RE: TOKYO 2007: THE SKY'S THE LIMIT

RE: TOKYO 2007: THE SKY'S THE LIMIT

Friday 26th October 2007

Tokyo 2007: The Sky's The Limit

Away from the bright lights of the Tokyo Motor Show, Fifth Gear presenter and PH scribbler Jonny Smith gets up close and personal with Nissan’s new GT-R.


Which way to the UK?
Which way to the UK?
The world has been waiting for a new Far Eastern supercar slayer since the death of the legendary Skyline R34 nearly six years ago.

In that time disguised prototypes have been spied lapping race tracks around the world but no official details were released.

Recently some details of Nissan's Godzilla were illegally leaked early by the American press prior to its launch, but the car's intricate details were still under wraps.

Fifth Gear presenter and PistonHeads writer Jonny Smith was one of the few people to be flown to Japan 24-hours before the Tokyo motor-show and given a secret tour of the new car, even before the Japanese media...

 

Deep underground in a clinical car park beneath the neon-lit metropolis Nissan's designers and engineers tugged the sheets off the finest, most innovative supercar to ever come out of Japan.

The atmosphere was electric.

Years of anticipation turned straight into fever pitch awe.

Nissan had set out to create 'the ultimate supercar for anyone, anywhere, at anytime'.

They wanted to lap the Nürburgring quicker than a Porsche 911 Turbo on one hand and provide respectable fuel economy in the other.

The result is 473bhp, 3.8-litre V6, twin-turbo, 4-wheel drive and a claimed 0-60mph of 3.5 seconds and 194mph.

Porsche or Ferrari drivers take note – in two year's time this car will be hassling your rear view mirror.

 

GROWER ON THE EYE

Much like the Scoobies and Evos of yesteryear, no one can honestly say a Skyline is a pretty car.

Nissan Design Director Shiron Nakamura stressed the new GT-R is not derived from a current coupé or saloon.

'We wanted to create an original shape. A car influenced not by feminine beauty but by masculine beauty,' he explained.

With its slash edged body shape and hallmark quad porthole taillights, it's strangely attractive.

It's a fully-fledged muscle machine that looks to the future without forgetting its Skyline roots, which began way back in 1964.

 

WINDTUNNEL LOVER

Much of the steel, carbon fibre and diecast aluminium shell was sculpted for the wind tunnel, not the eyes, giving the new GT-R a 0.27 Cd drag co-efficiency rating and race-car quantities of downforce.

Hell, even Group Lotus was pulled in for consultation duties. So slippery is the GT-R that Nissan reckon in-cabin conversation is effortless at 186mph.

 

62-0 MPH IN 36.9 METRES

The GT-R's anchors are astonishing - officially the best braking performance of any car to undergo Japan's compulsory type approval tests.

Those 255/40/20 and 285/35/20 run-flat Bridgestones are clenched to a halt via Brembo monoblock six-pot callipers and drilled steel 380mm floating discs with diamond shaped vents that aid cooling.

 

ACTIVE SUSPENSION

Suspension duties are handled through a special electrically controlled Bilstein DampTronic system, which uses information from the car to provide appropriate damping force.

There are three suspension modes: R (high performance), Sports (the normal setting) and Comfort (for city driving to absorb problems that local councils have neglected).

 

VR38DETT 3.8 V6 ENGINE

Purists may mourn the loss of the straight-six RB26 engine (which had to go for emissions reasons) but the new distant relative of the 350Z 'VQ' V6 won't disappoint.

At 3799cc it's a bigger capacity, and to help it achieve 473bhp (delivered @ 7000rpm) there is a pair of IHI turbochargers and plasma coated bores.

Peak torque for the 1740kg car is 433lb ft and most of that is available between 3200rpm and 5200rpm.

The VR38 engine will be completely hand-built, a la brands like Aston, Merc AMG and Rolls.

'More important than the absolute power, is the manner in which it is delivered,' said chief vehicle engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno.

'The engine's very tractable and that means it's very easy to drive, a key quality of the GT-R. It needs to be enjoyable not scary'.

Nissan have also taken the time to ensure their supercar is also relatively fuel efficient though no mpg figures have been released yet.

 

PREMIUM MID-SHIP TRANSMISSION

This is the world's first car with independent transaxle 4WD.

In the name of supreme weight distribution Nissan have mounted their all-new 'GR6' transmission, transfer case and final drive at the back end instead of the front.

Like the R34, the 4WD system is mechanically operated but computer controlled.

