Bullseye TV Ford Fiesta Top Prize

Bullseye TV Ford Fiesta Top Prize

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Puddenchucker

4,036 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Not sure if this is penny pinching or just clever/prgmatic engineering, but the dashboard on the Rover SD1 was the same for both RHD & LHD cars.
The apeture of the steering column was replced with an air vent on the passenger side.





IIRC, the instrument binacle was also modular so the same components were used for both LHD & RHD, just swaped RH to LH.

blue_haddock

3,143 posts

66 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Puddenchucker said:
Toyota Aygo / Peugeot 107 / Citroën C1 only got one gas strut on the tailgate:

I worked for toyota when the aygo was launched, it was designed from the outset to be cheaply made so seeing as only the glass goes up i would say this is actually an example of good design.

Kuwahara

819 posts

17 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Puddenchucker said:
Not sure if this is penny pinching or just clever/prgmatic engineering, but the dashboard on the Rover SD1 was the same for both RHD & LHD cars.
The apeture of the steering column was replced with an air vent on the passenger side.





IIRC, the instrument binacle was also modular so the same components were used for both LHD & RHD, just swaped RH to LH.
Clever design,original Picasso was the same…

Dog Star

16,079 posts

167 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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blue_haddock said:
I worked for toyota when the aygo was launched, it was designed from the outset to be cheaply made so seeing as only the glass goes up i would say this is actually an example of good design.
Great little cars, IMO. They aren’t “cheap”, imo. They’re “inexpensive”.

Another detail - the electric windows - you only have a switch for the passenger window on the passenger door so you have to lean across to operate it if you’re the driver.

Another thing I remember about my Fiesta Pop + was the seats - non reclining; in fact no back adjustment whatsoever.

blue_haddock

3,143 posts

66 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Dog Star said:
blue_haddock said:
I worked for toyota when the aygo was launched, it was designed from the outset to be cheaply made so seeing as only the glass goes up i would say this is actually an example of good design.
Great little cars, IMO. They aren’t “cheap”, imo. They’re “inexpensive”.

Another detail - the electric windows - you only have a switch for the passenger window on the passenger door so you have to lean across to operate it if you’re the driver.

Another thing I remember about my Fiesta Pop + was the seats - non reclining; in fact no back adjustment whatsoever.
The phrase i remember about them was "designed to be cheap, not cheaply designed"

I always liked it on french cars that had the electric window controls in the middle between the driver and passenger so no need for a switch on both doors.

RizzoTheRat

25,085 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Dog Star said:
Another detail - the electric windows - you only have a switch for the passenger window on the passenger door so you have to lean across to operate it if you’re the driver.
That reminds me of a good on my the ZX, the passenger side mirror was electric adjust, but the drivers side one was manual. You can easily reach the drivers one to adjust it so what would be the point of the extra expense of making it electric?

biggbn

22,818 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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blue_haddock said:
Puddenchucker said:
Toyota Aygo / Peugeot 107 / Citroën C1 only got one gas strut on the tailgate:

I worked for toyota when the aygo was launched, it was designed from the outset to be cheaply made so seeing as only the glass goes up i would say this is actually an example of good design.
Thats another reason I love the mk1 panda so much, its design is flat panels and flat glass, designed to be cheaply and easily made. Giugiaro claims it his favourite design.

Puddenchucker

4,036 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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biggbn said:
Thats another reason I love the mk1 panda so much, its design is flat panels and flat glass, designed to be cheaply and easily made. Giugiaro claims it his favourite design.
I stand to be corrected on this, but I remember reading that it was actually more expensive to manufacture a flat windsceeen compared to a curved one.

MarkwG

4,811 posts

188 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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blue_haddock said:
Dog Star said:
blue_haddock said:
I worked for toyota when the aygo was launched, it was designed from the outset to be cheaply made so seeing as only the glass goes up i would say this is actually an example of good design.
Great little cars, IMO. They aren’t “cheap”, imo. They’re “inexpensive”.

Another detail - the electric windows - you only have a switch for the passenger window on the passenger door so you have to lean across to operate it if you’re the driver.

Another thing I remember about my Fiesta Pop + was the seats - non reclining; in fact no back adjustment whatsoever.
The phrase i remember about them was "designed to be cheap, not cheaply designed"

I always liked it on french cars that had the electric window controls in the middle between the driver and passenger so no need for a switch on both doors.
I recall a friends that didn't have a courtesy light switch on the passenger door: a tad frustrating, tbh, when exiting in the dark, & a saving too far IMO.

wag2

169 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Shame the windscreen seal on the Panda leaked then.

njw1

2,053 posts

110 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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blue_haddock said:
I always liked it on french cars that had the electric window controls in the middle between the driver and passenger so no need for a switch on both doors.
The Sierra and e46 3 series also had the electric window switches in the centre console.
My last Sierra was a bit of an odd one in that it was very base spec so had no electric windows, central locking, power steering, rev counter (had a clock instead), abs or even fuel injection but had Ghia seats and colour coded bumpers. It was one of the last ones built on a K reg before Ford switched to the Mondeo so I assume that Ford were using whatever parts they had left, oh, and it was rwd but had a 4x4 shell.

biggbn

22,818 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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wag2 said:
Shame the windscreen seal on the Panda leaked then.
Never leaked on any of the ones I owned.

