RE: Peugeot 306 GTI-6 | Spotted
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cerb4.5lee said:
popeyewhite said:
Pommy said:
Ingegnere Enzo said:
Where has everyone’s sense gone?…it’s a donkey
Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
7 posts in a few years and every one is you slating a car. Your opinion is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
Why not tell us how good the electrics really were (they weren't), how good the build quality was (it wasn't), and how robust the components were (Peugeot)? Thought not.
Why ruin the nice nostalgia trip that we are all on with these? We all know their short comings, but that doesn't stop us still remembering them fondly I reckon.
The TVR Cerbera that I had was utter crap in truth, but that doesn't stop me looking back fondly at it though for example.
Probably my favourite hot hatch of all time.
Sublime handling, loads of feel through both the seat and wheel, and unlike almost everything else, especially more recently, they soak up the bumps as well. It's years since I've driven one, but given the deterioration of our road surfaces in that time, I reckon the chassis would make even more sense today than it did then.
Electrics were flaky on them when they were fairly new, so I'd expect to be pretty busy with the multimeter, soldering iron and heatshrink if I ran one today. ISTRC the cambelts were made of camembert on these as well.
I reckon a fit (or refreshed) one of these would still be an absolute joy to drive today.
Sublime handling, loads of feel through both the seat and wheel, and unlike almost everything else, especially more recently, they soak up the bumps as well. It's years since I've driven one, but given the deterioration of our road surfaces in that time, I reckon the chassis would make even more sense today than it did then.
Electrics were flaky on them when they were fairly new, so I'd expect to be pretty busy with the multimeter, soldering iron and heatshrink if I ran one today. ISTRC the cambelts were made of camembert on these as well.
I reckon a fit (or refreshed) one of these would still be an absolute joy to drive today.
Limpet said:
Probably my favourite hot hatch of all time.
Sublime handling, loads of feel through both the seat and wheel, and unlike almost everything else, especially more recently, they soak up the bumps as well. It's years since I've driven one, but given the deterioration of our road surfaces in that time, I reckon the chassis would make even more sense today than it did then.
Electrics were flaky on them when they were fairly new, so I'd expect to be pretty busy with the multimeter, soldering iron and heatshrink if I ran one today. ISTRC the cambelts were made of camembert on these as well.
I reckon a fit (or refreshed) one of these would still be an absolute joy to drive today.
Belts were quoted as 36k or three years by Peugeot, quite a short lifespan compared to most other cars. Some were even known to go before then so most say every two years or 30k miles.Sublime handling, loads of feel through both the seat and wheel, and unlike almost everything else, especially more recently, they soak up the bumps as well. It's years since I've driven one, but given the deterioration of our road surfaces in that time, I reckon the chassis would make even more sense today than it did then.
Electrics were flaky on them when they were fairly new, so I'd expect to be pretty busy with the multimeter, soldering iron and heatshrink if I ran one today. ISTRC the cambelts were made of camembert on these as well.
I reckon a fit (or refreshed) one of these would still be an absolute joy to drive today.
popeyewhite said:
cerb4.5lee said:
popeyewhite said:
Pommy said:
Ingegnere Enzo said:
Where has everyone’s sense gone?…it’s a donkey
Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
7 posts in a few years and every one is you slating a car. Your opinion is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
Why not tell us how good the electrics really were (they weren't), how good the build quality was (it wasn't), and how robust the components were (Peugeot)? Thought not.
Why ruin the nice nostalgia trip that we are all on with these? We all know their short comings, but that doesn't stop us still remembering them fondly I reckon.
The TVR Cerbera that I had was utter crap in truth, but that doesn't stop me looking back fondly at it though for example.
I've never actually had one, but I have really fond memories of reading about them in magazines though back then. The owners of them always seem to sing their praises as well. It was a great time back then I reckon.
cerb4.5lee said:
popeyewhite said:
cerb4.5lee said:
popeyewhite said:
Pommy said:
Ingegnere Enzo said:
Where has everyone’s sense gone?…it’s a donkey
Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
7 posts in a few years and every one is you slating a car. Your opinion is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
Why not tell us how good the electrics really were (they weren't), how good the build quality was (it wasn't), and how robust the components were (Peugeot)? Thought not.
