RE: 2024 Polestar 2 Performance Pack | PH Review
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Augustus Windsock said:
£70k
Nonsensical prices that can be charged (!) because these will either be company cars or had on a lease.
I bet a £ to a pile of poo that none of these are bought by private individuals using their own folding.
That aside, yeah, quite interesting but I wonder how the world will view these in a few years if BMW and Toyota push their hydrogen powered cars onto the market.
I will, no doubt, be flamed by the disciples of EVs for that comment but it’s a valid question as not so long ago we would have said the same about diesels coming onto the market (for those old enough to remember when a diesel in a Ford was a wheezy non-turbo unit slung under the bonnet of a poor Granada or similar).
I agree it's a valid question, but sadly the flipside is: Hydrogen costs a lot of electricity to make, compress, distribute.Nonsensical prices that can be charged (!) because these will either be company cars or had on a lease.
I bet a £ to a pile of poo that none of these are bought by private individuals using their own folding.
That aside, yeah, quite interesting but I wonder how the world will view these in a few years if BMW and Toyota push their hydrogen powered cars onto the market.
I will, no doubt, be flamed by the disciples of EVs for that comment but it’s a valid question as not so long ago we would have said the same about diesels coming onto the market (for those old enough to remember when a diesel in a Ford was a wheezy non-turbo unit slung under the bonnet of a poor Granada or similar).
So even if you design a perfect hydrogen-powered car, the fuel it needs will mean that it'll require a lot more electricity to fuel it than it would take to recharge a battery EV.
Hydrogen has its place, but for regular cars, sadly, it'll struggle to overcome that hill and so won't reach the mass adoption levels needed.
sidesauce said:
Range, or the lack thereof, is somewhat annoying as Polestar recommends charging the battery to 90%.
Charging to 80% or 90% to prolong battery life is a thing for every single BEV, just some manufacturers choose to be more transparent about it.Squeeze more range from a charge, but possibly faster battery degradation. Drive faster, wear out your tyres and brakes faster. The choice is yours.
SDK said:
GianiCakes said:
I’m surprised Volvo’s recently stated intent of offloading Polestar hasn’t gotten more attention in the motoring press, including not being mentioned here.
That is a story for click-bait media.Geely owns both Volvo and Polestar, so it's purely changing the official registered shareholders
Sulphur Man said:
It would be interesting to know how longer term owners are seeing their servicing bills, and if suspension maintenance is a regular thing. That second car felt every one of it's 2145 kg
I'm two years into mine now, and servicing bills have been exactly zero. not bad for covering 20,000 miles or close to it anyway.It did go in for a replacement pump of some sort, which was a common problem when new, but that seems to be rectified now.
It still drives like new; all the tech works as it should most of the time, overall the most reliable car I have ever owned.
The range is where these things start to fall apart, 170 when cold, 130 when really cold, 220 today, 240-250 in the summer. mine has a WLTP of 301.
Augustus Windsock said:
£70k
Nonsensical prices that can be charged (!) because these will either be company cars or had on a lease.
I bet a £ to a pile of poo that none of these are bought by private individuals using their own folding.
An overwhelming majority of new cars first leave the forecourt on a finance or leasing deal of some sort. There is absolutely nothing special about this one in that regard. It is not intended to be a basic runaround competing with a Corsa which is about the only class of car that people buy from new 'using their own folding'. 57% of all new cars are first registered by companies (ie company cars or leased). 83% of all new cars are financed.Nonsensical prices that can be charged (!) because these will either be company cars or had on a lease.
I bet a £ to a pile of poo that none of these are bought by private individuals using their own folding.
Ran one of these for 2.5 years and 40k miles and it was a fantastic all rounder.
Still felt like new when it went back as well and I drive my cars very hard. No issues at all with reliability and the range had actually improved not got worse from when I first took delivery thanks for various software updates.
A used Dual Motor car at circa. £25k-£30k is a bargain imo providing you can deal with about 230-240 miles range and the size.
Previously, I ran a Model 3 and to me it was an inferior product in every area other than range and the charging network which I never had to use with my usage.
Still felt like new when it went back as well and I drive my cars very hard. No issues at all with reliability and the range had actually improved not got worse from when I first took delivery thanks for various software updates.
A used Dual Motor car at circa. £25k-£30k is a bargain imo providing you can deal with about 230-240 miles range and the size.
Previously, I ran a Model 3 and to me it was an inferior product in every area other than range and the charging network which I never had to use with my usage.
TheRainMaker said:
I'm two years into mine now, and servicing bills have been exactly zero. not bad for covering 20,000 miles or close to it anyway.
It did go in for a replacement pump of some sort, which was a common problem when new, but that seems to be rectified now.
It still drives like new; all the tech works as it should most of the time, overall the most reliable car I have ever owned.