southendpier

5,254 posts

228 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Getting back to Bullseye - wasn't there a rule back in the day that you could only give away £X amount on a TV show as a total amount of prizes? That's why 70s and 80 tv shows had such naf prizes and may explain why the most basic car was offered, to leave enough money in the prize pot to splash out on the Teasmaid, His and Hers Bath sets, a Microwave - (a massive time saver for the ladies) and a set of golf clubs for the gentlemen

Dog Star

16,079 posts

167 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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southendpier said:
Getting back to Bullseye - wasn't there a rule back in the day that you could only give away £X amount on a TV show as a total amount of prizes? That's why 70s and 80 tv shows had such naf prizes and may explain why the most basic car was offered, to leave enough money in the prize pot to splash out on the Teasmaid, His and Hers Bath sets, a Microwave - (a massive time saver for the ladies) and a set of golf clubs for the gentlemen
I think that was just the BBC, hence the risible prizes on Blanketty Blank, but why the prizes on ITV were much, much better (Bullseye, Sale of the Century etc).

soxboy

6,060 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Dog Star said:
southendpier said:
Getting back to Bullseye - wasn't there a rule back in the day that you could only give away £X amount on a TV show as a total amount of prizes? That's why 70s and 80 tv shows had such naf prizes and may explain why the most basic car was offered, to leave enough money in the prize pot to splash out on the Teasmaid, His and Hers Bath sets, a Microwave - (a massive time saver for the ladies) and a set of golf clubs for the gentlemen
I think that was just the BBC, hence the risible prizes on Blanketty Blank, but why the prizes on ITV were much, much better (Bullseye, Sale of the Century etc).
Can’t believe nobody’s mentioned the speedboat yet


blueST

4,378 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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I love a bit of pov. spec motoring as evidenced by my current totally base spec Dacia Duster. But, my favourite basic car was my 1985 Mk2 Golf 1.3C. The entire centre console between the dash and gear stick was deleted, just big gap between dash and trans tunnel, not even a clock, big blank space were rev counter should be. Wrong way wipers. Ingeniously, they compensated for the loss of the rev counter by marking on the speedo where the redline was for each of four gears.

southendpier

5,254 posts

228 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Dog Star said:
southendpier said:
Getting back to Bullseye - wasn't there a rule back in the day that you could only give away £X amount on a TV show as a total amount of prizes? That's why 70s and 80 tv shows had such naf prizes and may explain why the most basic car was offered, to leave enough money in the prize pot to splash out on the Teasmaid, His and Hers Bath sets, a Microwave - (a massive time saver for the ladies) and a set of golf clubs for the gentlemen
I think that was just the BBC, hence the risible prizes on Blanketty Blank, but why the prizes on ITV were much, much better (Bullseye, Sale of the Century etc).
I Looked it up it was for ITV too - quite interesting (probably should've looked it up before.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Broadcas...

"There were also limits on the value of prizes that could be given away – this dated from the broadcast of the UK version of Twenty-One in 1958 in which a contestant won enough money to buy both a car and a house.[4] In 1960, two years after the scandal in America, the Independent Television Authority (predecessor of the IBA) imposed a £1,000 cap on the value of prizes which increased to £1,250 during the late 1970s with an occasional limit of £2,000 which rose to £2,500 by 1981. From 1981 to 1988, weekly winnings could average no more than £1,750. On occasion, said limit could increase to £3,500 over a course of four weeks. From 1989 to 1992, weekly winnings could not average more than £5,000 per individual contestant or £6,000 in total winnings per week. British versions of popular American quiz shows had to be adjusted – The $64,000 Question having a maximum prize initially of 64,000 sixpences (£1,600) in the late 1950s, and in the early 1990s of just £6,400. "The Six Thousand Four Hundred Pound Question" was only asked every other week, so as not to break the regulatory £6,000/week maximum. The Independent Television Commission abolished such limits in 1993."

Jonmx

2,535 posts

212 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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My ex had a Canyon Red, 1998 Mk 4 VW Golf. It looked great, but the penny pinching was beyond belief. No Central locking, no air con, wind down windows front and rear, steel wheels. Everything about it was poverty spec beyond belief. I expect budget spec in a Hyundai or similar, but not a mainstream German brand. Funnily enough, all those things now appeal immensely (air con aside), but that car was truly hateful.

WarrenB

2,374 posts

117 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Jonmx said:
My ex had a Canyon Red, 1998 Mk 4 VW Golf. It looked great, but the penny pinching was beyond belief. No Central locking, no air con, wind down windows front and rear, steel wheels. Everything about it was poverty spec beyond belief. I expect budget spec in a Hyundai or similar, but not a mainstream German brand. Funnily enough, all those things now appeal immensely (air con aside), but that car was truly hateful.
If my nostalgic nerdery serves me correctly, that sounds like it could have been the early 'E' spec. Where things such as a 'digital odometer' and 'service indicator' are listed as standard equipment in the brochure because it literally has nothing else.

'S' spec was the next trim level up, which was slightly less miserly specced, think that may have come with electric front windows and not much else.

'E' was dropped after the first year or two I think.

Think VW were hoping the premium feel of the Mk4 Golf would make up for the poor spec and higher price compared to the then new Focus and Mk4 Astra.