Why ruin the nice nostalgia trip that we are all on with these? We all know their short comings, but that doesn't stop us still remembering them fondly I reckon.
The TVR Cerbera that I had was utter crap in truth, but that doesn't stop me looking back fondly at it though for example.
I've never actually had one, but I have really fond memories of reading about them in magazines though back then. The owners of them always seem to sing their praises as well. It was a great time back then I reckon.
To be fair I also thought the ashtray comment was amusing. I haven't driven a 306 GTI but I have had the unfortunate task of dealing with people who have crashed them.
For that reason alone I wouldn't touch one. If I was to risk my ass in the search of ultimate thrills I'd go all out and get another 2 wheeled bolide.
cerb4.5lee said:
popeyewhite said:
Pommy said:
Ingegnere Enzo said:
Where has everyone’s sense gone?…it’s a donkey
Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
7 posts in a few years and every one is you slating a car. Your opinion is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.Crap electrics, crap build quality and crap components
Why not tell us how good the electrics really were (they weren't), how good the build quality was (it wasn't), and how robust the components were (Peugeot)? Thought not.
Why ruin the nice nostalgia trip that we are all on with these? We all know their short comings, but that doesn't stop us still remembering them fondly I reckon.
The TVR Cerbera that I had was utter crap in truth, but that doesn't stop me looking back fondly at it though for example.
He must have missed the text below, but to add my electrics never failed, build quality was decent to say it got absolutely smashed for 3 years.
Wiccan of Darkness said:
Every so often a topic appears here, opinions on the best cars ever. There's always an interesting array of various cars from people who never owned a 306. Then there's those who owned a 306.
Never had the chance to drive a GTI-6, my early cars were all D-turbo's and were utterly joyous to drive. Sadly my days of car ownership began when 306's were bottoming out of the market, so often were snapped up and driven in to the ground. Or a hedge/tree/innocent piece of street furniture.
All 3 of the D Turbo's I had were meticulously maintained, sadly the first ended up a cat B when someone pulled out on me on a main road, I was lucky to walk away from that one. The other 2 both suffered from rear axle failure and were uneconomical at the time to repair. I wish I'd kept the little black one, I loved that car. Not a spot of body rust on that one, although bushes, bearings and brakes did suffer from tinworm.
Even my golf just doesn't compare to it, but that might just be the nostalgia talking. Those warm summer days, sweeping A and B roads, heading out across wales or the cotswolds. Effortless ability on the hilly bits, be they small windy roads in wales or up the hill at the air balloon near Gloucester.
Modern cars just don't compete, frankly. How peugeot managed to throw away the remarkable 306 and replace it with the tosh that followed is the biggest travesty in motoring (Although I see BMW have said hold my beer and started with those gopping great front grilles).
Well said Never had the chance to drive a GTI-6, my early cars were all D-turbo's and were utterly joyous to drive. Sadly my days of car ownership began when 306's were bottoming out of the market, so often were snapped up and driven in to the ground. Or a hedge/tree/innocent piece of street furniture.
All 3 of the D Turbo's I had were meticulously maintained, sadly the first ended up a cat B when someone pulled out on me on a main road, I was lucky to walk away from that one. The other 2 both suffered from rear axle failure and were uneconomical at the time to repair. I wish I'd kept the little black one, I loved that car. Not a spot of body rust on that one, although bushes, bearings and brakes did suffer from tinworm.
Even my golf just doesn't compare to it, but that might just be the nostalgia talking. Those warm summer days, sweeping A and B roads, heading out across wales or the cotswolds. Effortless ability on the hilly bits, be they small windy roads in wales or up the hill at the air balloon near Gloucester.