The range is where these things start to fall apart, 170 when cold, 130 when really cold, 220 today, 240-250 in the summer. mine has a WLTP of 301.
Wow! That is some drop in range. When you say really cold, what temperature range we talking? It did go in for a replacement pump of some sort, which was a common problem when new, but that seems to be rectified now.
It still drives like new; all the tech works as it should most of the time, overall the most reliable car I have ever owned.
The range is where these things start to fall apart, 170 when cold, 130 when really cold, 220 today, 240-250 in the summer. mine has a WLTP of 301.
I have a 2023 model which is almost identical other than having a better looking front end and it is the best car I have ever owned. I don't find the ohlins to be uncomfortable on the factory setup but I know many owners prefer them on the softer settings. I disagree with the seats being uncomfortable as well but note that this is a very individual thing and will depend on the build of the driver.
On the ownership points raised earlier in the thread, I don't see why it is a concern. If anything it has simplified the ownership structure and means Polestar are funded directly through their ultimate owners rather than via Volvo. They are still designed and headquartered in Sweden (with R&D in the UK) and still use the Volvo dealer network for servicing.
On the ownership points raised earlier in the thread, I don't see why it is a concern. If anything it has simplified the ownership structure and means Polestar are funded directly through their ultimate owners rather than via Volvo. They are still designed and headquartered in Sweden (with R&D in the UK) and still use the Volvo dealer network for servicing.
FamousPheasant said:
TheRainMaker said:
I'm two years into mine now, and servicing bills have been exactly zero. not bad for covering 20,000 miles or close to it anyway.
It did go in for a replacement pump of some sort, which was a common problem when new, but that seems to be rectified now.
It still drives like new; all the tech works as it should most of the time, overall the most reliable car I have ever owned.
The range is where these things start to fall apart, 170 when cold, 130 when really cold, 220 today, 240-250 in the summer. mine has a WLTP of 301.
Wow! That is some drop in range. When you say really cold, what temperature range we talking? It did go in for a replacement pump of some sort, which was a common problem when new, but that seems to be rectified now.
It still drives like new; all the tech works as it should most of the time, overall the most reliable car I have ever owned.
The range is where these things start to fall apart, 170 when cold, 130 when really cold, 220 today, 240-250 in the summer. mine has a WLTP of 301.
The car comes with heated everything (including washer jets) which won't help.
TheRainMaker said:
FamousPheasant said:
TheRainMaker said:
I'm two years into mine now, and servicing bills have been exactly zero. not bad for covering 20,000 miles or close to it anyway.
It did go in for a replacement pump of some sort, which was a common problem when new, but that seems to be rectified now.
It still drives like new; all the tech works as it should most of the time, overall the most reliable car I have ever owned.
The range is where these things start to fall apart, 170 when cold, 130 when really cold, 220 today, 240-250 in the summer. mine has a WLTP of 301.
Wow! That is some drop in range. When you say really cold, what temperature range we talking? It did go in for a replacement pump of some sort, which was a common problem when new, but that seems to be rectified now.
It still drives like new; all the tech works as it should most of the time, overall the most reliable car I have ever owned.
The range is where these things start to fall apart, 170 when cold, 130 when really cold, 220 today, 240-250 in the summer. mine has a WLTP of 301.
The car comes with heated everything (including washer jets) which won't help.
TheRainMaker said:
RenesisEvo said:
Did it have the heat pump? I know those without, really suffer in the cold. As I found myself many years ago with a Nissan Leaf during a week that never got much above -2degC.
It does, well it should have anyway 
it was part of the Plus pack which my car has.Antj said:
another boring box
470 bhp and over 700Nm's of instant torque boring - interesting ! I had one for 3 years and I found it fun to drive and my son loved it too.
Does a car need popping exhausts for it not to be boring. IMO that's a chav, anti-social image, which I and many others don't want to be associated with
It looks great in the first picture and I particularly like the familiar ICE grille look, which is a lot more pleasing than most electric offerings have. Heck of a price though and pretty chunky in side profile - reminds me of an X6. Then there is the interior with the elephant in the room i pad display.
wolfie28 said:
I like these and wanted one but the works salary sacrifice scheme was over £700 a month. MG4 xpower on order as it’s nearly half that price. The MG might be half the car but it’s going to be my daily commute so not that bothered.
Yes, they have got expensive, when I ordered my launch spec car the dual motor with both packs was £47,995 back in late 2020 which seems a bargain now looking back. The leather interior is £4k which is a pricey option most people don't go for.
Kipsrs said:
This is how my eyes see it.. . Exterior looks. . mmm, ok-ish. Interior is absolutely hideous! But, horses for courses and each to their own.
I would agree, especially like the front end, rear end is ok, but interior looks very basic looking, especially considering the cost of these.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff