RE: Fisker Ocean Extreme promises up to 440 WLTP miles

RE: Fisker Ocean Extreme promises up to 440 WLTP miles

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nismo48

3,688 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Arsecati said:
Damn that's ugly. (In my own opinion of course: other opinions are available.)
+1 wink

pycraft

778 posts

184 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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smilo996 said:
It is a shame that Henrik Fisker of Z8, DB9 and V8 Vantage fame was not blessed with a similar amount of money to bring his first attempts to market like Musk and his fisher price jelly moulds, with silly features.
His first efforts were a real attempt at making cars greener.
As mentioned a few pages back, I really loved the Fisker Karma.

Didn't know the estate version was a thing? Anyway, the problem with the Karma was a combination of unreliability and the fact that they were nowhere near as fast as the looks suggested (whilst it nominally could do 0-60 in 5.9, in was more likely to do it in 7.9 in Stealth Mode). They come up for sale occasionally over here (UAE), but thus far I'm just too wary of running costs and unreliability to take the risk.

https://uae.dubizzle.com/motors/used-cars/fisker/

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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whp1983 said:
As someone else said is there anything else to speculate on car, what it might be like to drive, are they well made, options, specifications etc etc

Just seems with every EV release…. Here is a box, this much distance on a charge, how fast it charges.

Also I think merc EQS claims over 400 (massive money though)
If you go looking there's a lot of info on this car over on Fiskerati.com
https://fiskerati.com/fisker-ocean/race-car-driver...

Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Slitty windows help to make SUVs look cool but what about visibility? Sitting in one of these must be quite a dispiriting experience.

MustangGT

11,629 posts

280 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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We are seriously considering one to replace the PHEV Renegade when it is time to change. Would like a test drive first, my wife is very particular on seats and seating position.

petemurphy

10,120 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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QuattroDave said:
Do tell more. Do you have an expected delivery date? Which model did you go for?

I'm very tempted by one of these to replace my i3 rex but not quite ready to pull the trigger yet!
tbh it was a speculative i love that im sticking £250 down now as its refundable back in december. not heard much since. dont really want a new car till the end of the year anyway but cant wait to see these in the flesh

James6112

4,352 posts

28 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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James6112 said:
Sulphur Man said:
Once more, for those at the back.

An EV makes sense to most prospective customers if:

1) They have access to a company car/salary sacrifice lease schemes that greatly reduce the monthly leasing and taxable BIK

2) They can charge the car without delay or obstruction. Meaning at home, or at a place of work with guaranteed sufficient EV charge capacity.

3) They drive sufficient miles to realise the cost-saving of an EV. It's not realising any 'fuel' saving standing idle - especially if 1) is not available.


Every satisfied EV owner I know has the benefit of 1) and 2). To them 3) doesnt matter.

A few other EV owners I know without 1) still have 2), and have made the decision on environmental grounds/ULEZ access. Their EVs are second cars - there's an ICE on the drive for the long distance stuff. None have felt they've saved any money on EV ownership. They do like the driving experience though and the relatively lower servicing costs.

Owning an ICE or ICE-hybrid car carries a convenience, and predictability that EV-ownership currently cannot match. Unless drivers can get weened off the convenience of ICE, plus EVs get much. much cheaper whilst retaining useful range (not Honda e range), that's not about to change.

As for the used EV market - a disaster. No one really trusts them, least of all dealers. So they're 20% less than petrol equivalents on forecourts, and not finding buyers.

Edited by Sulphur Man on Monday 27th March 17:15
Not so sure about 1)
My salary sacrifice scheme just announced. 40% tax saving, great news! Not.
Makes a Tesla model Y £60 a month cheaper than leasing straight from Tesla
Someone is trousering a fair wedge..
A bit clearer
The prices were at the top end to start with
The company not passing on the NI savings. As the scheme has an overhead to run…
Some must be better than others.
Cheaper to lease privately in my case (even after the supposed 40% tax saving / scam)

jhayward1980

117 posts

214 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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WHAT IS THE BATTERY SIZE?

Man, such lazy journalism. Something has to give. 400miles real range means 100kwh battery with an efficiency of 4miles/kwh. If it's claiming higher than 4 then there are some serious physics at play. Either that or it has a 120kwh battery. And then it'll cost 90k plus just for battery costs.

vikingaero

10,328 posts

169 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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nismo48 said:
Arsecati said:
Damn that's ugly. (In my own opinion of course: other opinions are available.)
+1 wink
+2 wink

Fisker aren't selling an EV. They're selling a set of extra large alloys with an EV plonked on top of it. biggrin

Fast and Spurious

1,321 posts

88 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Undercover McNoName said:
Robigus said:
"Fisker will not be constructing dealerships, rather Experience Centers."

Quite a lot of sick came up when I read that.

Edited by Robigus on Monday 27th March 13:32
Why?
Cos they can't spell centres.

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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jhayward1980 said:
WHAT IS THE BATTERY SIZE?

Man, such lazy journalism. Something has to give. 400miles real range means 100kwh battery with an efficiency of 4miles/kwh. If it's claiming higher than 4 then there are some serious physics at play. Either that or it has a 120kwh battery. And then it'll cost 90k plus just for battery costs.
Fisker hasn't released the battery size but the price is on the configurator - the "release" Edition comes in at the £61k mark - with the 440WLTP which obviously doesn't mean 400 real miles unless you drive in lab conditions!

Compared to other SUV's it's not ugly and seems to have something about it especially when you avoid the 3 spoke wheels which are extra anyway iirc
Decent range - the company car EV we're looking at has 317WLTP claim so you could rightly expect the Ocean to have a real range that's better.
Price point - when you look at the other cars Q4 etron/ BMW IX1 they all end up being more costly with less range.