RE: Wrong Fuel
Discussion
calum said:
to solve that situation - dont buy a diesel, then you wont have any problems
damn right!
I would have to agree.
Some people must go into filling stations with their eyes glued shut... But wouldn't it be possible to make one side of the station for petrol cars and the other for tractors... erm sorry, diesel cars? Surely that would solve the problem...
>> Edited by runnersp on Thursday 19th January 17:00
nightmare said:
Regardless of whether the clever people think that people who do this deserve what they get, and let's hope it never happens to one of them on a bad day, I would say it's poor engineering practice to design a system where a very simple mistake can cause such a catastrophic failure.
People, even highly trained professionals, make mistakes so systems (both technical and social) should be designed to minimise the risk, and the consequences, of those mistakes.
Oh come on!!!! You have to be joking? Why is it always 'someone elses fault' in this country???
I feel sorry for people who make the mistake, but you're either utterly moronic (so shouldnt be driving), blind (so shouldnt be driving) so disinterested in the vehicle that you're in you dont know the fuel (shouldnt be driving) or very very rushed.....and so shouldnt be driving.
poor engineering practice?? do me a favour. If people engaged their brains a bit more often, and didnt think 'someone else has sorted this problem out for me or they should have' then this sort of thing wouldnt happen.
It's a bit like the safety warning on a chainsaw sold in the US - 'Don't stop the moving chain with your genitals' - Why do you need to be told these things? The person to blame for putting the wrong fuel in a car is the person who put it in. Not the petrol station or the car manufacturer. The only choice a driver needs to make is the correct nozzle. They're labeled so where's the problem?
>> Edited by mk1fan on Thursday 19th January 16:18
mk1fan said:
Regardless of whether the clever people think that people who do this deserve what they get, and let's hope it never happens to one of them on a bad day, I would say it's poor engineering practice to design a system where a very simple mistake can cause such a catastrophic failure.
People, even highly trained professionals, make mistakes so systems (both technical and social) should be designed to minimise the risk, and the consequences, of those mistakes.
Oh come on!!!! You have to be joking? Why is it always 'someone elses fault' in this country???
I feel sorry for people who make the mistake, but you're either utterly moronic (so shouldnt be driving), blind (so shouldnt be driving) so disinterested in the vehicle that you're in you dont know the fuel (shouldnt be driving) or very very rushed.....and so shouldnt be driving.
poor engineering practice?? do me a favour. If people engaged their brains a bit more often, and didnt think 'someone else has sorted this problem out for me or they should have' then this sort of thing wouldnt happen.
It's a bit like the safety warning on a chainsaw sold in the US - 'Don't stop the moving chain with your genitals' - Why do you need to be told these things? The person to blame for putting the wrong fuel in a car is the person who put it in. Not the petrol station or the car manufacturer. The only choice a driver needs to make is the correct nozzle. They're labeled so where's the problem?
>> Edited by mk1fan on Thursday 19th January 16:18
Fully agree here.
mightymouse said:
Regardless of whether the clever people think that people who do this deserve what they get, and let's hope it never happens to one of them on a bad day, I would say it's poor engineering practice to design a system where a very simple mistake can cause such a catastrophic failure.
People, even highly trained professionals, make mistakes so systems (both technical and social) should be designed to minimise the risk, and the consequences, of those mistakes.
Oh come on!!!! You have to be joking? Why is it always 'someone elses fault' in this country???
I feel sorry for people who make the mistake, but you're either utterly moronic (so shouldnt be driving), blind (so shouldnt be driving) so disinterested in the vehicle that you're in you dont know the fuel (shouldnt be driving) or very very rushed.....and so shouldnt be driving.
poor engineering practice?? do me a favour. If people engaged their brains a bit more often, and didnt think 'someone else has sorted this problem out for me or they should have' then this sort of thing wouldnt happen.
It's a bit like the safety warning on a chainsaw sold in the US - 'Don't stop the moving chain with your genitals' - Why do you need to be told these things? The person to blame for putting the wrong fuel in a car is the person who put it in. Not the petrol station or the car manufacturer. The only choice a driver needs to make is the correct nozzle. They're labeled so where's the problem?
>> Edited by mk1fan on Thursday 19th January 16:18
Fully agree here.
I fully agree here as well but.................
The reason for this in Yankland is that they just want to sue everybody for every little thing, and unfortunately this poor attitude is fast coming the norm here in Blighty, soon someone will probably sue the car company or petrol station and win, for there own incompetence just because they have an expensive solicitor!!!!!!!
How can you not know you're driving a diesel?!!!
I've got 2 cars, i petrol, the other diesel, never gotten them mixed up, however the petrol is LHD and i've a few times climbed into the passenger seat of the diesel by mistake
Anyway I'm sure if it's a big problem they can make the filler hole on diesels square and petrol round, wouldn't cause the mix up then as you'll not put a square peg in a round hole.
Matthew
I've got 2 cars, i petrol, the other diesel, never gotten them mixed up, however the petrol is LHD and i've a few times climbed into the passenger seat of the diesel by mistake
Anyway I'm sure if it's a big problem they can make the filler hole on diesels square and petrol round, wouldn't cause the mix up then as you'll not put a square peg in a round hole.
Matthew
qube_TA said:
... wouldn't cause the mix up then as you'll not put a square peg in a round hole.
Lol, nice analogy...
but if they changed the nozzles to square, how would you get it in the existing round hole??
i got close to a similar fuel mix up situation, i nearly spent 91p p.litre putting optimax in my run-around car! as i picked up the pump i realised and quickly changed back to regular!
bunglist said:
What A Bunch of Dumb F g Idiots, is it really that difficult picking the correct fuel pump in a petrol station.
If drivers are that oblivious to the world around them, to put diesel in a petrol car and vice versa then they should not be driving a car. Twats
I completely agree. We have eyes and a brain, and it seems that most of us use it when filling up!!!!
neways, how long does it take to LOOK at which fuel you are putting into the car your driving or do you need a big sticker saying DIESEL ONLY or PETROL ONLY
Small and round for Unleaded, and Oval for Diesel. A converter can be made to stick on a Diesel filler neck. Diesel nozzle will then be too tall to go in a Petrol neck, and a Petrol nozzle would be too wide to fit in a Diesel neck. I think its a good idea anyway, and a blanket, simple fix, and it will prevent numpties and other undesireables making such a daft error.
>> Edited by Tazfan on Thursday 19th January 22:17
>> Edited by Tazfan on Thursday 19th January 22:17
Not that I've done it myself (yet), but my solution would be simple - remember those little blocks/hole toys you had when you were a kid? Triangle goes in triangle hole, square peg goes in square hole. Make the damn things a different size/shape and away we go*
*and no, I haven't remotely bothered thinking of the worldwide financial implications of this solution :P
*and no, I haven't remotely bothered thinking of the worldwide financial implications of this solution :P
Master said:
Of course it is a daft mistake, BUT after driving for 30+ years AND filling up xxx times AND when my car is petrol and my wife's is diesel AND they are both new Mercs, IT COULD HAPPEN TP ANYONE. Sympathy or empathy - but scorn not
It's not scorn.
I don't want to listen to people whining on about how it is someone else's fault other than their own. You're right it could happen to anyone but only if they are not paying attention. Would you be so sympathetic if the same level of attention leads to your child being knocked over? Who do you blame then? Radio Four for holding an interesting phone in on house mites and how they are really responsible for global warning?
If a mate of mine said to me 'I did the stupidest thing on Thursday night. I wasn't paying attention and....' Then I would be sympathetic and call him a prat. If he said 'That bl@@dy BP and their pumps made me fill up with desiel.....' I'd tell him it was his fault for not paying attention and call him a prat.
I don't care how long someone has been driving. It is not an excuse for making a simple error. Just pay attention for 4 seconds. It's not that demanding or stressfull don't you know.
Not done it myself but if I lend my car to someone, I make sure I remind them, why? 
Its a Fiat Marea 2.4 HLX 5 cylinder Turbo Diesel, is pretty fast and to a novice driver, may not feel like one. ALSO, ther's not a single diesel badge on the car, the only warning being in small letters on the black filler cap itself. In a dark garage on a dark, rainy night, I can see it happening!
Its a Fiat Marea 2.4 HLX 5 cylinder Turbo Diesel, is pretty fast and to a novice driver, may not feel like one. ALSO, ther's not a single diesel badge on the car, the only warning being in small letters on the black filler cap itself. In a dark garage on a dark, rainy night, I can see it happening!
Unfortunately I think a chunk of responsibility for this is down to the filling station. A few years ago BP in their infinite wisdom decided to introduce some ultimate fuel or other and overnight green went from being unleaded to diesel. The AA man that came to see us said that it was his 10th call by 630 in the morning! (incidently BP admitted fault and paid out to everyone). Their are to me a few options
1 - Standardisation across all filling stations
2 - Make them all white and then we have to read them, why bother colour coding them when it counts for nothing! Bit of a no brainer!
1 - Standardisation across all filling stations
2 - Make them all white and then we have to read them, why bother colour coding them when it counts for nothing! Bit of a no brainer!
bunglist said:
What A Bunch of Dumb F
If drivers are that oblivious to the world around them, to put diesel in a petrol car and vice versa then they should not be driving a car. Twats
Confucius, he say....
One day, world will look at bunglist and mercilessly take piss.
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