RE: Electrogenic launches EV conversion kit for MX-5

RE: Electrogenic launches EV conversion kit for MX-5

Thursday 5th December 2024

Electrogenic launches EV conversion kit for MX-5

A battery-powered NA? Sacrilege, right? Well, yes and no...


We’ve talked about Electrogenic’s battery-powered, plug-and-play technology before, most recently when it conducted open heart surgery on Kia UK’s one-off electric Pride. Prior to that, we drove the firm’s expensively overhauled (and it hopes, not one-off) DeLorean DMC-12. Both those cars were appealing because unlike converting a Porsche 911 or Jaguar E-type - where distinctive petrol power is very much part of the recipe - the Pride and DMC-12 did not possess an engine worth keeping in the first place. This made the electrification pill much easier to swallow. 

Its latest EV conversion kit for the Mk1 MX-5 isn’t nearly as black and white given the car’s wholesome lightweight reputation - although you could argue that it comes closer to treading a similar line. This is not to take anything away from Mazda’s original B6ZE four-pot unit; it revved beyond 7,000rpm, let’s not forget, and has provided the buzzy soundtrack to a million memorable summer days. But it was never the most powerful engine in the world (120hp was about its limit) and many if not most have seen an awful lot of life since their ‘90s heyday. Would we want to swap out a pristine example? No. Would we consider transforming something much more leggy? Maybe. 

As ever, Electrogenic does all it can to allay most of the obvious concerns. Yes, the electrified version would be heavier - the firm suggests the end result would weigh around 100kg more than a standard NA - but with 160hp now available to the rear axle, the power-to-weight ratio would have improved by 21 per cent. And despite being made to accommodate 42kWh worth of OEM-grade batteries in the front and back, Electrogenic insists that the MX-5’s weight distribution remains unaffected. That doesn’t mean the handling dynamic will feel exactly the same, of course - but it has endeavoured to mount everything as low as possible to preserve ‘the inherent lightweight, RWD character of the car’. 

Much like its other conversions, no cutting or drilling is required and the firm reckons it only takes a trained installer a few days to complete the transformation. Once done, your electric MX-5 ought to be capable of around 150 miles of range (and promises to fast charge in around an hour at the end of it) and reel in 60mph in 6ish seconds. Thanks to its single-speed, fixed ratio gearbox, the kit can be applied to both manual or automatic derivatives, and Electrogenic has added different drive modes to the mix to suit various scenarios - although likely the most notable difference (predictably enough) is the 228lb ft of torque now immediately available to the crank. 

“We’re delighted with the results,” says company CEO, Steve Drummond. “There’s subtly enhanced performance, a newfound muscularity - and thanks to that instant torque, the joys of the MX-5’s rear-wheel-drive handling balance are more accessible than ever before. This is all combined with zero tailpipe emissions and total reliability. The MX-5 is a defining take on a classic sports car recipe. Now, thanks to our Electrification kits, its special driving experience can be enjoyed by enthusiasts for many decades to come.”

It certainly sounds intriguing enough and Electrogenic promises the kind of ‘OEM polish’ it has already earned a decent reputation for delivering. That’s to be expected based on its prices, though - and while it offers no guidance for the new MX-5 kit, there’s no reason to think that it will be cheap. Or not cheap like buying an old NA used to be in the good old days. It is precisely that level of cost-effectiveness that has seen the Mk1 go from universal availability to vanishing rarity. Number of examples currently for sale on PH? One. And there’s a good chance that if you’re shelling out for a well-preserved one, you’d very much prefer to keep it that way. Still, if there’s one currently putting down roots in your garage, Electrogenic might just have provided you with the perfect excuse to finally do something about it… 


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supacool1

Original Poster:

596 posts

188 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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Nice effort but they could have integrated the rear fog light better than a generic import bolt on....Otherwise no notes from me.

VladD

8,040 posts

274 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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No, no, no. Just fk off you stupid s.

Evil.soup

3,738 posts

214 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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Lol the above post!

I like it, I think this is the way forward with electrification and I am a petrol head. Granted, it's an awful thing to do to an interesting engine, but the MX-5 isn't that special, sorry, sure that will bring on the hate.

The problem here though is, it will cost a fortune and the donor can will most likely have a ton of age related issues to deal with, just adding to the cost.

It's a good concept, just not worth the cost unfortunately.

Electronicpants

2,822 posts

197 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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VladD said:
No, no, no. Just fk off you stupid s.
Don't hold back, tell us what you really think. rofl

Taz73

241 posts

21 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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When they release a price, that's when a true idea of how silly or not this would be, the 1.8 in my na eunos isn't the greatest engine, a K-series in an f/TF sounds better and revs better in both standard and vvc variants, so on the basis of it not being sacrilege, I'd agree, as the engine isn't the best part of the car, light weight and handling balance is however, so I'd like to try this and see how it drives.
Doubtful that I would modify though as this will be very expensive, and in spite of the bland sounding engine, I still enjoy revving it out so would lose that. Of more interest to me would be a rocketeer conversion, another I can't afford.

S600BSB

6,229 posts

115 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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Very nice.

CSNY

152 posts

66 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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A conversion to electric power was something I had at the back of my mind when I got my NA in 2020, but after 4 years of revving the nuts off the 1.8 lump, there's no way I'd change now. I've had an EV as a daily driver for two years and the car was little more than an appliance, something the NA should never be. So it's a no from me....and also you'd really hear all the rattles and clanks and bangs without ICE.

Geoffcapes

860 posts

173 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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If it's power you want, surely fitting a BBR turbo conversion is the better way to go.
More power. Less weight (than the EV) and massively cheaper.
And also sounds better.
With the money saved you could also up rate wheels, brakes, suspension, shocks, the lot.

And still have a pile of cash left.

EV's are certainly not the answer in this case.

Funny how no prices are mentioned. Probably as no one wants a 50 grand MX5!

thecremeegg

2,031 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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Seems a good idea to me! I've had a couple of Mk1 MX5s and the engine is the weakest part by miles.

TheFastFish

4 posts

6 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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The point of an MX5 is the analogue driving experience, mediocre engine included.
The point of electrification is to make cars more environmentally acceptable, but in this case, sounds very expensive.
Solution - get the engine to run on synthetic fuel. It may be more expensive to fill up but for the low miles likely to be driven for me the man maths adds up.

TheFastFish

4 posts

6 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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The point of an MX5 is the analogue driving experience, mediocre engine included.
The point of electrification is to make cars more environmentally acceptable, but in this case, sounds very expensive.
Solution - get the engine to run on synthetic fuel. It may be more expensive to fill up but for the low miles likely to be driven for me the man maths adds up.

Abacus21

156 posts

44 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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The sound and vibration and smells from an ICE engine is what makes the car ...... a car.

Take that away and you dont have the magic formula.

Taz73

241 posts

21 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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On their website the classic mini kit is £21500 + vat for a self install. Can't see this mx5 kit being less.
Whilst I accept the quality of the equipment and general cost of batteries etc justifies the cost to some extent, I'm not sure that an mx5 justifies that outlay.

VladD

8,040 posts

274 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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thecremeegg said:
Seems a good idea to me! I've had a couple of Mk1 MX5s and the engine is the weakest part by miles.
How is it a good idea? If you have £20k free to replace the engine, why just not spend less than half of that making the mediocre engine exceptional?

Or go the Rocketeer route and get 290 bhp for the same money, or less.

Pablo16v

2,269 posts

206 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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I assume the target market for these conversions is wealthy Londoners wanting to run a classic every day? I can sort of see the appeal if you have the financial means and want a fun point & squirt older car for blatting around a large ULEZ hampered city, as the alternatives will be fairly expensive and mainly dull, but for me living in Aberdeenshire with loads of fun B roads on my doorstep I'll just stick with a petrol powered one thanks. I shared a '97 MX5 1.8 Classic with my Dad for 3 years, and it is still one of the most fun cars I've driven.

Benjamonk

95 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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VladD said:
No, no, no. Just fk off you stupid s.
Agreed. What a stupid 🤬ing idea. Totally defeats the point of that car.

benjidog

108 posts

70 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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Electronicpants said:
VladD said:
No, no, no. Just fk off you stupid s.
Don't hold back, tell us what you really think. rofl
rofl

Skodillac

6,593 posts

39 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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Yes. Want.

JJJ.

1,546 posts

24 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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A big NO!

C.A.R.

3,977 posts

197 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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The basic, frugal, reliable petrol engines in these had zero character. I think the biggest loss will be the mechanical interaction with the gearchange.

But let's not mourn the loss of the humble little 1.6 / 1.8 engines, they were hardly mechanical marvels.

If it keeps them on the road for longer then happy days.