Modern cars just don't compete, frankly. How peugeot managed to throw away the remarkable 306 and replace it with the tosh that followed is the biggest travesty in motoring (Although I see BMW have said hold my beer and started with those gopping great front grilles).
I had a 306xsi in the same gold (or piss yellow as my mates said) as the post car.
Utterly, utterly sublime. It was the archetypal flat out everywhere, amazing handling and ride, every drive enjoyable car.
Mine was 1 yr old with 8000 miles when I got it so pretty much as new.
People who slate these either never had one, or never drove a good one.
Its hard to accurately describe what a joy they are.
FishOutOfWater said:
Had 2 gti-6’s a blaze yellow and a Diablo red in the mid/late 00’s
Fantastic cars taught me how to properly drive and had many a fun time in them.
I spent my weekends hanging out at meets/events/shows with either the 306gti6.com or 106owners (my mate ran the club and it sorta looked like a big 106) and that is not nearly as sad as it sounds.
I’d have one for the nostalgia … but I wouldn’t pay 10k for it!
Wasn’t it Dom who had the Blaze one ? Traded it for an Audi TT 3.2.Fantastic cars taught me how to properly drive and had many a fun time in them.
I spent my weekends hanging out at meets/events/shows with either the 306gti6.com or 106owners (my mate ran the club and it sorta looked like a big 106) and that is not nearly as sad as it sounds.
I’d have one for the nostalgia … but I wouldn’t pay 10k for it!
Did you ever go to the Rolling Road days in the West Midlands ?
There was also a track day at Oulton Park
otolith said:
My XSI was an N reg, so '95/'96. I bought it in '98 or '99 and ran it until '02.
I thought the interior was decent enough quality, it didn't rattle, nothing broke, wore out, or fell off. Nothing mechanical failed either, that I remember, nor were there any electrical problems.
It was built around the time that VW were going all-out on spreading a fake veneer of "quality" on anything you could touch or see, though, perhaps if I'd been willing to consider a Golf I'd have been wowed by the superior plastics.
Did it have the keypad immobiliser and the stereo controlled by a stalk ?I thought the interior was decent enough quality, it didn't rattle, nothing broke, wore out, or fell off. Nothing mechanical failed either, that I remember, nor were there any electrical problems.
It was built around the time that VW were going all-out on spreading a fake veneer of "quality" on anything you could touch or see, though, perhaps if I'd been willing to consider a Golf I'd have been wowed by the superior plastics.
I recall my stereo wouldn’t work in the cold !
Downward said:
otolith said:
My XSI was an N reg, so '95/'96. I bought it in '98 or '99 and ran it until '02.
I thought the interior was decent enough quality, it didn't rattle, nothing broke, wore out, or fell off. Nothing mechanical failed either, that I remember, nor were there any electrical problems.
It was built around the time that VW were going all-out on spreading a fake veneer of "quality" on anything you could touch or see, though, perhaps if I'd been willing to consider a Golf I'd have been wowed by the superior plastics.
Did it have the keypad immobiliser and the stereo controlled by a stalk ?I thought the interior was decent enough quality, it didn't rattle, nothing broke, wore out, or fell off. Nothing mechanical failed either, that I remember, nor were there any electrical problems.
It was built around the time that VW were going all-out on spreading a fake veneer of "quality" on anything you could touch or see, though, perhaps if I'd been willing to consider a Golf I'd have been wowed by the superior plastics.
I recall my stereo wouldn’t work in the cold !
Downward said:
FishOutOfWater said:
Had 2 gti-6’s a blaze yellow and a Diablo red in the mid/late 00’s
Fantastic cars taught me how to properly drive and had many a fun time in them.
I spent my weekends hanging out at meets/events/shows with either the 306gti6.com or 106owners (my mate ran the club and it sorta looked like a big 106) and that is not nearly as sad as it sounds.
I’d have one for the nostalgia … but I wouldn’t pay 10k for it!
Wasn’t it Dom who had the Blaze one ? Traded it for an Audi TT 3.2.Fantastic cars taught me how to properly drive and had many a fun time in them.
