RE: Range Rover TDV8 | Shed of the Week

[honevo]

fantheman80 said:

If you went to see this one i have a feeling it would be up a gravel driveway and you'd be welcomed by the sight of prefab homes, a lot of young lads on bikes, a staffie running loose and the owner coming out in an open shirt and leather trilby..

This tells us tells us all we need to know about you rather than the vendor

[Tiglon]

cerb4.5lee said:

chirurgus said:

Tiglon said:

Speed addicted said:

That’s because gran doesn’t typically go over hump back bridges at warp speed or do handbrake turns in maccy Ds car park.

There's nothing like a bit of hyperbole and a few Clarkson-esque cliches to make a point, is there?

It sounds pretty accurate to me - at 17y, my second car (I crashed the first) ended up with an oval, pancaked exhaust pipe landing on the far side of a humpback bridge that I went over too fast with three mates in the car. I also used to do handbrake turns at any and every opportunity (including at 50mph on wet grass, which was absolutely terrifying and almost ended in a roll).

Agree and 17 year old lads like to show off, and I know that I did. The problem is...we think that we can drive well at 17 too, but the reality is that we can't though!

I crashed my first car twice(the mighty 1982 Skoda Estelle). Once was when I ran into the back of a stationary Jag XJ on a national speed limit B road, and the second time I wrapped it around a lamppost in the wet. That wrote it off, and I was back on my pushbike for the next 6 months or so until I could afford to buy another car.

So the moral of those stories is... don't buy cars from either of you?

[cerb4.5lee]

Tiglon said:

cerb4.5lee said:

chirurgus said:

Tiglon said:

Speed addicted said:

That’s because gran doesn’t typically go over hump back bridges at warp speed or do handbrake turns in maccy Ds car park.

There's nothing like a bit of hyperbole and a few Clarkson-esque cliches to make a point, is there?

It sounds pretty accurate to me - at 17y, my second car (I crashed the first) ended up with an oval, pancaked exhaust pipe landing on the far side of a humpback bridge that I went over too fast with three mates in the car. I also used to do handbrake turns at any and every opportunity (including at 50mph on wet grass, which was absolutely terrifying and almost ended in a roll).

Agree and 17 year old lads like to show off, and I know that I did. The problem is...we think that we can drive well at 17 too, but the reality is that we can't though!

I crashed my first car twice(the mighty 1982 Skoda Estelle). Once was when I ran into the back of a stationary Jag XJ on a national speed limit B road, and the second time I wrapped it around a lamppost in the wet. That wrote it off, and I was back on my pushbike for the next 6 months or so until I could afford to buy another car.

So the moral of those stories is... don't buy cars from either of you?

My driving has improved a bit now I'm in my 50's to be fair.

However...you do make a fair point though!

[username_checksout]

Wheel Turned Out said:

Westminster was the runout top spec at the end of the line, iirc. I think Autobiography came in later too. Possibly with the refresh when they dumped the BMW engines?

I think the BMW engines were dropped in 2005-6. I made a point of buying one with the Jag lump after reading (on this site) about the issues the BMW engines could throw up, and the ZF gearboxes that could go pop.

[ridds]

Krikkit said:

Bobupndown said:

Long time landrover fan and admirer of the L322 but this one looks like a money pit. The Martini stickers are a bizarre addition that I can't see appealing to many. The instant alarm bells however are the tasteful addition of "chrome" door handles and side vents, any car with embellishments like that is an instant no from me.

Probably been to LM?

Says a lot when the article authour and most to the replies clearly can't grasp that this has been to LM... This year? Who knows...

[Chlorothalonil]

Capitan Obvio said:

Article: Range Rover TDV8 | Shed of the Week

Article also: The 2007-on 4.4 litre TDV8 was leagues better in this regard but it’s a sure bet that you won’t find an MOT’d one of them for £1,690.

You won’t find a 4.4 TDV8 at that age anyway… crap article as usual.

[legless]

username_checksout said:

I think the BMW engines were dropped in 2005-6. I made a point of buying one with the Jag lump after reading (on this site) about the issues the BMW engines could throw up, and the ZF gearboxes that could go pop.

The BMW petrol engines and 5-speed ZF box were dropped for 2006 model year. The diesel with the GM 5-speed box was dropped a year later for 2007 model year.

Both the AJ-V8 and Lion V8 engines used the ZF 6-speed box until 2011 model year when it was replaced with the ZF 8-speed box.

[eliot]

legless said:

Capitan Obvio said:

Article: Range Rover TDV8 | Shed of the Week

Article also: The 2007-on 4.4 litre TDV8 was leagues better in this regard but it’s a sure bet that you won’t find an MOT’d one of them for £1,690.

And the TDV8 in 2007 was a 3.6l unit. It was only 4.4l from 2011MY onwards.

correct - 10 beard points.
The last of the line facelifted 4.4tdv8’s with the 8 speed box are the pick of the crop in l322’s (well apart from the late supercharged ones if the timing chain isn’t rattling)

[fantheman80]

honevo said:

fantheman80 said:

If you went to see this one i have a feeling it would be up a gravel driveway and you'd be welcomed by the sight of prefab homes, a lot of young lads on bikes, a staffie running loose and the owner coming out in an open shirt and leather trilby..

