An epidemic of insanely slow drivers
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I've just traveled up to see my father who is in hospital, Horsham to Salford. I'm sure this didn't used to be a thing 20 years ago, but I don't get these people who drive at 50 mph on a free flowing motorway, or those that won't go over 60 mph, so if you are in lane 1 and want to overtake a HGV ahead, you get them paralleling you so you can't move into lane 2 and have to slow right down, move into lane 2, then put my foot down to get back up to the speed of most other people.
The other one I don't get and is infuriating is those who won't accelerate along slip roads to match the speed of the motorway/dual carriageway, making it way more difficult that it should be for anyone behind about to join.
Closer to home, Horsham is home to some of the world's slowest and most gormless people, so when coming home from the station and reach the Guildford road heading out of town and is free flowing, there is a convoy of traffic behind someone who won't go over 20 mph. If I can keep up with you on a main road which has no obstructions/hazards in the vicinity, is going uphill, and I am riding a bicycle, you are driving too slowly.
The other one I don't get and is infuriating is those who won't accelerate along slip roads to match the speed of the motorway/dual carriageway, making it way more difficult that it should be for anyone behind about to join.
Closer to home, Horsham is home to some of the world's slowest and most gormless people, so when coming home from the station and reach the Guildford road heading out of town and is free flowing, there is a convoy of traffic behind someone who won't go over 20 mph. If I can keep up with you on a main road which has no obstructions/hazards in the vicinity, is going uphill, and I am riding a bicycle, you are driving too slowly.
MightyBadger said:
M4cruiser said:
Thank you for your trolling comments.
Just to let you know, my driving has been assessed by an IAM examiner and declared suitably "advanced", then also assessed by an Observer Trainer (or whatever they were called) and declared advanced enough to pass on to others under the IAM local group observer scheme, and then later similarly assessed in a different local group when I moved areas and became an Observer again.
Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.
Perhaps you have mis-understood my posts (my writing style is hindered by a difficulty) and/or perhaps you don't know what advanced driving is.
Even better, I can spell "you're".
Why capitalise the word observer and not examiner, are they not as 'important' as you?Just to let you know, my driving has been assessed by an IAM examiner and declared suitably "advanced", then also assessed by an Observer Trainer (or whatever they were called) and declared advanced enough to pass on to others under the IAM local group observer scheme, and then later similarly assessed in a different local group when I moved areas and became an Observer again.

Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.
Perhaps you have mis-understood my posts (my writing style is hindered by a difficulty) and/or perhaps you don't know what advanced driving is.
Even better, I can spell "you're".
Perhaps it's because their boats catch fire?

At least, I'm pretty sure they do .... can't seem to find any reference to it on the web.
Mandat said:
M4cruiser said:
Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.
I'm getting road captain vibes.Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!
M4cruiser said:
It's called "keeping to the Highway Code".
Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!

I expect you to do fifty, not forty-five and definitely not thirty-five. Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!
Catweazle said:
M4cruiser said:
I expect you to do fifty, not forty-five and definitely not thirty-five. robinessex said:
I happily poodle along in 2nd in 30mph limits. If I lift off the gas, I get significant amounts of engine braking. The F*****G brake lights don't come on. BRAKE LIGHTS, hands up anyone who doesn't understand those two words.
I don't... mostly because 2nd gear is *FAR* too responsive and OTT for 30 limits. 4th normally, 3rd if its a bit hilly and if its flat I've been known to use 5th (not a diesel!)... bergclimber34 said:
Was behind some gormless cretin in a green plate Audi earlier, speed was fine, but gor some reason they would randomly ride the brakes for 10 30 yards without slowing down at all, utterly pointless and clearly a habit.
Anyway, I'm not sure if I was behind the same person the other night. Trundling along (in a 30), no noticeable change in speed yet every ~50yrds the brake lights would flicker on for a second. If there was any braking I certainly couldn't tell. Genuinely unsure if it was someone resting their foot on the brake pedal , or "one pedal" driving with them automatically coming on, if it *was* "one pedal" however it was bloody annoying and either overly sensitive or they were incapable of keeping a constant "throttle"! M4cruiser said:
It's called "keeping to the Highway Code".
Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!