I spent my weekends hanging out at meets/events/shows with either the 306gti6.com or 106owners (my mate ran the club and it sorta looked like a big 106) and that is not nearly as sad as it sounds.
I’d have one for the nostalgia … but I wouldn’t pay 10k for it!
Did you ever go to the Rolling Road days in the West Midlands ?
There was also a track day at Oulton Park
Friend of mine briefly had 1 he loved a 205 GTi he had at least 5 in the late 80s & 90s. But didn't rate it at all , at the time I had my only ever brand new car a 51 plate MK4 GT TDI 150 Golf and that seemed quicker or my mate thought.iit was.
This is by far the worst colour what is it Jewish yellow
10 grand wow doesn't so long ago you could find a reasonable GTI-6 for a grandish. If I'd only bought all the cars even 1s I didn't rate and put them away I'd be a millionaire with how classic car prices have gone. Certainly my H reg Astra GTE 16V , J reg Cavalier Gsi 2000 and 53 plate Clio 182. Wish I'd kept them for a rainy day. Admittedly 182 isn't worth that much but I wouldn't get 1 for what I sold it for.
This is by far the worst colour what is it Jewish yellow
10 grand wow doesn't so long ago you could find a reasonable GTI-6 for a grandish. If I'd only bought all the cars even 1s I didn't rate and put them away I'd be a millionaire with how classic car prices have gone. Certainly my H reg Astra GTE 16V , J reg Cavalier Gsi 2000 and 53 plate Clio 182. Wish I'd kept them for a rainy day. Admittedly 182 isn't worth that much but I wouldn't get 1 for what I sold it for.
adambcvg said:
Downward said:
Blaze Yellow Phase 3 isn’t it ?
Will come up nice with a polish
Although I’m sure the strips on the side and bottom of the boot weren’t on phase 3’s.
It's a phase 2 with crystal headlights. Not a vast difference between them and they tended to be a bit random with trim anyway.Will come up nice with a polish
Although I’m sure the strips on the side and bottom of the boot weren’t on phase 3’s.
Edited by Downward on Wednesday 22 March 15:50
It's a phase 2.5 or parts bin special. Round fogs and crystals form the phase 3 front end, phase 2 tailgate and wiper arm at the back.
Bought my S-reg 306 GTI-6 in 2017 at 128k. It's been my main car and is currently on 183k. It's a tatty example that gets used pretty much every day all year round. It's been utterly dependable. Difficult to put into words but it's one of those rare cars that just feels "right".
I don't think of it as a 25-year-old car and intend to continue using it as my commuter indefinitely.
I don't think of it as a 25-year-old car and intend to continue using it as my commuter indefinitely.
tvrfan007 said:
adambcvg said:
Downward said:
Blaze Yellow Phase 3 isn’t it ?
Will come up nice with a polish
Although I’m sure the strips on the side and bottom of the boot weren’t on phase 3’s.
It's a phase 2 with crystal headlights. Not a vast difference between them and they tended to be a bit random with trim anyway.Will come up nice with a polish
Although I’m sure the strips on the side and bottom of the boot weren’t on phase 3’s.
Edited by Downward on Wednesday 22 March 15:50
It's a phase 2.5 or parts bin special. Round fogs and crystals form the phase 3 front end, phase 2 tailgate and wiper arm at the back.
Adored mine. So fluid and well damped on a bumpy road.
Back in 1998/1999 everyone reckoned the new Ford Focus had chnaged the game for chassis and suspension setup on B segment cars.
Ford had made the Focus competent, controlled and safe. But the 306 had been doing 'fun' for a lot longer, and it was much better to drive when pushing on.
Back in 1998/1999 everyone reckoned the new Ford Focus had chnaged the game for chassis and suspension setup on B segment cars.
Ford had made the Focus competent, controlled and safe. But the 306 had been doing 'fun' for a lot longer, and it was much better to drive when pushing on.
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