RE: Peugeot 306 GTI-6 | Spotted
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Rod200SX said:
Wouldn't be my first choice of colour but looks mint. That dealers local to me and often has interested stuff in, can be quite expensive but mostly for good reason.
It does indeed look mint, but in the under the bonnet shots the area around the top mounts looks worrying. Hopefully just superficial......I had a 306 XSi for a couple of years and the handling balance was brilliant. Flicking out the rear and tucking in the nose mid corner required nothing more than a brief lift off the throttle. Aesthetically, they’ve aged far better than their contemporaries.
I would love a three-door XSi or GTI-6 in blue to tuck away in the garage for nostalgic drives.
I would love a three-door XSi or GTI-6 in blue to tuck away in the garage for nostalgic drives.
Had 2 gti-6’s a blaze yellow and a Diablo red in the mid/late 00’s
Fantastic cars taught me how to properly drive and had many a fun time in them.
I spent my weekends hanging out at meets/events/shows with either the 306gti6.com or 106owners (my mate ran the club and it sorta looked like a big 106) and that is not nearly as sad as it sounds.
I’d have one for the nostalgia … but I wouldn’t pay 10k for it!
Fantastic cars taught me how to properly drive and had many a fun time in them.
I spent my weekends hanging out at meets/events/shows with either the 306gti6.com or 106owners (my mate ran the club and it sorta looked like a big 106) and that is not nearly as sad as it sounds.
I’d have one for the nostalgia … but I wouldn’t pay 10k for it!
NGK210 said:
Behold! The Most Overrated Hot Hatch, Ever. (Maybe..?)
Sampled several GTi-6s in 2003, all with c.45k miles.
Yes, they looked cool, the 6-speed ‘box was a great USP and the handling / ride was great. But…
The steering felt inconsistent, bodyshells flexed, the cabins were self-disassembling, and despite pukka FSHs, all the engines generally felt shagged.
Then tried some Mk3 16Vs (ie, the real GTI w/ 150bhp). Sure, they’re fugly inside and out, only has a 5-speed ‘box and cheapo OEM springs / dampers. But…
Engines with 70k still felt fresh and revved sweetly, bodyshell stiffer, steering consistent, cabins rattle-free, and the so-called ‘lardy GTI’ was actually c.80kg lighter than a GTi-6.
FWIW, I went for a Mk3 16V. But fitted a Bilstein kit that was more supple with less roll compared to OEM.
Slightly biased here, admittedly. However not entirely feeling the inconsistent steering or shagged engines, they are fairly robust little things however the rear axle is one to watch out for and will change the feel of the car significantly. Mine is rapidly approaching 205k and im reluctant to move it on,Sampled several GTi-6s in 2003, all with c.45k miles.
Yes, they looked cool, the 6-speed ‘box was a great USP and the handling / ride was great. But…
The steering felt inconsistent, bodyshells flexed, the cabins were self-disassembling, and despite pukka FSHs, all the engines generally felt shagged.
Then tried some Mk3 16Vs (ie, the real GTI w/ 150bhp). Sure, they’re fugly inside and out, only has a 5-speed ‘box and cheapo OEM springs / dampers. But…
Engines with 70k still felt fresh and revved sweetly, bodyshell stiffer, steering consistent, cabins rattle-free, and the so-called ‘lardy GTI’ was actually c.80kg lighter than a GTi-6.
FWIW, I went for a Mk3 16V. But fitted a Bilstein kit that was more supple with less roll compared to OEM.
rallycross said:
Great to drive had many of these back in the day, still looks a very fresh design even today.
Have to say this was probably the worst colour when selling them they had to be cheaper and even then were hard work to shift - yuk is one word I'd use for this colour!
Phase 3 car in moonstone grey would be the one to get (not sure of the real name for that colour).
Or, find a really clean late model Xsara 16v phase 2 pretty much the same car but better suspension and should be a whole lot cheaper (lacks 6th gear but found the xsara better on track.
