An epidemic of insanely slow drivers
An epidemic of insanely slow drivers
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zarjaz1991

5,640 posts

145 months

Saturday 6th December 2025
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Mandat said:
M4cruiser said:
Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.
I'm getting road captain vibes.
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baptistsan

1,897 posts

232 months

Saturday 6th December 2025
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John D. said:
Unless she's doing less than 50mph holding up HGVs in lane 1 I suppose.
The number of times I've seen this on the A14 recently beggars belief! If you are holding up HGVs you really shouldn't be on the road!

zarjaz1991

5,640 posts

145 months

Saturday 6th December 2025
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baptistsan said:
The number of times I've seen this on the A14 recently beggars belief! If you are holding up HGVs you really shouldn't be on the road!
I've become almost blind to it, there are so many.

They no doubt think slow = safe, they are a bloody menace.

Scott

al78

34 posts

49 months

Saturday 6th December 2025
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I've just traveled up to see my father who is in hospital, Horsham to Salford. I'm sure this didn't used to be a thing 20 years ago, but I don't get these people who drive at 50 mph on a free flowing motorway, or those that won't go over 60 mph, so if you are in lane 1 and want to overtake a HGV ahead, you get them paralleling you so you can't move into lane 2 and have to slow right down, move into lane 2, then put my foot down to get back up to the speed of most other people.

The other one I don't get and is infuriating is those who won't accelerate along slip roads to match the speed of the motorway/dual carriageway, making it way more difficult that it should be for anyone behind about to join.

Closer to home, Horsham is home to some of the world's slowest and most gormless people, so when coming home from the station and reach the Guildford road heading out of town and is free flowing, there is a convoy of traffic behind someone who won't go over 20 mph. If I can keep up with you on a main road which has no obstructions/hazards in the vicinity, is going uphill, and I am riding a bicycle, you are driving too slowly.

carreauchompeur

18,297 posts

226 months

Saturday 6th December 2025
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Yes, the slowcoaches on the motorway are incredibly annoying.

My old motorhome will do 70 but is far happier at 60, and constantly tangling with these fkwits fluctuating between 55, to 65 when I’m mid overtake, is painful

M4cruiser

4,865 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th December 2025
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MightyBadger said:
M4cruiser said:
Thank you for your trolling comments.
Just to let you know, my driving has been assessed by an IAM examiner and declared suitably "advanced", then also assessed by an Observer Trainer (or whatever they were called) and declared advanced enough to pass on to others under the IAM local group observer scheme, and then later similarly assessed in a different local group when I moved areas and became an Observer again. smile

Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.

Perhaps you have mis-understood my posts (my writing style is hindered by a difficulty) and/or perhaps you don't know what advanced driving is.

Even better, I can spell "you're".
Why capitalise the word observer and not examiner, are they not as 'important' as you?
mighty badger seems to have something against the IAM.
Perhaps it's because their boats catch fire? biggrin
At least, I'm pretty sure they do .... can't seem to find any reference to it on the web.



M4cruiser

4,865 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th December 2025
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Mandat said:
M4cruiser said:
Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.
I'm getting road captain vibes.
It's called "keeping to the Highway Code".
Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!


Catweazle

2,007 posts

164 months

Sunday 7th December 2025
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M4cruiser said:
It's called "keeping to the Highway Code".
Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!

I expect you to do fifty, not forty-five and definitely not thirty-five.

Mr Tidy

29,138 posts

149 months

Sunday 7th December 2025
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Catweazle said:
M4cruiser said:
It's called "keeping to the Highway Code".
Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!

I expect you to do fifty, not forty-five and definitely not thirty-five.
TBF I'd be doing an indicated 55 on the basis of prosecution guidelines allowing 10% + 2mph, and your speedo almost certainly over-reading anyway!



Fastdruid

9,282 posts

174 months

Monday 8th December 2025
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robinessex said:
I happily poodle along in 2nd in 30mph limits. If I lift off the gas, I get significant amounts of engine braking. The F*****G brake lights don't come on. BRAKE LIGHTS, hands up anyone who doesn't understand those two words.
I don't... mostly because 2nd gear is *FAR* too responsive and OTT for 30 limits. 4th normally, 3rd if its a bit hilly and if its flat I've been known to use 5th (not a diesel!)...

bergclimber34 said:
Was behind some gormless cretin in a green plate Audi earlier, speed was fine, but gor some reason they would randomly ride the brakes for 10 30 yards without slowing down at all, utterly pointless and clearly a habit.
Anyway, I'm not sure if I was behind the same person the other night. Trundling along (in a 30), no noticeable change in speed yet every ~50yrds the brake lights would flicker on for a second. If there was any braking I certainly couldn't tell. Genuinely unsure if it was someone resting their foot on the brake pedal , or "one pedal" driving with them automatically coming on, if it *was* "one pedal" however it was bloody annoying and either overly sensitive or they were incapable of keeping a constant "throttle"!

mobile chicane22

418 posts

210 months

Monday 8th December 2025
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M4cruiser said:
It's called "keeping to the Highway Code".
Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!

I think know that road (goes to tot hill services IIRC), 60-70 appears to be the default speed of most who drive down there, I tend to stick to about the 50 limit as there are a few hidden driveways and bambi and co have a habit of playing chicken on it as well.

