M5 or not an M5?

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A4_Family_Man

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420 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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A neighbour has bought a used M5. He has been raving over how great the car is.

It certainly looks the business and I have been really pleased for him that he's upgraded his motor to something really decent.

He bought the car with a private reg M5 XXX, and out of interest idea thought I'd look it up on the DVLA vehicle check. I turns out the car comes up with 2494CC??

Now either he's telling porkies to everyone or he's been duped in some way.

The said vehicle has M5 badge, top alloys etc and 4 pipes.

I'm not a beemer chap myself - can someone tell me how to spot if this is the real Mccoy?

equinox

504 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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ears

One is a very good strait six, the other is a perfect V8 !!

Equinox

911JUS

2,385 posts

237 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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speedo ?
side vents if its a e60 ?
smg if its a e60 ?

J

hab

3,632 posts

227 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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Ask him to open the bonnet. If it's got BMW M POWER written in big letters,its an M5. (Not sure if this applies to the E60)

johnnymaestro

4,775 posts

223 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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Take a pic,

We'll decidehehe

V8 or S6 sound is the best way.

A4_Family_Man

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420 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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I really don't want to be some nosy busy-body neighbour but at the same time I don't want him ripped off.

Tricky one..

A4_Family_Man

Original Poster:

420 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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It's an E39 btw

m3evo2

2,064 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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sporty seats, sporty wing mirrors, m badge on speedo and red needles.

surely this chap must know, 2.5 6 and 5.0 V8 is some difference.

A4_Family_Man

Original Poster:

420 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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m3evo2 said:
sporty seats, sporty wing mirrors, m badge on speedo and red needles.

surely this chap must know, 2.5 6 and 5.0 V8 is some difference.


You would have thought so. I'll listen out for a V8!

Sharief

6,338 posts

216 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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I generally tell by the wing mirrors.

kermitman

4,724 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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A4_Family_Man said:
It's an E39 btw


E39 M5 (1998-2003)

2003 BMW M5
the E39 M5 was not handbuilt at the BMW M GmbH factory; it was produced on the same assembly line as the normal E39 5-series at the Dingolfing factory in Germany.

Introduced in 1998 at the Geneva Motor Show, production did not begin until late October of that year. A total of 20,482 E39 M5s were made from 1998 to 2003. BMW M produced three versions of the E39 M5, the European LHD and RHD versions and the North American specification version.

The E39 M5 had a highly tuned V8 engine based on the M62 engine called the S62, which displaced 4.9 L and produced 400 bhp. The engine featured a 7000 RPM redline, Double-VANOS, which varies the intake and exhaust valves for both cylinder banks, and individual throttle butterflies for each of the cylinders, allowing for a much faster engine response time.

All E39 M5s were equipped with a Getrag Type D six-speed manual transmission


edited to say, how up to date is the DVLA vehicle check? maybe this plate has come from another bmw before it was put onto this car and he bought it.


by the way arent you being a little sad in looking up his details?








Edited by kermitman on Wednesday 28th March 23:08

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

210 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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On E39 Wing mirrors and 4 exhaust pipes are the main clues.
Also it should have a manual 6 speed gearbox.

The number plate might have recently been transferred from another car, and still shows as the car it used to be on.

shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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A4_Family_Man said:
A neighbour has bought a used M5. He has been raving over how great the car is.

It certainly looks the business and I have been really pleased for him that he's upgraded his motor to something really decent.

He bought the car with a private reg M5 XXX, and out of interest idea thought I'd look it up on the DVLA vehicle check. I turns out the car comes up with 2494CC??

Now either he's telling porkies to everyone or he's been duped in some way.

The said vehicle has M5 badge, top alloys etc and 4 pipes.

I'm not a beemer chap myself - can someone tell me how to spot if this is the real Mccoy?


IRTA The green eyed monster has visited me now that my neighbour has bought a considerably nicer car than my own. I now have an obsession in doing DVLA searches to try and bring him down a peg or two. I may have caught him out. Please help.

A4_Family_Man

Original Poster:

420 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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shnozz said:
A4_Family_Man said:
A neighbour has bought a used M5. He has been raving over how great the car is.

It certainly looks the business and I have been really pleased for him that he's upgraded his motor to something really decent.

He bought the car with a private reg M5 XXX, and out of interest idea thought I'd look it up on the DVLA vehicle check. I turns out the car comes up with 2494CC??

Now either he's telling porkies to everyone or he's been duped in some way.

The said vehicle has M5 badge, top alloys etc and 4 pipes.

I'm not a beemer chap myself - can someone tell me how to spot if this is the real Mccoy?




IRTA The green eyed monster has visited me now that my neighbour has bought a considerably nicer car than my own. I now have an obsession in doing DVLA searches to try and bring him down a peg or two. I may have caught him out. Please help.


You caught me out! laugh

Not quite - it's really not my cup of char. My concern is more altruistic.

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

225 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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ask him to take you for a spin, youll soon find out.

vincenz85

10 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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For the E39 M5 I think all the distinguishing marks have been covered: exhaust pipes, wing mirrors, wheels. But to tell from the outside the dials are a dead give away
For anything less than an M5 the dials look like:

whereas an M5 dials look like:

Grey background with dots between numbers
(excuse the big pic it was the only one i could find)
If these have been changed then its had some serious modifications for a 525

negative creep

24,980 posts

227 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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If you try the RAC vehicle check it often comes up with the vehicle model

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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ask for a spin in it! you will know if its an M5 cool

thinfourth

1,189 posts

221 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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Strangly enough my neighbour just got a courtesy car. He was all happy and told me it was an M3. I question the 318i badge on the back and the four doors. to which he replies "well its got a m badge on the gearknob, and the wheels, and the steering wheel"

Great bloke, knows all about cars

Dakkon

7,826 posts

253 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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Ask him how much he spends on petrol, then you will know if its an M5