We had a phase 1 Xsara VTS BITD in Bora Bora Green - you weren't losing that in a car park! Unfortunately I think all the early Xsara VTSs have melted into oblivion (ours came pre-rusted under the bonnet at 3 years old!) and I can't get on with the bug-eyed looks of the phase 2 (nor the atrocious multiplex wiring). The lack of a 6th gear meant the Xsara wasn't so restricted for steering lock, and it was also a hoot to drive. I remember it being quite stiff ride compared to the GTI-6s I drove around the same time.Have to say this was probably the worst colour when selling them they had to be cheaper and even then were hard work to shift - yuk is one word I'd use for this colour!
Phase 3 car in moonstone grey would be the one to get (not sure of the real name for that colour).
Or, find a really clean late model Xsara 16v phase 2 pretty much the same car but better suspension and should be a whole lot cheaper (lacks 6th gear but found the xsara better on track.
Every so often a topic appears here, opinions on the best cars ever. There's always an interesting array of various cars from people who never owned a 306. Then there's those who owned a 306.
Never had the chance to drive a GTI-6, my early cars were all D-turbo's and were utterly joyous to drive. Sadly my days of car ownership began when 306's were bottoming out of the market, so often were snapped up and driven in to the ground. Or a hedge/tree/innocent piece of street furniture.
All 3 of the D Turbo's I had were meticulously maintained, sadly the first ended up a cat B when someone pulled out on me on a main road, I was lucky to walk away from that one. The other 2 both suffered from rear axle failure and were uneconomical at the time to repair. I wish I'd kept the little black one, I loved that car. Not a spot of body rust on that one, although bushes, bearings and brakes did suffer from tinworm.
Even my golf just doesn't compare to it, but that might just be the nostalgia talking. Those warm summer days, sweeping A and B roads, heading out across wales or the cotswolds. Effortless ability on the hilly bits, be they small windy roads in wales or up the hill at the air balloon near Gloucester.
Modern cars just don't compete, frankly. How peugeot managed to throw away the remarkable 306 and replace it with the tosh that followed is the biggest travesty in motoring (Although I see BMW have said hold my beer and started with those gopping great front grilles).
Never had the chance to drive a GTI-6, my early cars were all D-turbo's and were utterly joyous to drive. Sadly my days of car ownership began when 306's were bottoming out of the market, so often were snapped up and driven in to the ground. Or a hedge/tree/innocent piece of street furniture.
All 3 of the D Turbo's I had were meticulously maintained, sadly the first ended up a cat B when someone pulled out on me on a main road, I was lucky to walk away from that one. The other 2 both suffered from rear axle failure and were uneconomical at the time to repair. I wish I'd kept the little black one, I loved that car. Not a spot of body rust on that one, although bushes, bearings and brakes did suffer from tinworm.
Even my golf just doesn't compare to it, but that might just be the nostalgia talking. Those warm summer days, sweeping A and B roads, heading out across wales or the cotswolds. Effortless ability on the hilly bits, be they small windy roads in wales or up the hill at the air balloon near Gloucester.
Modern cars just don't compete, frankly. How peugeot managed to throw away the remarkable 306 and replace it with the tosh that followed is the biggest travesty in motoring (Although I see BMW have said hold my beer and started with those gopping great front grilles).
Wiccan of Darkness said:
Every so often a topic appears here, opinions on the best cars ever. There's always an interesting array of various cars from people who never owned a 306. Then there's those who owned a 306.
Never had the chance to drive a GTI-6, my early cars were all D-turbo's and were utterly joyous to drive. Sadly my days of car ownership began when 306's were bottoming out of the market, so often were snapped up and driven in to the ground. Or a hedge/tree/innocent piece of street furniture.
All 3 of the D Turbo's I had were meticulously maintained, sadly the first ended up a cat B when someone pulled out on me on a main road, I was lucky to walk away from that one. The other 2 both suffered from rear axle failure and were uneconomical at the time to repair. I wish I'd kept the little black one, I loved that car. Not a spot of body rust on that one, although bushes, bearings and brakes did suffer from tinworm.
