RE: Vauxhall Zafira VXR | Spotted
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911Spanker said:
Unreal said:
911Spanker said:
Nothing wrong with that at all. Same here...
I bet it's a more interesting car than what most posters on this thread drive...
I bet it isn't. Do you want me to start? I bet it's a more interesting car than what most posters on this thread drive...
But yes, please do feel free to show off..
I've never understood the hatred for Vauxhalls, personally I find their steering a bit too light for my taste but I'd take a Vauxhall over public transport every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
And fair play to Vauxhall for actually building it in the first place too, a small ray of slightly barking mad sunshine in a grey world of boring 'focus group optimised' bland-mobiles
And fair play to Vauxhall for actually building it in the first place too, a small ray of slightly barking mad sunshine in a grey world of boring 'focus group optimised' bland-mobiles
I've always quite liked the Zafira VXR/GSi for reasons already stated by others, useful and still a bit of fun. I get the 'roided up stereotype of the owners as well, which is one reason why I never did one (the other being bad experience of EcoTech engine management problems). Then again, I put most Audi drivers in the same ownership group. You can only speak as you find.
Tango13 said:
I've never understood the hatred for Vauxhalls, personally I find their steering a bit too light for my taste but I'd take a Vauxhall over public transport every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
And fair play to Vauxhall for actually building it in the first place too, a small ray of slightly barking mad sunshine in a grey world of boring 'focus group optimised' bland-mobiles
It's not universal. There are few detractors for the Carlton or VX220. The Omega was considered a decent executive barge. Going back further, models like the Firenza and SRi were liked new and now. Further back the PA Cresta.And fair play to Vauxhall for actually building it in the first place too, a small ray of slightly barking mad sunshine in a grey world of boring 'focus group optimised' bland-mobiles
It's just a few moderns that seem to attract negativity. It's more association with a certain type of owner than the cars. Base models are accused of being bland but that can be and is levelled at plenty of brands.
£7k for a 17 year old Zafira, is just bonkers!
As someone’s previously mentioned, the exterior styling department at Vauxhall/Opel appeared to never speak to the interiors department or vice versa. FairPlay to Vauxhall for applying the VXR to all (?) of its product line during the early 00’s, even if the consumers didn’t ask for it.
Does make you wonder what’ll be in “spotted” in 2041…
As someone’s previously mentioned, the exterior styling department at Vauxhall/Opel appeared to never speak to the interiors department or vice versa. FairPlay to Vauxhall for applying the VXR to all (?) of its product line during the early 00’s, even if the consumers didn’t ask for it.
Does make you wonder what’ll be in “spotted” in 2041…
Edited by Exocet_90 on Monday 25th November 18:27
Davie said:
Whilst that may be true and that choice of modifications is usually the domain of a certain demographic, I think the issue is quite a few people seem to be incapable of seeing or thinking beyond these stereotypes and just reel off the usual bore stuff and in this case, I think that's the issue. This example doesn't have tints, doesn't have a big exhaust, isn't slammed on Poundland coil overs and doesn't have "Mad Bus Club" or "Powered by Fairy dust" stickers all over it and I don't think it ever has - it still has the OEM crossover pipe for the turbo, that's rare!
I also don't think your average angry dad will buy this one... it's too nice... and to be fair, I think the demographic who would buy these cheap, modify them even cheaper and then abuse them have moved on. Just the same as the demographic who used to stick fibre glass body kits to Saxos have moved on. Or the demographic who used to borrow Sapphire Cosworths to visit Dixons at 2am then turn them into bonfires have moved on. Granted, like any "expensive" survivor this won't be bought by somebody looking for a cheap tip run car (why would you?) or bought to stick tear around the Bradford back streets... it'll be bought by somebody who maybe had one back in the day or wanted one back in the day and if that's you, then a nice, clean, unmolested example for £7k might be the bargain of the year.
These sort of topics always go the same way and I always end up sat wondering why car enthusiasts are so derisory of certain cars, unable to see beyond outdated stereotyping and who can't seem to appreciate them for what they are and the fact they existed... and more to the point, that a nice example still exists. Friend of mine's dad, proper car guy... not that you'd know it to look at but he's a savage behind the wheel, ex rally driver etc and yet looks like your stereotypical historian, woolen jumpers and all. His UK car sits in my friends garage - its a 2007 5dr Focus ST in blue, completely standard, very very tidy car. I was never a Ford man, I watched Clarkson shout "ASBO" a lot but that's irrelevant... it s wonderful thing to see and indeed drive, because it's a survivor and a reminder to the days when things were arguably, just a bit more fun.
So true. What a great post and a rare sight on PHs! I also don't think your average angry dad will buy this one... it's too nice... and to be fair, I think the demographic who would buy these cheap, modify them even cheaper and then abuse them have moved on. Just the same as the demographic who used to stick fibre glass body kits to Saxos have moved on. Or the demographic who used to borrow Sapphire Cosworths to visit Dixons at 2am then turn them into bonfires have moved on. Granted, like any "expensive" survivor this won't be bought by somebody looking for a cheap tip run car (why would you?) or bought to stick tear around the Bradford back streets... it'll be bought by somebody who maybe had one back in the day or wanted one back in the day and if that's you, then a nice, clean, unmolested example for £7k might be the bargain of the year.
