and then spent years making it worse.

[otolith]

Don’t know about hairdressers, the people I knew who bought MK1 TTs were flash gits and had the word “yuppie” not recently gone out of fashion would have been described as such. They were covetable objects, though, if not the driver’s choice.

[Jeanboi]

CraigV6 said:

Mk1 TT QS owner here - early days but a good experience so far.

That looks really nice. The original is the best looker.
I do like the cabin of the latest/final iteration though.

[blue al]

Would need to be able to run a 3+ car garage ( and have a garage) not to have space for recent TTS/ Rs for the performance & practically available at 25–55k for recent low milage cars.

Wife’s ran a Puma and MR2 mk 3 before her TT roadster, as I had the “practical company car” and l also ran R53 mini as my fun car for 10 years, and thick end of 145k, ( I didn’t predict the end of companies car scheme)
I never felt the need to drive the TT when it was free for fun, but equally it was the car we used most often for the airport run, longer trips, family shop etc.

Yes I would far rather pick a lotus, for a 3rd car but they don’t like living out-side, and I didn’t have double/treble the budget for a car We could only use half/quarter of the time.

Yes 90k is a stupidly daft amount to drop on any TT, but I don’t see it as a reason to give the TT a good kicking. Yes it has a platform compromised as a pure sports car, but if the choice is now heading towards electric or mini suv (her indoors now has an E-pace) then the world will be a poorer place without them.

For those with budgets below porkers, 2 doors and if you need a little extra space you have the cooking 2 series and that’s about it…? ( I tried to talk her into a Yaris but she found it too fugly and too compromised inside after Audi interiors, and a Mini gp3 was considered a clowns car)
Hardly any hot hatches now come with only 3 doors, so in our minds they are equally “compromised “
The evergreen mx5 even if it wasn’t so small isn’t really a choice for a all weather 18k pa commuters car.

Edited by blue al on Saturday 26th November 02:49

[Squibble]

Not going to shed any tears on this one. I've never really seen the TT as being anything other than a Golf in drag, which had ever more extravagant surgery to try and gain credibility. I generally have a dim view of Audi anyway, with thier insistence on the design department seemingly using a photo of the A5 and the +/-15% scale setting when they want a new car and the shameless pilfering of Lambo for thier R8. It probably also doesn't help they appear to be the Pitbull of the car world, drawing a "certain type of person" to those four rings which leads to me encountering an inordinate number of overly aggressive upstarts with thier lower rib removed, behind the wheel. I'm sure those who have one like it well enough, but it's not for me. Sorry.

[thompson9745]

TTRS was £51,495 only a coupe of years ago when launched. How on earth is this 90 fecking grand? ! For a feckin’ TT ! Jesus Christ.

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/audi/tt-coupe/...