Even my golf just doesn't compare to it, but that might just be the nostalgia talking. Those warm summer days, sweeping A and B roads, heading out across wales or the cotswolds. Effortless ability on the hilly bits, be they small windy roads in wales or up the hill at the air balloon near Gloucester.
Modern cars just don't compete, frankly. How peugeot managed to throw away the remarkable 306 and replace it with the tosh that followed is the biggest travesty in motoring (Although I see BMW have said hold my beer and started with those gopping great front grilles).
Well said Never had the chance to drive a GTI-6, my early cars were all D-turbo's and were utterly joyous to drive. Sadly my days of car ownership began when 306's were bottoming out of the market, so often were snapped up and driven in to the ground. Or a hedge/tree/innocent piece of street furniture.
All 3 of the D Turbo's I had were meticulously maintained, sadly the first ended up a cat B when someone pulled out on me on a main road, I was lucky to walk away from that one. The other 2 both suffered from rear axle failure and were uneconomical at the time to repair. I wish I'd kept the little black one, I loved that car. Not a spot of body rust on that one, although bushes, bearings and brakes did suffer from tinworm.
Even my golf just doesn't compare to it, but that might just be the nostalgia talking. Those warm summer days, sweeping A and B roads, heading out across wales or the cotswolds. Effortless ability on the hilly bits, be they small windy roads in wales or up the hill at the air balloon near Gloucester.
Modern cars just don't compete, frankly. How peugeot managed to throw away the remarkable 306 and replace it with the tosh that followed is the biggest travesty in motoring (Although I see BMW have said hold my beer and started with those gopping great front grilles).
I had a 306xsi in the same gold (or piss yellow as my mates said) as the post car.
Utterly, utterly sublime. It was the archetypal flat out everywhere, amazing handling and ride, every drive enjoyable car.
Mine was 1 yr old with 8000 miles when I got it so pretty much as new.
People who slate these either never had one, or never drove a good one.
Its hard to accurately describe what a joy they are.
te of the month goes to you - bravo, if you've not driven one then you don't know what you are talking (sWas lucky enough to drive a few of these around 20’ish years ago and they remain my favourite hot hatch, would have one over a 205 GTI every time. If I had room for another car, one of these would be on my list - not many out here though.
£10k is not small change but compared to what everything else is being advertised for, it doesn’t seem utterly outrageous for one that seems v clean.
And I like the colour!
£10k is not small change but compared to what everything else is being advertised for, it doesn’t seem utterly outrageous for one that seems v clean.
And I like the colour!
PomBstard said:
Was lucky enough to drive a few of these around 20’ish years ago and they remain my favourite hot hatch, would have one over a 205 GTI every time. If I had room for another car, one of these would be on my list - not many out here though.
£10k is not small change but compared to what everything else is being advertised for, it doesn’t seem utterly outrageous for one that seems v clean.
And I like the colour!
Agreed. 306 over 205 for me too. The 205gti was a disappointment when I tried one. Felt like it was made of cardboard. £10k is not small change but compared to what everything else is being advertised for, it doesn’t seem utterly outrageous for one that seems v clean.
And I like the colour!
306 not exactly hewn from granite either, but significantly less tinny. And beautifully balanced chassis more than makes up for it.
If this one isn't rusty then 10k seems fair enough these days. Colour is v far from being the best though. Metallic blue for me please.
Another former Xsi owner here. Was meant to be a temporary company car while waiting for my permanent one to be built. Had it for 6 Months and 25,000 miles. Still one of the best handling/ride cars I’ve ever had. Peugeot really were the experts at getting the ‘flow’.
Must admit that when I handed it back it was pretty flaky. The interior was falling apart and the electrics very erratic. The stiff clutches also got very tiresome. Apparently something to do with cable routing on RHD cars nears the exhaust drying out the grease………they all do that sir.
