RE: Behold the new Ineos Grenadier pickup

RE: Behold the new Ineos Grenadier pickup

Friday 17th March 2023

Behold the new Ineos Grenadier pickup

Fancy yourself a true outdoorsman? The recently spied Grenadier workhorse ought to sort the men from the boys


Credit where it’s due to Ineos, the company isn’t hanging around. No sooner has the Grenadier 4x4 been launched - and with cars spotted at dealerships by eagle-eyed PHers - than the next model is caught testing. We’re promised a lot from Ineos over the coming years, including a model smaller than the Grenadier, but for now it’s the existing family that will grow. First off, a pickup.

From Ranger Raptor to GR Sport Hilux, the truck is big business in the UK right now, whether for actual commercial use or as an SUV alternative without a little more focus on the ‘U’ part of the name. Don’t expect the Grenadier’s remit to change one little bit with the new bodystyle: it will remain a hardy and capable 4x4 at heart. If anything, a truck plays to the model’s strengths even more keenly, upping the ruggedness further without treading on the toes of the conventional, family-friendly Grenadier. Might even be a bit cheaper, too.

This double cab test car has been photographed in Scandinavia; even against the vast expanses of snowy nothingness, the Grenadier looks absolutely enormous, both load bay and cabin sizeable where the dimensions of one are normally sacrificed for the other.

Clearly, that's the benefit of using the seven-seat model’s longer (3,175mm) wheelbase. Notable as well is the complete lack of disguise, the only giveaway to its prototype status being the ‘Test Vehicle’ font in the rear window. No surprises were expected for the look of an Ineos pickup, of course - but now we have it confirmed, same bluff front end and distinctive taillights marking this out as a does-what-it-says-on-the-tin Grenadier. A single cab is expected to follow in due course.

While not subjected to anything more demanding than the lightest dusting of snow here, the pick-up is expected to boast a similar level of off-road ability as the standard car. The snorkel isn’t going to be there for show, in other words. Power will come from the same range of BMW six-cylinder petrols and diesels as the Grenadier SUV, which will make a nice alternative to the four-cylinder engines so often seen in pickups. Unless you buy silly ones from Ford that want to be desert racers.

No launch date has been confirmed yet, though you'd imagine it can’t be a very long way from production. Regardless, competition will be tough - and typically much more affordable. But the original version has already shown off an intriguing array of talents - don’t be surprised if this one adds a few more.


Images: S.Baldauf/S.B.Medien

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Wadeski

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8,152 posts

213 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Ooof....looks rough from the rear. Lights off a bus!

Double cabs sell well though, they should get this to the US ASAP...

CrunkleFloop

772 posts

245 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I quite like it as a pickup. I wonder if they'll make an armoured version for the more "interesting" clients?

Lotobear

6,277 posts

128 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Grrr Brexit, grrr no market, grrr LR rip off, grrr will never sell, grrr not made in Britain, - am I doing this right?

ChocolateFrog

25,121 posts

173 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Lotobear said:
Grrr Brexit, grrr no market, grrr LR rip off, grrr will never sell, grrr not made in Britain, - am I doing this right?
Not sure but you are the first.

Presumably this one won't have the tax issues for businesses that the 4x4 has.

Mammasaid

3,821 posts

97 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Wadeski said:
Ooof....looks rough from the rear. Lights off a bus!

Double cabs sell well though, they should get this to the US ASAP...
But won't, google 'Chicken Tax'

What's the payload? if it's as heavy as the station wagon, it won't have the 1000kg payload to be classed as a commercial.

S600BSB

4,556 posts

106 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Awful looking thing.

keepherlitbai

24 posts

41 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Can it Roll Coal?

Sulphur Man

225 posts

133 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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This could be winner but those rear lights......... How much design thought went into them? Answer: none.

Lotobear

6,277 posts

128 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Lotobear said:
Grrr Brexit, grrr no market, grrr LR rip off, grrr will never sell, grrr not made in Britain, - am I doing this right?
Not sure but you are the first.

Presumably this one won't have the tax issues for businesses that the 4x4 has.
...ahh yes forgot that one - grrr... VAT for 'business' users


...but, both side windows are now the same height - it's has to be a winner for sure!

Kerching

27 posts

93 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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CrunkleFloop said:
I quite like it as a pickup. I wonder if they'll make an armoured version for the more "interesting" clients?
I doubt it, Toyota with a vast spread of versions of Land Cruiser have got the market to themselves pretty much and at a price point that Grenadier would find hard to match. You might find the likes of Streit or Ultimate might do a version, but again they go for products that are based on the F150. Not sure where the attraction is to up armour a Grenadier.

Silvanus

5,203 posts

23 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Looks an absolute dogs dinner.

Lotobear

6,277 posts

128 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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It's almost a full house on Grenadier bingo this afternoon

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,447 posts

223 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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If it was Chinese we’d be saying it’s a cheap knock off Landy.

robemcdonald

8,762 posts

196 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Behold. Another ph article exclaiming behold!

spikyone

1,450 posts

100 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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robemcdonald said:
Behold. Another ph article exclaiming behold!
Was just going to say the same thing. There’s a headline like that virtually every week. Ripping off Jeremy Clarkson circa 2006 wasn’t imaginative the first time…

Lotobear

6,277 posts

128 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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spikyone said:
robemcdonald said:
Behold. Another ph article exclaiming behold!
Was just going to say the same thing. There’s a headline like that virtually every week. Ripping off Jeremy Clarkson circa 2006 wasn’t imaginative the first time…
I think you're missing the point - PH have obviously picked up on the thread the other week and are doing it deliberately to wind up/for reasons of irony which is actually quite funny

Numeric

1,395 posts

151 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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If these have a 1 tonne payload I hope someone at Ineos has the bottle to price these low to build market share rather then proclaim them better than competitors and price accordingly.

One of the kickers for new brands (and sooo many new models) is how the pricing is positioned against established competitors, leading to low volumes, high marginal costs at the factory and price increases designed to offset the increased costs caused by overly high pricing in the first place.

Get the volume up with marginal pricing, build a reputation, network and brand awareness and then raise pricing once you are considered desirable. Imagine these for say 12.5% below Hilux for similar vehicles? Keep the basic vehicle simple and let people blow the budget on options?

There seemed to be a lot of comment in the station wagon thread about pricing but those vehicles seemed to be high spec, not sure there were options for a simple version, but with the pickup maybe they will give us that affordable entry point to the brand, after all do we really need much more than aircon and cruise (I know, do we even need those? They happen to be my go to items but maybe not everyones?)

NomduJour

19,075 posts

259 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Numeric said:
Imagine these for say 12.5% below Hilux for similar vehicles
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Darnoc95

432 posts

30 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Dont tell me let me guess! The wheel base is exactly 130 inch. Wonder where they got that idea from?getmecoat

Alpenus

123 posts

30 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I think it’s a bit gopping and leaves me cold, not much want for one of these, I’ll take a defender with steel wheels

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