RE: Michiel van den Brink

RE: Michiel van den Brink

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dinkel

26,886 posts

257 months

Friday 17th November 2006
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Michiel Mobiel said:
trenchtown said:
Al het succes in de toekomst toegewenst!

That car just radiates passion. Its like a young Sophia Loren on wheels! bounce


Dank je!

Sophia resemblance is no coincidence....


Here we go again: what did I say about Sophia Loren Michiel ?

Anyways, we must meet soon.

midnightDriver

118 posts

227 months

Saturday 18th November 2006
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Bleeding gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nuff sed

edfoxuk

203 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th November 2006
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Its a dead ringer for the Marcos! just look at the profile and the rear end.

scott64

236 posts

250 months

Saturday 18th November 2006
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That is some car god can you imagine opening the garage dooor to that every morning! A truly well designed car must look awsome in the flesh. So if any film directors reading this can you give me a highly paid role so I can get me this work of art!

prelude4ws

590 posts

273 months

Saturday 18th November 2006
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Los Angeles said:
scratchchin Is there an alternative to the Nascar air ducts cluttering the bonnet line?


Inclined to agree with you there LA the other details on the car look pretty well resolved and the rear 3/4 view is simply stunning! The rear of the car is often the hardest part to get "right" (I could never have an AM Vanquish, it's rear bumper is awful!) so that this car is so right is no mean feat.

I think Ferrari need to wake up a bit as there are now a number of cars based on there top end products that are substantially better the factory effort.

I would really be interested to find out how those images were rendered. I think I know how, but its always interesting to discover other designers techniques!

Michiel Mobiel

78 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th November 2006
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prelude4ws said:
I would really be interested to find out how those images were rendered. I think I know how, but its always interesting to discover other designers techniques!

These impressions are made in Photoshop.
This is not an exact 3D-model rendering and the design is still in development.

sprinter885

11,550 posts

226 months

Saturday 18th November 2006
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Well done young Sir !! clapI always respect talent bow(tho' even I'm a bit old to still admire Sophia Loren !!) Best wishes with your venture & just maybe Mr Smolensky could do with placing a call to your studio!!

p.s Mind you you had a good base to start from. A REAL test would be to see what you could do with one of these!!www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&t=327557

Edited by sprinter885 on Saturday 18th November 11:45

Rum Runner

2,338 posts

216 months

Saturday 18th November 2006
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Very nice , have to say though one thing i would change is the step betwen the door and the rear wheel arch its a little bit like the new MX5 which in my view does not quite work. I think a slight inward curve to the door then following out to the wing / wheel arch in one swoop, instead of flat door then big flared arch !!!. Otherwise stunning.

Edited by Rum Runner on Saturday 18th November 16:25

prelude4ws

590 posts

273 months

Saturday 18th November 2006
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Michiel Mobiel said:
prelude4ws said:
I would really be interested to find out how those images were rendered. I think I know how, but its always interesting to discover other designers techniques!

These impressions are made in Photoshop.
This is not an exact 3D-model rendering and the design is still in development.


Yay! I was right. That's some pretty good photo shop work there, its become something of the tool of choice these days. It can be tricky to get to grips with it at first if you've come from a marker and pastel background but the end results are normally well worth it.

Cant wait for the 3D model!

klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

254 months

Sunday 19th November 2006
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sprinter885 said:
p.s Mind you you had a good base to start from. A REAL test would be to see what you could do with one of these!!www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&t=327557
Easy, a Pininfarina fan like Michiel would make something beautiful like this out of it:


(edited to say: I mean the car in the background, ofcourse...)

Edited by klassiekerrally on Sunday 19th November 10:55

Twincam16

27,646 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th November 2006
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Davel said:
Stunning

It makes you wonder why even 'conventional everyday cars' these days have to be so bland and boring.

All it needs is a bit of flair.

So many prototypes look really exciting and then, if they ever get to production, they filter down to the something extremely uninspiring.


I was wondering this. I think the only mainstream family car manufacturer (of course as Michiel has said there are many smaller marques with pure designs) to offer any genuine flair these days is Alfa Romeo. And it's all down to the edges.

Let me explain - thanks to obtrusive safety legislation and the infantile retro influences of the '90s, we've got ourselves in a situation with design where the defining characteristics of each marque look like they've been drawn on the outside of a balloon. The VW Beetle is by far the worst offender for this.