Must admit that when I handed it back it was pretty flaky. The interior was falling apart and the electrics very erratic. The stiff clutches also got very tiresome. Apparently something to do with cable routing on RHD cars nears the exhaust drying out the grease………they all do that sir.
Pommy said:
Ingegnere Enzo said:
Where has everyone’s sense gone?…it’s a donkey
Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
7 posts in a few years and every one is you slating a car. Your opinion is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
Why not tell us how good the electrics really were (they weren't), how good the build quality was (it wasn't), and how robust the components were (Peugeot)? Thought not.
My XSI was an N reg, so '95/'96. I bought it in '98 or '99 and ran it until '02.
I thought the interior was decent enough quality, it didn't rattle, nothing broke, wore out, or fell off. Nothing mechanical failed either, that I remember, nor were there any electrical problems.
It was built around the time that VW were going all-out on spreading a fake veneer of "quality" on anything you could touch or see, though, perhaps if I'd been willing to consider a Golf I'd have been wowed by the superior plastics.
I thought the interior was decent enough quality, it didn't rattle, nothing broke, wore out, or fell off. Nothing mechanical failed either, that I remember, nor were there any electrical problems.
It was built around the time that VW were going all-out on spreading a fake veneer of "quality" on anything you could touch or see, though, perhaps if I'd been willing to consider a Golf I'd have been wowed by the superior plastics.
popeyewhite said:
Pommy said:
Ingegnere Enzo said:
Where has everyone’s sense gone?…it’s a donkey
Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
7 posts in a few years and every one is you slating a car. Your opinion is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
Why not tell us how good the electrics really were (they weren't), how good the build quality was (it wasn't), and how robust the components were (Peugeot)? Thought not.
Why ruin the nice nostalgia trip that we are all on with these? We all know their short comings, but that doesn't stop us still remembering them fondly I reckon.
The TVR Cerbera that I had was utter crap in truth, but that doesn't stop me looking back fondly at it though for example.
I absolutely loved mine, supple, just fast enough down a B-Road but as many have said, not without their issues.
Heavy clutch due to the cable running alongside the exhaust for a small stretch so any lube in the cable dries out. Not a car to be stuck in stop/start traffic in.
Cam belt every two years or 30k, without fail.
If the top end taps it’s eaten its cambelt at some point and been repaired poorly. Walk away.
Despite the 6th gear they’re not particularly frugal. Around 70mph will be 3,000rpm so not quiet either.
As the article states, they need careful car and attention to keep on top of things. Electrics can go on the Fritz (what 90’s French car doesn’t have electrical problems though?) and every six months, including MOT the list was long. And expensive. Every bill started with a 3 or a 4 which, at the time for me, was very wallet bashing.
The limited lock was on right turns which nearly caught a friend out in a car park where I think she missed the car beside the space by an inch or less.
Great cars though, so compliant and supple but as said above too, can be wayward when pushed, but easy to catch when you’re looking for it or expecting it. Once or twice I wasn’t and nearly ended up in a hedge or on the pavement.
Heavy clutch due to the cable running alongside the exhaust for a small stretch so any lube in the cable dries out. Not a car to be stuck in stop/start traffic in.
Cam belt every two years or 30k, without fail.
If the top end taps it’s eaten its cambelt at some point and been repaired poorly. Walk away.
Despite the 6th gear they’re not particularly frugal. Around 70mph will be 3,000rpm so not quiet either.
As the article states, they need careful car and attention to keep on top of things. Electrics can go on the Fritz (what 90’s French car doesn’t have electrical problems though?) and every six months, including MOT the list was long. And expensive. Every bill started with a 3 or a 4 which, at the time for me, was very wallet bashing.
The limited lock was on right turns which nearly caught a friend out in a car park where I think she missed the car beside the space by an inch or less.
Great cars though, so compliant and supple but as said above too, can be wayward when pushed, but easy to catch when you’re looking for it or expecting it. Once or twice I wasn’t and nearly ended up in a hedge or on the pavement.
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