Vapes and Vauxhalls hatred
Discussion
FiF said:
In part yes, by association, plus the voluminous clouds of whatever. It's just an opinion.
Also you cite getting rid of nicotine, but there are increasing numbers of schoolkids admitting they are addicted to the vapes containing nicotine. Some of them deliver very high levels, extremely addictive. By you vaping you are indirectly encouraging others into a habit which also leads to addiction and littering.
No tars etc but if you want to quit then just effing quit. Easy for me to say, admittedly, having never started. Used to drink, not doing me any good, so quit. Just did it, no ooh I have to have alcohol free or low alcohol, made the decision, bosh.
So opinion unchanged. Sorry. Incidentally was introduced to the term vape w
ker after hearing it used by a number others, so not just me then.
Most vapers don't use vapes that put out "voluminous clouds". These are mostly high wattage devices and users of these don't even include nicotine in their juice because its for a totally different reason they vape.Also you cite getting rid of nicotine, but there are increasing numbers of schoolkids admitting they are addicted to the vapes containing nicotine. Some of them deliver very high levels, extremely addictive. By you vaping you are indirectly encouraging others into a habit which also leads to addiction and littering.
No tars etc but if you want to quit then just effing quit. Easy for me to say, admittedly, having never started. Used to drink, not doing me any good, so quit. Just did it, no ooh I have to have alcohol free or low alcohol, made the decision, bosh.
So opinion unchanged. Sorry. Incidentally was introduced to the term vape w
ker after hearing it used by a number others, so not just me then.School kids would have been addicted to cigarettes in previous years, having them addicted to vapes instead is a much lesser evil and one that can easily be remiedied due to the fact its possible to buy concentrated nicotine and add you own amount to shelf bought juice to help lower your consumption gradually to nothing (like I did 6-7 years ago)
"just quit" is as stupid an argument as saying "just put up with it" to you. Some people vape solely to quit smoking but others just enjoy the ritualistic breathing pattern or flavours or whatever. It's just like having a pint or a donut or a good shag. Ok we will try not to blow it directly in your face any more than we'd chuck a pint in your face or bend the missus over the nearest bar stool as that's just rude (in most cases)
Most of my vapes hardly emit anything visible, some literally nothing visible at all and is lab tested to show any nasties are non existant. Did you know that one of the two major chemicals that make up vape juice (PG) is an effective germicide? Your breath is likely far more offensive than mine to a layman blindfolded observer or scientific test.
The tailpipe of cars that go past your house are having a much bigger effect but because you don't see those you go after the mostly harmless elf bars.
You talk about addiction while you near your 43k post on PistonHeads (That's 6 posts a day for 20 years) and assign people the title "vape w
kers" like you are the arbiter of what's decent and accepted. Based on this I can't imagine you have had enough people around you at any one time for vaping to have been an issue honestly.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
A vauxhall I can abide but not vaping or smoking. You wouldn't go into a chemical factory and breath deep in any vapours present so why do it in your home, car, work, bed.
What an odd argument. "You wouldn't breathe go to a factory and breathe in chlorine gas so why would you breathe in vg/pg vapour?" I know you've not serious but that's like saying you wouldn't go into a petrol station and down liters of biofuel so why would you drink vodka?
As an aside people do go and huff big amounts of vape chemicals in the form of smoke machines at partys and concerts* and they don't get all angry that some b
ds gone and ruined their beautiful clean air. -*they are a thing for people with social lives and friends. You know... Friends? They are people that want to spend time with you. No? Ahh forget it.
Edited by 457892345 on Sunday 19th March 13:08
FiF said:
Bull-shine.
The physical, cognitive and life changing decision making functions as a consequence are not comparable, not even in the same town never mind street or page.
And as you've highlighted not actually using the word impossible that's tantamount to admitting it is possible,just that you choose not to. Which is your choice, true, will still be judged for it though. Tough tit.
You're just using that supposed addiction equivalence as a pathetic little crutch in justification for your habit. No truck with it. Be on your way, along with that cloud of whatever it is vapour if that keeps you happy.
Wow, what a nasty piece of work you are.The physical, cognitive and life changing decision making functions as a consequence are not comparable, not even in the same town never mind street or page.
And as you've highlighted not actually using the word impossible that's tantamount to admitting it is possible,just that you choose not to. Which is your choice, true, will still be judged for it though. Tough tit.
You're just using that supposed addiction equivalence as a pathetic little crutch in justification for your habit. No truck with it. Be on your way, along with that cloud of whatever it is vapour if that keeps you happy.
LuS1fer said:
The mystery about vapes is that cigarettes used to be portrayed as "cool" in films with Hollywood perpetrating that myth. Vapes look about as cool as a kid sucking a lolly but smelling worse.
Not aimed at you, because it's been mentioned numerous times, but I'm never under any illusion that my device makes me look cool. Wacky Racer said:
Vauxhall's have always had a bum rap on here since the year dot....very strange.
I have had around six new ones, and three or four second hand ones, never had a bit of trouble....always good service from the dealers etc.
Can't comment on the other as i have never smoked,
The only part of an Insignia that I didn't like when I hired one was the bizarre cup holder placement... you couldn't get a cup in and shift gear otherwise it was a comfy and capable mile muncher that did 700miles in a weekend for me. I have had around six new ones, and three or four second hand ones, never had a bit of trouble....always good service from the dealers etc.
Can't comment on the other as i have never smoked,
KurtFlew said:
I've got a 2013 Vivaro works van, it's on 115k...of which 70k is what I've done and it's never had a single problem. Gearbox is a bit loose now but it's been great.
I have a better opinion of someone driving an Insignia than one of the German rental companies.
There's an eBay fix for Vivaro linkages. Cheap too.I have a better opinion of someone driving an Insignia than one of the German rental companies.
KurtFlew said:
I've got a 2013 Vivaro works van, it's on 115k...of which 70k is what I've done and it's never had a single problem. Gearbox is a bit loose now but it's been great.
I have a better opinion of someone driving an Insignia than one of the German rental companies.
I have fond memories of driving vivaros. I preferred them dynamically to how the Transits drove. I have a better opinion of someone driving an Insignia than one of the German rental companies.
carlo996 said:
it doesn't. It marks you out as too weak to give up a stupid habit.
Bore off. Smoking was one of my favourite things, and I went through a tough period coming off them (a powerful drug no less) to be eligible for IVF. There really is no need for cheap insults, that makes you the prick.Hugo Stiglitz said:
The only part of an Insignia that I didn't like when I hired one was the bizarre cup holder placement... you couldn't get a cup in and shift gear otherwise it was a comfy and capable mile muncher that did 700miles in a weekend for me.
We both agree, when we have the occasional Mc'D drive-through, that the cup holder provisions in it are poor. Not enough to stress about mind. Sarah most months will do the 130 mile run to her olds, and she never complains. She much prefers it for this task than her old Rav4. Fermit said:
carlo996 said:
it doesn't. It marks you out as too weak to give up a stupid habit.
Bore off. Smoking was one of my favourite things, and I went through a tough period coming off them (a powerful drug no less) to be eligible for IVF. There really is no need for cheap insults, that makes you the prick.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff