Petrol prices whats going on?
Petrol prices whats going on?
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asfault

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13,524 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th March 2025
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Quadratica said:
I bought an EV a year ago, saved about £800 on petrol, £300 on servicing, £180 VED, lost £200 ins and have not had to visit a petrol station.
I don't worry about getting my car burned or spray painted on by the very people that pushed EVs in the first place

cuprabob

18,104 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th March 2025
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Gas1883 said:
First time I’ve seen 128.9 ( tesco notts ) , last week I paid 148.9 ( think it was a bp , melton Mowbray ) .
I think you're telling "porky-pies" smile

tigger1

8,452 posts

244 months

Monday 24th March 2025
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vikingaero said:
Quadratica said:
I bought an EV a year ago, saved about £800 on petrol, £300 on servicing, £180 VED, lost £200 ins and have not had to visit a petrol station.
If you only saved yourself £800 on petrol, then you don't really travel anywhere do you?! It kind of reinforces my view that many EV owners WFH, barely go out and pay £xxx per month for a premium car they rarely use.
Average UK mileage is about 7.5k per year now isn't it?

To that point, what's anyone whinging about petrol prices for at all? One fill up a month in a car with a decent fuel range will cover that. Yeah, there's outliers doing 50k miles a day without a break (hence why they can't ever consider an EV) - but for most people, in an avg car doing avg mileage, monthly fuel is way less than £100/month.

As for rarely using cars - isn't that true for all cars? They (mostly) sit for 98% of the year going nowhere.



BornRageFree

101 posts

95 months

Tuesday 25th March 2025
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tigger1 said:
Average UK mileage is about 7.5k per year now isn't it?

To that point, what's anyone whinging about petrol prices for at all? One fill up a month in a car with a decent fuel range will cover that. Yeah, there's outliers doing 50k miles a day without a break (hence why they can't ever consider an EV) - but for most people, in an avg car doing avg mileage, monthly fuel is way less than £100/month.

As for rarely using cars - isn't that true for all cars? They (mostly) sit for 98% of the year going nowhere.
Well, that may be true for a decent chunk of the population, however I know people (myself included) that spend well over £200 a month on fuel to get to work.
I currently work away from home, living away Mon-Fri. My commute is 130 miles each way, and it has been for 18 months.
I've also previously had a 25 mile daily commute each way, which would give reason for a fill-up every week. I very much doubt I'm alone in this!
People are 'whinging' about fuel prices because it can form a significant chunk of their outgoings every month.
Whilst the AVERAGE mileage may be low (taking your word for that, I don't think you'd deliberately misinform), do we have details for the range of results? Is the lowest 1k, with the highest being 100k?

tigger1

8,452 posts

244 months

Monday 31st March 2025
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BornRageFree said:
tigger1 said:
Average UK mileage is about 7.5k per year now isn't it?

To that point, what's anyone whinging about petrol prices for at all? One fill up a month in a car with a decent fuel range will cover that. Yeah, there's outliers doing 50k miles a day without a break (hence why they can't ever consider an EV) - but for most people, in an avg car doing avg mileage, monthly fuel is way less than £100/month.

As for rarely using cars - isn't that true for all cars? They (mostly) sit for 98% of the year going nowhere.
Well, that may be true for a decent chunk of the population, however I know people (myself included) that spend well over £200 a month on fuel to get to work.
I currently work away from home, living away Mon-Fri. My commute is 130 miles each way, and it has been for 18 months.
I've also previously had a 25 mile daily commute each way, which would give reason for a fill-up every week. I very much doubt I'm alone in this!
People are 'whinging' about fuel prices because it can form a significant chunk of their outgoings every month.
Whilst the AVERAGE mileage may be low (taking your word for that, I don't think you'd deliberately misinform), do we have details for the range of results? Is the lowest 1k, with the highest being 100k?
Like I said, there's exceptions (you being one) - but average (mean) mileage is definitely around 7.5k miles/year. There's no misinformation there at all (intended or otherwise).

Your mileage is far from normal (the only word I can find to describe commuting 60k miles er year is miserable, Jesus)! You can moan about fuel prices, but JohnnyAverageMileage isn't spending a great wedge on petrol each week.

ashenfie

2,226 posts

69 months

Tuesday 1st April 2025
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BornRageFree said:
tigger1 said:
Average UK mileage is about 7.5k per year now isn't it?

To that point, what's anyone whinging about petrol prices for at all? One fill up a month in a car with a decent fuel range will cover that. Yeah, there's outliers doing 50k miles a day without a break (hence why they can't ever consider an EV) - but for most people, in an avg car doing avg mileage, monthly fuel is way less than £100/month.

As for rarely using cars - isn't that true for all cars? They (mostly) sit for 98% of the year going nowhere.
Well, that may be true for a decent chunk of the population, however I know people (myself included) that spend well over £200 a month on fuel to get to work.
I currently work away from home, living away Mon-Fri. My commute is 130 miles each way, and it has been for 18 months.
I've also previously had a 25 mile daily commute each way, which would give reason for a fill-up every week. I very much doubt I'm alone in this!
People are 'whinging' about fuel prices because it can form a significant chunk of their outgoings every month.
Whilst the AVERAGE mileage may be low (taking your word for that, I don't think you'd deliberately misinform), do we have details for the range of results? Is the lowest 1k, with the highest being 100k?
I spend £30 a month on petrol as these days I work from home. The largest expense is the cost of the car and insurance. It does make me wonder if taxing by the mile makes sense to move the tax burden to those using the roads?

andrewpandrew

2,317 posts

12 months

Tuesday 1st April 2025
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asfault said:
Quadratica said:
I bought an EV a year ago, saved about £800 on petrol, £300 on servicing, £180 VED, lost £200 ins and have not had to visit a petrol station.
I don't worry about getting my car burned or spray painted on by the very people that pushed EVs in the first place
Can someone explain this comment for me?