Only three mainstream marques have gone against this grain - BMW, Jaguar and Alfa Romeo. Chris Bangle's BMW designs have reintroduced sharp lines, although they are deceptive - they work well to hide the fact that the typical modern-car bulk remains underneath.
Jaguar have stuck to their traditional design briefs. However, thankfully for them the traditional flowing, billowing Jaguar forms actually suit modern safety legislation, so they've been lucky there.

However, Alfa Romeo have managed to retain sharp edges and add substance to their traditional design trademarks whilst avoiding bulkiness. Look at a 159, or a Brera, or a 147 - the grille is a solid-looking chrome sculpture - not a plastic thing smeared thinly on a balloon-like bonnet a la Seat.

And look at the lines around the headlinghts - sharp, crisp edges of metal - BMW abandoned that in the early '90s.

I'm so glad a leading designer has noticed this.

What's the Dutch for Carosserie? I hope you build a legacy equal to any Italian or French great.

carl_w

9,154 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th November 2006
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Twincam16 said:
Let me explain - thanks to obtrusive safety legislation and the infantile retro influences of the '90s, we've got ourselves in a situation with design where the defining characteristics of each marque look like they've been drawn on the outside of a balloon. The VW Beetle is by far the worst offender for this.
Or the current Seat Leon.

klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

254 months

Sunday 19th November 2006
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Twincam16 said:
What's the Dutch for Carosserie? I hope you build a legacy equal to any Italian or French great.

Hi TC, carrosserie is the Dutch word for the body of a car. I didn't know that word exists in English as well? (Or am I misunderstanding things here?)

Edited by klassiekerrally on Sunday 19th November 19:20

dinkel

26,886 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th November 2006
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Carrosserie = body shell.

klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

254 months

Sunday 19th November 2006
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Thanks dink

oagent

1,765 posts

242 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Nice work Michiel, it looks like you have a very pretty car on your hands.
In my opinion it could do with the wheelbase being shortened a bit. The 599 looks overly long as standard when compared to the 575. A shorter wheelbase would give it a more sporting character, just as the 250 GTO / SWB were 12" or so shorter than the lusso of the same period. If I had the money I would certainly order one, ideally with a Zagato style double bubble roof line and a few inches out of the middle

Michiel Mobiel

78 posts

210 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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oagent said:
In my opinion it could do with the wheelbase being shortened a bit. The 599 looks overly long as standard when compared to the 575. A shorter wheelbase would give it a more sporting character, just as the 250 GTO / SWB were 12" or so shorter than the lusso of the same period.

I don't want to change any of the techniques and structure.
The chassis is very, very good as it is and I don't want to get any trouble with safety and legislation.
The 599 has a LWB for a reason and who am I to doubt Ferrari?

Twincam16

27,646 posts

257 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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klassiekerrally said:
Twincam16 said:
What's the Dutch for Carosserie? I hope you build a legacy equal to any Italian or French great.

Hi TC, carrosserie is the Dutch word for the body of a car. I didn't know that word exists in English as well? (Or am I misunderstanding things here?)

Edited by klassiekerrally on Sunday 19th November 19:20


It doesn't - it's a French word that roughly translates as 'coachbuilder' in English (although I understand its meaning is closer to 'body shell designer/builder). The Italian word is Carrozierra. Both are used to describe the great design houses and coachbuilders - Pininfarina, Zagato, Bertone et al.

randlemarcus

13,507 posts

230 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Twincam16 said:
klassiekerrally said:
Twincam16 said:
What's the Dutch for Carosserie? I hope you build a legacy equal to any Italian or French great.

Hi TC, carrosserie is the Dutch word for the body of a car. I didn't know that word exists in English as well? (Or am I misunderstanding things here?)

Edited by klassiekerrally on Sunday 19th November 19:20


It doesn't - it's a French word that roughly translates as 'coachbuilder' in English (although I understand its meaning is closer to 'body shell designer/builder). The Italian word is Carrozierra. Both are used to describe the great design houses and coachbuilders - Pininfarina, Zagato, Bertone et al.

Just for posterity, and with no ulterior motive, klassiekerrally, could you do me a small favour, and remind me which sort of passport you have, and which language you speak on a daily basis?

richie666

3 posts

209 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Watch your back Ferrari you should employ this guy!!