These sort of topics always go the same way and I always end up sat wondering why car enthusiasts are so derisory of certain cars, unable to see beyond outdated stereotyping and who can't seem to appreciate them for what they are and the fact they existed... and more to the point, that a nice example still exists. Friend of mine's dad, proper car guy... not that you'd know it to look at but he's a savage behind the wheel, ex rally driver etc and yet looks like your stereotypical historian, woolen jumpers and all. His UK car sits in my friends garage - its a 2007 5dr Focus ST in blue, completely standard, very very tidy car. I was never a Ford man, I watched Clarkson shout "ASBO" a lot but that's irrelevant... it s wonderful thing to see and indeed drive, because it's a survivor and a reminder to the days when things were arguably, just a bit more fun.
Edited by Davie on Monday 25th November 15:52
mooseracer said:
Unreal said:
Angry dad nirvana.
Seven grand.
The mantle seems to have been taken up by Hyundai Tuscons around here. Angry Dad must have come good.Seven grand.
The whole angry dad thing is only because dad has been left f
k all time to get 4 kids to 4 different clubs in 4 different places in 3 minutes dead, because kids and mum have faffed around so much all day... wistec1 said:
Even the pigeons fly upside down over these because they're not worth shiiiiiitting on. Then again. It's nice to see one that hasn't shiiit itself then burnt itself out afterwards.
I'd forgotten their habit of spontaneously combusting!https://youtu.be/e8AA3bboV1Y?si=XFVvHmye0E6hIlwN
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/root-c...
I'm glad there are still some excellent survivor cars like this around. Makes the roads a tiny bit more interesting to be on.
As usual, a load of bks negativity, but really, as a driver of many thousands of miles year, I see chomps and idiots in every sort of car. This stereotyping is just out of date now.
Nothing wrong with this Vauxhall.
As usual, a load of b
ks negativity, but really, as a driver of many thousands of miles year, I see chomps and idiots in every sort of car. This stereotyping is just out of date now.Nothing wrong with this Vauxhall.
I've had a few Vauxhalls in years gone by and can't understand the hate for them - they were every bit as good as, if not better, than the Fords I owned from the same era.
I like the fact that Vauxhall made the effort to inject a bit of performance into their MPV too. For anyone on a budget needing more than 5 seats one of these would be a bit of fun, although £7K does seem a bit steep to me.
More than a decade ago I did encounter a few angry dads in Zafiras, but none had GSis or VXRs, and anyway they were just as likely to be in a Scenic or similar.
It's good to see something slightly different around.
I like the fact that Vauxhall made the effort to inject a bit of performance into their MPV too. For anyone on a budget needing more than 5 seats one of these would be a bit of fun, although £7K does seem a bit steep to me.
More than a decade ago I did encounter a few angry dads in Zafiras, but none had GSis or VXRs, and anyway they were just as likely to be in a Scenic or similar.
It's good to see something slightly different around.
The article seems to have forgotten the Meriva VXR existed
Not the greatest omission ever but it's a fact that they did exist, albeit briefly like most performance MPV's
I've never driven or been in a Zafira or Meriva VXR, nor have any desire to do so
Perhaps the "grand daddy" of performance MPV's is the Galaxy/Sharan with the VR6 engine
That I have driven (Galaxy), and I have to say it was so much faster than anyone expected and it went round corners OK
Not the greatest omission ever but it's a fact that they did exist, albeit briefly like most performance MPV's
I've never driven or been in a Zafira or Meriva VXR, nor have any desire to do so
Perhaps the "grand daddy" of performance MPV's is the Galaxy/Sharan with the VR6 engine
That I have driven (Galaxy), and I have to say it was so much faster than anyone expected and it went round corners OK
martin12345 said:
The article seems to have forgotten the Meriva VXR existed
Not the greatest omission ever but it's a fact that they did exist, albeit briefly like most performance MPV's
I've never driven or been in a Zafira or Meriva VXR, nor have any desire to do so
Perhaps the "grand daddy" of performance MPV's is the Galaxy/Sharan with the VR6 engine
That I have driven (Galaxy), and I have to say it was so much faster than anyone expected and it went round corners OK
I borrowed a couple of Galaxys that were company cars my employer kept as pool cars. Not the greatest omission ever but it's a fact that they did exist, albeit briefly like most performance MPV's
I've never driven or been in a Zafira or Meriva VXR, nor have any desire to do so
Perhaps the "grand daddy" of performance MPV's is the Galaxy/Sharan with the VR6 engine
That I have driven (Galaxy), and I have to say it was so much faster than anyone expected and it went round corners OK
One was a manual 2.0 litre Ghia with loads of toys, the other was an Auto 2.3 litre LX - probably bought for the same budget ceiling!
They both drove better than I expected and the 2.3 performed pretty well, so a VR6 must have been fun. Probably quite thirsty though.
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