FWIW

3,820 posts

120 months

Tuesday 1st April 2025
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andrewpandrew said:
Can someone explain this comment for me?
Unlikely.

Funky Squirrel

482 posts

95 months

Tuesday 1st April 2025
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andrewpandrew said:
Can someone explain this comment for me?
In the USA some people that are upset with Elon Musk are burning and vandalising privately owned Teslas.

Zio Di Roma

3,389 posts

55 months

Tuesday 1st April 2025
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Funky Squirrel said:
andrewpandrew said:
Can someone explain this comment for me?
In the USA some people that are upset with Elon Musk are burning and vandalising privately owned Teslas.
And in Rome a Tesla dealership has been burned down.

They used petrol as an accelerant because electricity didn’t do the job so well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/31/europe/tesla-cars-f...

DodgyGeezer

46,627 posts

213 months

Tuesday 1st April 2025
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Funky Squirrel said:
andrewpandrew said:
Can someone explain this comment for me?
In the USA some people that are upset with Elon Musk are burning and vandalising privately owned Teslas.

cuprabob

18,104 posts

237 months

Sunday 15th June 2025
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With it all kicking off between Israel & Iran, I fear this thread might sadly make an unwelcome return to the fore frown

Pica-Pica

16,043 posts

107 months

Sunday 15th June 2025
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cuprabob said:
With it all kicking off between Israel & Iran, I fear this thread might sadly make an unwelcome return to the fore frown
Yup. I tanked up with diesel at the nearest Shell on my route this Friday at £1.339. We won’t see that again for quite a while.

donkmeister

11,675 posts

123 months

Sunday 15th June 2025
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ashenfie said:
I spend £30 a month on petrol as these days I work from home. The largest expense is the cost of the car and insurance. It does make me wonder if taxing by the mile makes sense to move the tax burden to those using the roads?
Yes, but those who do 20,000 miles a year won't like that hehe

It's how this debate always goes; I'd be quite alright with the NZ system of road tax and basic insurance being built in to the cost of fuel, plus strict limits on what foreign drivers can bring in. However if I did high miles I might think differently.

Saleen836

12,195 posts

232 months

Sunday 15th June 2025
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donkmeister said:
ashenfie said:
I spend £30 a month on petrol as these days I work from home. The largest expense is the cost of the car and insurance. It does make me wonder if taxing by the mile makes sense to move the tax burden to those using the roads?
Yes, but those who do 20,000 miles a year won't like that hehe

It's how this debate always goes; I'd be quite alright with the NZ system of road tax and basic insurance being built in to the cost of fuel, plus strict limits on what foreign drivers can bring in. However if I did high miles I might think differently.
Depends on how much they add to a litre of fuel, RFL for my daily Astravan is £335 a year, if they added 2ppl I would be £65 a year worse off doing the 20k miles but as my weekend toy is only insured for 3k miles a year and is also £335 I would save £275 a year on that.

vikingaero

12,294 posts

192 months

Sunday 15th June 2025
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Saleen836 said:
donkmeister said:
ashenfie said:
I spend £30 a month on petrol as these days I work from home. The largest expense is the cost of the car and insurance. It does make me wonder if taxing by the mile makes sense to move the tax burden to those using the roads?
Yes, but those who do 20,000 miles a year won't like that hehe

It's how this debate always goes; I'd be quite alright with the NZ system of road tax and basic insurance being built in to the cost of fuel, plus strict limits on what foreign drivers can bring in. However if I did high miles I might think differently.
Depends on how much they add to a litre of fuel, RFL for my daily Astravan is £335 a year, if they added 2ppl I would be £65 a year worse off doing the 20k miles but as my weekend toy is only insured for 3k miles a year and is also £335 I would save £275 a year on that.
If VED is moved to fuel, then the Government will calculate it so the overall tax take will the the same, but in reality use the opportunity to grab more.

I'd argue that every car, BEV/PHEV/ICE needs to pay a standard amount to pay for the registration/keeper process. Why should a BEV have free VED even though we have to pay for the DVLA (apart from to promote the adoption of EV).

Going back to fuel prices, the Asda near work is 123.7p which is pretty cheap compared to some areas.

DodgyGeezer

46,627 posts

213 months

Sunday 15th June 2025
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don't worry we'll be OK Rachel from accounts has pledged to make sure the 'British people' are insulated from any Israel/Iran fallout

Saleen836

12,195 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st June 2025
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DodgyGeezer said:
don't worry we'll be OK Rachel from accounts has pledged to make sure the 'British people' are insulated from any Israel/Iran fallout
Working well, noticed yesterday local BP diesel up by 1ppl and Esso 15 miles away diesel up by 3ppl

ashenfie

2,226 posts

69 months

Saturday 21st June 2025
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Saleen836 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
don't worry we'll be OK Rachel from accounts has pledged to make sure the 'British people' are insulated from any Israel/Iran fallout
Working well, noticed yesterday local BP diesel up by 1ppl and Esso 15 miles away diesel up by 3ppl
I am still getting e10 for £1.249 notably at less stations.

ashenfie

2,226 posts

69 months

Saturday 21st June 2025
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Saleen836 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
don't worry we'll be OK Rachel from accounts has pledged to make sure the 'British people' are insulated from any Israel/Iran fallout
Working well, noticed yesterday local BP diesel up by 1ppl and Esso 15 miles away diesel up by 3ppl
I am still getting e10 for £1.249 notably at less stations.