RE: Maserati 4200 Spyder | Spotted

RE: Maserati 4200 Spyder | Spotted

Thursday 23rd March 2023

Maserati 4200 Spyder | Spotted

Italian V8, manual 'box, sublime styling - all for fast supermini money...


A few days ago I wrote about an Alfa Romeo 8C and, to be honest, I was expecting something more than the lukewarm reception it received. I thought everyone would’ve been bowled over by the splendour of the 8C Spider, but no. It just goes to show you cannot please all of the people all of the time. Not one to give up, though, I am sticking with the Italian drop-top V8 blueprint. It’s time for round two, and I reckon this one’s as enthralling to feast your peepers on, but with a cut-price budget to go with it. That’s the plan, anyway.

It’s a 2002 Maserati 4200 Spyder with a manual ‘box, and it rather jumped out of the screen when I saw the advert. Castle Motors, which is where you’ll find this particular car for sale, has managed to pick the perfect day to snap it because look: there’s some blue sky. That’s a rare treat at the moment, and it doesn’t ‘alf make the metallic magenta paintwork pop – I believe that’s the current lingo for what I am talking about. Whatever its colour, the 4200 Spyder is a bit of a looker. The 2,440mm wheelbase was 220mm shorter than the 4200 coupé, and while that meant losing the surprisingly practical rear seats, its sexy, trimmed-down silhouette more than makes up for it. 

Of course, you could go for a Jaguar XK8 instead – I’m thinking about the X100, which was a contemporary – or an XKR if you want to match the power. That offers some degree of four-seat ability, even if the X100’s seats are next to useless for human beings. They are as upright and almost as uncomfortable as a church pew, but you can use them for luggage at least. I’d still take the 4200 every time, though, for two reasons. Firstly, its naturally aspirated F136 V8 engine is so much more characterful than the XKR’s supercharged AJ-V8. It delivers one of the most intoxicating V8 sounds going, without resorting to silly theatrics to make it sound ‘better’ like the modern-day stuff. It’s also a ferocious engine when it comes to revs, not just belting round to its red line with an eagerness than the AJ-V8 can’t hope to match, but ultimately revving much higher. Peak power comes in at 7,000rpm and the red line isn’t until 7,500rpm.

The other reason I much prefer the 4200 Spyder goes back to those looks. The X100 is a tidy-looking thing, but Geoff Lawson’s design was always compromised by running the old XJS’s platform and the desire to offer Americans a big boot for their golf clubs. And it’s always bothered me that, as a consequence, the hood didn’t sit flush and had to be covered by a vinyl tonneau cover. Fitting that was a faff involving poppers, and who has the time for those?  Not many people, which is why you’d see XK8s and XKRs driving around with concertinaed scaffolding sticking up behind the driver’s head looking like some unfinished school project. Now compare that with the Spyder’s solution. A fully automatic hood that folds neatly away under an electrically operated cover. So much quicker and easier to use, and a whole lot easier on the eye to boot.

What are Spyders like to drive? Well, it’s been a long time since I’ve driven one – I reckon about 20 years give or take – and I am recalling the experience using a brain that’s shedding cells fast. It’s all a bit vague, if I am honest, but I remember the Spyder suffering from a dose of the dreaded scuttle shake. Was it noticeably worse than an X100, or an R129 SL for that matter? Maybe; maybe not. I just can’t say for sure because it’s been so long since I’ve driven either of those two models as well. The other thing that comes to my mind concerns the gearbox. The traditional view is nearly always that ‘manual is best’ and that the Cambiocorsa gearbox in these Massas was a ’rotter’. The thing is, I don’t remember the manual shift in these or the pedal arrangement being that brilliant, and I definitely preferred the automated manuals – that will cause a few gasps, no doubt. Does that mean I'm put off this one? No, I don’t think so, especially because all 4200s, Spyder included, had wonderfully quick steering and a rear-drive chassis that was well up for some tail-out fun without feeling spiky. It was one of the sportier convertibles in its day, that's for sure.

So there we have it. This might not have the rarity of an Alfa 8C but, compared with its immediate rivals from back in 2002, it’s still one hell of an exclusive machine. And also still so pretty, even now. It really hasn’t aged in terms of the overall shape or the details. As good looking as the 8C? Well, judging by the reaction to that, I am going to wager you think it's even better. And on reflection, I don’t think you’d be wrong to think that, either - and my choice this time will cost you £22,000 instead of a quarter of a million. Surely this time I'm on to a winner?


Specification | Maserati 4200 Spyder

Engine: 4,244cc, V8, naturally aspirated
Transmission: six-speed manual, rear-wheel drive 
Power (hp): 385 @ 7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 332 @ 4,500rpm
CO2: 430g/km
MPG: 15.2
Recorded mileage: 46,000
Year registered: 2002 
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £22,750

See the original advert here

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mersontheperson

Original Poster:

701 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Noice! But seems very expensive. More of a 10-14k car I would have thought

The Wookie

13,942 posts

228 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Drove one of these back in the day, it sounded fab and it looked great but it was more wobbly than a fat bloke on a pneumatic drill. The steering column shake was particularly epic.