This tells us tells us all we need to know about you rather than the vendor

Whats that then my good man? (Apart from my like of the film snatch where this would fit in nicely)

[Lopez Ufarte]

Gibbler290 said:

Ew…Martini stickers on this LR…what kind of pleb does that?

• Camera pans to posters driveway to show RR Sport festooned with PH Le Mans Stickers*

Maybe the previous owner was partial to a spot of Martini. Or was a fan of Leonard Rossiter or Joan Collins.

[pacdes]

They could have doubled the value by removing the stripes.

[chirurgus]

Tiglon said:

cerb4.5lee said:

chirurgus said:

Tiglon said:

Speed addicted said:

Tiglon said:

And this is the key to finding great value sheds - look at the ones that everyone else has discounted because of something that's either not as bad as it seems or something that, at this price point, is completely irrelevant.

All the boy racer mates I had when I was 17 looked after their saxo's a lot better than my gran looked after her fiesta (especially the clutch), but used car buyers still go weak in the knees for that "one mature lady owner" car, and ignore the one that's had £5k spent on speakers and wheels and treated as pride and joy.

That’s because gran doesn’t typically go over hump back bridges at warp speed or do handbrake turns in maccy Ds car park.

There's nothing like a bit of hyperbole and a few Clarkson-esque cliches to make a point, is there?

It sounds pretty accurate to me - at 17y, my second car (I crashed the first) ended up with an oval, pancaked exhaust pipe landing on the far side of a humpback bridge that I went over too fast with three mates in the car. I also used to do handbrake turns at any and every opportunity (including at 50mph on wet grass, which was absolutely terrifying and almost ended in a roll).

Agree and 17 year old lads like to show off, and I know that I did. The problem is...we think that we can drive well at 17 too, but the reality is that we can't though!

I crashed my first car twice(the mighty 1982 Skoda Estelle). Once was when I ran into the back of a stationary Jag XJ on a national speed limit B road, and the second time I wrapped it around a lamppost in the wet. That wrote it off, and I was back on my pushbike for the next 6 months or so until I could afford to buy another car.

So the moral of those stories is... don't buy cars from either of you?

There are no morals to be observed in either set of stories (unless, that is, anecdotes of teenage irresponsibility somehow aid in your betterment). Rather, they serve to support the assumption that young men drive like idiots, which is contrary to your assertion that to say as much is hyperbole.

[Its Just Adz]

ferret50 said:

Any time, any place, any where, the Martini girl used to say!

Shame it's in Cleckheaton, an only slightly posher part of Bradford.

I was just going to post that.
Just 5 miles from Bradford.
Run, run away.

[Bobupndown]

bangerhoarder said:

No mention of the gearbox - IIRC lifted straight from much lighter applications (I think it was lifted straight from the same family of BMW as the engine?). 150,000 miles if you’re lucky before it expires. Rebuild not cheap, but not totally ruinous.

I do like the engine though. Slow but can be coaxed do decent MPG - we coaxed nearly 30MPG out of one while towing a flat bed trailer with car behind on a long run. Had needed a new injector and the entire intake manifold cleaning of gloop from the EGR first though.

You're doing well if this gearbox gets to 80000 miles rather than 150000.

[Sebring440]

Angelo1985 said:

I love how the title says “Range Rover TDV8” when it’s very obviously a TD6 with the 177 hp engine..

No prizes for coming second, or third, or fourth.......

[NikBartlett]

An insurance company is going to take a very dim view of those hideous stripes

[ClaphamBoxS]

jeremy996 said:

Winston Churchill’s reputed reply to 1920s socialite Viscountess Nancy Astor after she had accused him of being drunk. “Yes madam, I am drunk,” he said, “and you are ugly, but tomorrow I will be sober.”

I think you might have the wrong butt of Winston's wit - https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/churchil...

Bessie Braddock MP was the usually reported other party

Nancy Astor was a regular foil/victim/belligerent - https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-h...

"The famous exchange between them, during a weekend at Blenheim Palace, is apparently not apocryphal, as we had previously believed: “Winston, if I were married to you I’d put poison in your coffee”… “Nancy, if I were married to you I’d drink it.”"

There was another one but i’m not sure who it was directed against….could well have been Nancy Astor

Winston,,.Would you sleep with me for £1,000,000

Woman…i’m not sure i would have to think about it

Winston…Would you sleep with me for £1…

Woman..Absoluteky not what do you think i am?

Winston….We know what you are now we are just negotiating on price…

[BeastieBoy73]

brownspeed said:

Keep the stripes, bin the car

Wise words, well said!

[JW911]

Given the time of year, I reckon someone bought this as a LM support vehicle (carrying fire extinguishers for TVR owners perhaps?) and stickered it up as a result.

I remember doing similar many years ago with the “Red 5” Rangie. Turned out the RR was significantly more reliable than our Nige’s LMP.

Went in the 911 after that.

[Mr Tidy]

ClaphamBoxS said:

There was another one but i’m not sure who it was directed against….could well have been Nancy Astor

Winston,,.Would you sleep with me for £1,000,000

Woman…i’m not sure i would have to think about it

Winston…Would you sleep with me for £1…

Woman..Absoluteky not what do you think i am?

Winston….We know what you are now we are just negotiating on price…

I always thought it was Oscar Wilde who had that conversation, although it seems to have been attributed to Churchill and others including George Bernard Shaw.

Anyway an article written as ony Shed can about a money-pit - not for me thanks!