I have also overtaken (on a bike) a line of cars following an oxygen thief doing no more than 25 along there, clear day no obstructions, as I passed the 02 tea leaf I did notice a large mobile phone or some kind of sat nav stuck slap bang in the middle of their windscreen.

Mark_Blanchard

1,022 posts

277 months

Monday 8th December 2025
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We live in an area where there are a large number of elderly people. I can't count the number of times I've been stuck behind a Honda Jazz (or similar) doing 25mph in a 60mph, along country A roads. Overtaking is not an option due to the number of blind corners and quantity of cars on the road. You just have to sit there driving behind them like a lemming.

MrWideFit

174 posts

12 months

Monday 8th December 2025
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Mark_Blanchard said:
We live in an area where there are a large number of elderly people. I can't count the number of times I've been stuck behind a Honda Jazz (or similar) doing 25mph in a 60mph, along country A roads. Overtaking is not an option due to the number of blind corners and quantity of cars on the road. You just have to sit there driving behind them like a lemming.
My commute is the same and consists of long straight 50 limits with 25mph dawdlers, you can’t pass them due to the sheer number of oncoming traffic and when you can go for a quick zip round, you can always trust that a central traffic refuge will be conveniently placed hehe

Wardy78

2,399 posts

80 months

Monday 8th December 2025
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M4cruiser said:
theplayingmantis said:
based on vast majority of your post on ph your an utterly awful driver, an obstacle causing all sorts of havoc behind you not knowing what a lamppost is and other things.

Or a very clever troll who still gets bites....
Thank you for your trolling comments.
Just to let you know, my driving has been assessed by an IAM examiner and declared suitably "advanced", then also assessed by an Observer Trainer (or whatever they were called) and declared advanced enough to pass on to others under the IAM local group observer scheme, and then later similarly assessed in a different local group when I moved areas and became an Observer again. smile

Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.

Perhaps you have mis-understood my posts (my writing style is hindered by a difficulty) and/or perhaps you don't know what advanced driving is.

Even better, I can spell "you're".
From my experience, those with IAM badges on their cars (especially enamelled ones on the grille) are usually the worst and most inconsiderate drivers on the road.

zarjaz1991

5,640 posts

145 months

Monday 8th December 2025
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Wardy78 said:
From my experience, those with IAM badges on their cars (especially enamelled ones on the grille) are usually the worst and most inconsiderate drivers on the road.
If so, they are not following what they've learned.

Admittedly I'm learning advanced driving with RoSPA not IAM but the basic principles aren't far apart.

Consideration for other users is a key part of it. If they're not considerate that badge shouldn't be on the car! biggrin

MightyBadger

3,776 posts

72 months

Monday 8th December 2025
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M4cruiser said:
mighty badger seems to have something against the IAM.
Perhaps it's because their boats catch fire? biggrin
At least, I'm pretty sure they do .... can't seem to find any reference to it on the web.
I beg your pardon? What are you waffling about? Nowt wrong with IAM.

Did you read what I posted? I didn't think so as you didn't answer what I asked hehe

Sixteen Stone

167 posts

4 months

Monday 8th December 2025
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Mark_Blanchard said:
We live in an area where there are a large number of elderly people. I can't count the number of times I've been stuck behind a Honda Jazz (or similar) doing 25mph in a 60mph, along country A roads. Overtaking is not an option due to the number of blind corners and quantity of cars on the road. You just have to sit there driving behind them like a lemming.
I'm elderly and drive a Honda Jazz. Lando Norris? Move over slow coach.

swisstoni

21,987 posts

301 months

Tuesday 9th December 2025
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MrWideFit said:
Mark_Blanchard said:
We live in an area where there are a large number of elderly people. I can't count the number of times I've been stuck behind a Honda Jazz (or similar) doing 25mph in a 60mph, along country A roads. Overtaking is not an option due to the number of blind corners and quantity of cars on the road. You just have to sit there driving behind them like a lemming.
My commute is the same and consists of long straight 50 limits with 25mph dawdlers, you can t pass them due to the sheer number of oncoming traffic and when you can go for a quick zip round, you can always trust that a central traffic refuge will be conveniently placed hehe
The only stretch of NSL road near me happens to have a Sainsburys at the end of it. grumpy

MOMACC

591 posts

59 months

Tuesday 9th December 2025
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I think EV drivers are adding to the issue, not all but those on auto cruise control are.

My ID3 is shocking on auto cruise as if I put it at 70 on the motorway it will stay well back from the car in front which if that is doing 70 mine will drop to 65, those behind follow suit.

Plenty of EV drivers willing to sit at 60 - 65 to maximise battery too.

Personally I've stopped using the cruise and now sit at 77 on the pedal.

Teslas seem better than most at the cruise speed though.

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NSL stretch near me goes from 40 to NSL for 2 miles then back to 40, no chance to overtake either. You guessed it, no one goes above 40. It's very frustrating.

Wills2

27,934 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th December 2025
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Mandat said:
M4cruiser said:
Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.
I'm getting road captain vibes.
Yep, the kind you hope you don't get behind on any journey.