I like a convertible and that one’s a lovely spec but I’d go for the coupe in this case.

asci.white

371 posts

73 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Worth it for the looks and that engine sound.

el romeral

1,049 posts

137 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I am sure this will be a wonderful car and with the roof down, the soundtrack from that engine, must be incredible. That said, I have always preferred the looks of the coupe over this though. Normally I am a convertible guy and have enjoyed owning one the last 7 years.

ducnick

1,781 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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When the 8c article was posted the other day I thought how similar the 8c and 4200 spyder looked in profile and actually found this very same classified ad. I was invited to hr Owen for the U.K. unveiling of this model when new, and I can tell you it caused quite a stir amount the assembled crowd. I was very taken by the looks of the spyder. It seemed much better proportioned than the longer coupe.
However for £22k, you could pick up a nice late xkr convertible which not only looks fantastic, but is a more modern and far better car. It would be a brave choice to buy this maserati over the jag or even a more modern grantourisimo I think.
On the other hand the colour scheme on this one is nice and will appeal to the older generation of traditional maserati gt fan which will help it sell. Shame they never made the spyder with a proper maserati engine and boomerang lights. These Ferrari sourced engines are great for Ferraris or alfas but they deliver the power too high up and too noisily for a maserati which should be a bit more subtle. After the 3200 in the qp4, I found the mid range of the 4200 to be a bit of a disappointment in the qp5.

Edited by ducnick on Thursday 23 March 09:06

cerb4.5lee

30,516 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I've always personally preferred the boomerang rear lights to the ones on this, however this will sound lovely and it will feel special to drive and own I reckon. Very nice, and I can imagine myself cruising around roof down in this for sure.

stevie777777

127 posts

175 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Lovely even at that price I think it won’t have an issue finding a buyer & I didn’t know the 4200 could have a manual box!
Quite tempted !

cerb4.5lee

30,516 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I'd imagine this figure "CO2: 430g/km" could send a few of the tree huggers into a spin as well! biggrin

These look good as only a 2 seater I reckon too.

jimmytheone

1,363 posts

218 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
I've always personally preferred the boomerang rear lights to the ones on this, however this will sound lovely and it will feel special to drive and own I reckon. Very nice, and I can imagine myself cruising around roof down in this for sure.
Yeah boomerang lights!
Rear lights on this are dull as ditchwater where the rest of the car looks really good. What the hell were they thinking?

TheOctaneAddict

758 posts

47 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Cracking car to use in the warmer months. Roof down, that engine noise its enough to make you forget the potentially ruinous bills.

British Beef

2,210 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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stevie777777 said:
Lovely even at that price I think it won’t have an issue finding a buyer & I didn’t know the 4200 could have a manual box!
Quite tempted !
Agree, quite expensive, but perfect spec for summertime fun, and an ageless design that will still look nice in 20 years. Last of the manual boxes fitted to any Ferrari or Ferrari derived engine... I think.

jayemm89

4,035 posts

130 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Good looking thing, epic engine that goes well and makes a great noise.

Sadly, ruined by a comically bad amount of scuttle shake. Worse than any other modern convertible I have driven. The Gransport version was allegedly better, but it was a pretty low bar to start from.

ex-devonpaul

1,179 posts

137 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Lovely looking things, not too long ago they were asking £40k+ for these when we had a gransport.

One note of caution is whilst the manual knocks cpots off the Cmbiocorsa for driving, I seem to recall some of the parts are becoming unobtainable. Check out sportsmaserati for more details.

Gecko1978

9,700 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I love these but they are cheap ish for a reason isn't a clutch like 3k and they are about as reliable as a labrador left to guard thr cookie jar.

robsco

7,826 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I had a Cambiocorsa coupe for a while, with Larini back boxes. It was one of the best sounding cars I’ve ever heard. For £13k it was just a total bargain, worth it for the engine alone. The gearbox was rubbish and it did 12mpg regardless of how it was driven… swings and roundabouts.

Almani

16 posts

144 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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You can tell it has that awful 'Italian' driving position by the fact that the seat base is pushed back as far as it will go to provide room for the legs, whilst at the same time the seat back has to be cranked forward in order that you can reach the steering wheel.

I guess Italians must have short legs and long arms - not that I've noticed, which is strange as I live in Italy .......

Pughmacher

369 posts

43 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Gorgeous spec! Beautiful looking machine. But as others have suggested I’d go for a coupe and have the windows down to hear the motor. Then park nose first so when you walk away you see the boomerang rear clusters. Doesn’t get much better than that does it?

nismo48

3,688 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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That's a pretty cool thing..not a bad colour combination too.. thumbup

aestivator

240 posts

30 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Sorry to be that guy, but I think that looks terrible. The rear lights look like they're from a van. The front end looks like a bad mash-up of a Jag and a Fiat. And the reliability is probably a combination of those two as well, despite the lovely noise made by the V8.

£22k is only going to be the start of the costs of owning that...

flukey5

404 posts

60 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Nice left of field choice. Kind of cool but then I can't get over how much the rear looks like an old rover (probably why it wasn't included in the article)

With 430g/km of CO2 this is a great value to "Get Your Money's Worth" when entering the ULEZ zone. I highly recommend removing the cat for even better value for money