I think know that road (goes to tot hill services IIRC), 60-70 appears to be the default speed of most who drive down there, I tend to stick to about the 50 limit as there are a few hidden driveways and bambi and co have a habit of playing chicken on it as well.Here's a road I use a lot (near Newbury). It's normally much busier than this.
Seriously, what do you expect me to do on a road like this, when I'm doing 50 and there's a queue behind me?!
I have also overtaken (on a bike) a line of cars following an oxygen thief doing no more than 25 along there, clear day no obstructions, as I passed the 02 tea leaf I did notice a large mobile phone or some kind of sat nav stuck slap bang in the middle of their windscreen.
We live in an area where there are a large number of elderly people. I can't count the number of times I've been stuck behind a Honda Jazz (or similar) doing 25mph in a 60mph, along country A roads. Overtaking is not an option due to the number of blind corners and quantity of cars on the road. You just have to sit there driving behind them like a lemming.
Mark_Blanchard said:
We live in an area where there are a large number of elderly people. I can't count the number of times I've been stuck behind a Honda Jazz (or similar) doing 25mph in a 60mph, along country A roads. Overtaking is not an option due to the number of blind corners and quantity of cars on the road. You just have to sit there driving behind them like a lemming.
My commute is the same and consists of long straight 50 limits with 25mph dawdlers, you can’t pass them due to the sheer number of oncoming traffic and when you can go for a quick zip round, you can always trust that a central traffic refuge will be conveniently placed 
M4cruiser said:
theplayingmantis said:
based on vast majority of your post on ph your an utterly awful driver, an obstacle causing all sorts of havoc behind you not knowing what a lamppost is and other things.
Or a very clever troll who still gets bites....
Thank you for your trolling comments.Or a very clever troll who still gets bites....
Just to let you know, my driving has been assessed by an IAM examiner and declared suitably "advanced", then also assessed by an Observer Trainer (or whatever they were called) and declared advanced enough to pass on to others under the IAM local group observer scheme, and then later similarly assessed in a different local group when I moved areas and became an Observer again.

Any havoc behind me is caused by those wanting to exceed the speed limit, because they think it's a minimum, not a maximum.
Perhaps you have mis-understood my posts (my writing style is hindered by a difficulty) and/or perhaps you don't know what advanced driving is.
Even better, I can spell "you're".
Wardy78 said:
From my experience, those with IAM badges on their cars (especially enamelled ones on the grille) are usually the worst and most inconsiderate drivers on the road.
If so, they are not following what they've learned.Admittedly I'm learning advanced driving with RoSPA not IAM but the basic principles aren't far apart.
Consideration for other users is a key part of it. If they're not considerate that badge shouldn't be on the car!

M4cruiser said:
mighty badger seems to have something against the IAM.
Perhaps it's because their boats catch fire?
At least, I'm pretty sure they do .... can't seem to find any reference to it on the web.
I beg your pardon? What are you waffling about? Nowt wrong with IAM.Perhaps it's because their boats catch fire?

At least, I'm pretty sure they do .... can't seem to find any reference to it on the web.
Did you read what I posted? I didn't think so as you didn't answer what I asked

Mark_Blanchard said:
We live in an area where there are a large number of elderly people. I can't count the number of times I've been stuck behind a Honda Jazz (or similar) doing 25mph in a 60mph, along country A roads. Overtaking is not an option due to the number of blind corners and quantity of cars on the road. You just have to sit there driving behind them like a lemming.
I'm elderly and drive a Honda Jazz. Lando Norris? Move over slow coach.MrWideFit said:
Mark_Blanchard said:
We live in an area where there are a large number of elderly people. I can't count the number of times I've been stuck behind a Honda Jazz (or similar) doing 25mph in a 60mph, along country A roads. Overtaking is not an option due to the number of blind corners and quantity of cars on the road. You just have to sit there driving behind them like a lemming.
My commute is the same and consists of long straight 50 limits with 25mph dawdlers, you can t pass them due to the sheer number of oncoming traffic and when you can go for a quick zip round, you can always trust that a central traffic refuge will be conveniently placed 

I think EV drivers are adding to the issue, not all but those on auto cruise control are.
My ID3 is shocking on auto cruise as if I put it at 70 on the motorway it will stay well back from the car in front which if that is doing 70 mine will drop to 65, those behind follow suit.
Plenty of EV drivers willing to sit at 60 - 65 to maximise battery too.
Personally I've stopped using the cruise and now sit at 77 on the pedal.
Teslas seem better than most at the cruise speed though.
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NSL stretch near me goes from 40 to NSL for 2 miles then back to 40, no chance to overtake either. You guessed it, no one goes above 40. It's very frustrating.
My ID3 is shocking on auto cruise as if I put it at 70 on the motorway it will stay well back from the car in front which if that is doing 70 mine will drop to 65, those behind follow suit.
Plenty of EV drivers willing to sit at 60 - 65 to maximise battery too.
Personally I've stopped using the cruise and now sit at 77 on the pedal.
Teslas seem better than most at the cruise speed though.
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NSL stretch near me goes from 40 to NSL for 2 miles then back to 40, no chance to overtake either. You guessed it, no one goes above 40. It's very frustrating.
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kwits fluctuating between 55, to 65 when I’m mid overtake, is painful