Unlike the R34 the new GT-R has not got four wheel steering. When you're driving normally the GT-R is a rear-wheel drive car, but it can shift up to 50 percent of traction up front if/when things get out of hand.

 

AUTOMATIC? IN A SKYLINE?

Yep, the new GT-R is an auto. But fear not, this six-speed Borg Warner six-plate dual-clutch system can be paddle-shift operated like most supercars when you feel the need.

Shift times take just 0.2 seconds, achieved by odd numbers being pre-selected when even numbers are engaged and vice-versa, like VW's DSG system.

 

INTERIOR IN QUALITY SHOCKER

Nissan realised that the R34's Achilles heel was its Almera-spec dash.

You'll be glad to know the GT-R is a leap in evolution, featuring sculpted luxurious leather/Alcantara buckets and decent plastics.

The detailed instrument panel has been developed by the game makers of Gran Turismo and displays Skyline hallmarks like a g-force meter.

 

HONED AT THE 'RING

GTR chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno told PistonHeads that his baby had covered over 3000 miles at the Nordschleife and avoided other circuits as they were deemed 'too easy'.

Nissan's original target was to beat the 911 Turbo at the 'ring but they ended up worrying the Porsche Carrera GT.

They didn't beat the GT's 7min 32sec lap time, but got a 7.38 in semi-wet conditions.

'We used cut slick tyres' said Mizuno.

'I was not interested in full slick times as this bears no resemblance to a road tyre. 1.2G of force was being pulled in wet and over 2 in dry'.

 

AND IT'S OUT WHEN?

The GT-R goes on sale in Japan this December, but it won't reach the UK until March 2009 according to Nissan UK. Don't expect much change from £65,000 here in the UK, but in Japan the basic GT-R is likely to go for around £33,000.

Americans will be whooping with joy as Nissan have promised left-hand drive models of their scorching flagship for 2008.

Nissan head honcho Carlos Ghosn has the very first car - the lucky git.











 

 

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Neomagic

Original Poster:

386 posts

136 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Absolutely sick, and I disagree it is a good looking car especially in comparison to most of today’s space age looking cars.

Fume Troll

4,389 posts

147 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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I want one even more now.

Cheers,

FT.

chrisbr68

3,797 posts

183 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Wow! I want one of those!

2G in the dry and over 1 on a wet track! So are cut slicks road legal then? Surely those numbers are second only to the Caparo?

Cant wait to see it in the flesh biggrin

jking

25 posts

178 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Bloody Japs.....I told them NOT to lay out the intercoolers like that!!!! At least they have done a good job with the oil cooler, and it needs it!

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

161 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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I would say YES!! Many times over on this one. Is there anyone rich enough to import one, seeing as they will be available in Japan from December this year, and give me some pax laps in it. PLEEEEEEASE!! bowbiggrin
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tomtom

3,993 posts

165 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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That's bloody fast.

How much are they then? (Yen)

96eight

43 posts

169 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Mine should be in the UK in January. No idea of price I'm afraid.

White

DannyR

398 posts

135 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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come to papa!

Sparky69

131 posts

151 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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tomtom said:
That's bloody fast.

How much are they then? (Yen)

Between 71/2 and 81/2 million yen dep on spec.

SpyderPig

56 posts

135 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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any idea what lateral g it generates with road tires? how much downforce does it produce???

911motorsport

7,251 posts

168 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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WOW

bowbow

now THAT it what I call a well written and detailed article!!

More like that please yes

Oh, car's not bad either hehe

deevlash

10,442 posts

172 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Great article! I love the fact the engine isnt totally shrouded in black plastic too biggrin

dj_mdma

86 posts

154 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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What a crappy little intercooler!!

I can see all the big tuning firms lining up with there big FMIC kits for extra cooling so you'll be able to up the boost safely! Over 500 bhp easily i would have thought!

Code Monkey

3,190 posts

192 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Does anyone want to buy a kidney?

hmm thinking about it can I survive with only one lung? going rate for that must be pretty good get me half the car at least biggrin

NotNormal

2,088 posts

149 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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dj_mdma said:
What a crappy little intercooler!!

I can see all the big tuning firms lining up with there big FMIC kits for extra cooling so you'll be able to up the boost safely! Over 500 bhp easily i would have thought!
Don't forget there will be two of them (one for each side of the bank). So what your seeing is only the cooling for 3 of the cylinders.

But yes I agree it won't be long before bigger ones will be available as well as hard pipe kits to get rid of those nasty black rubber jobbies. Will be interesting to see how much they "over engineered" this engine to cope with big power like the old RB26 was

Must admit I was a bit sceptical but this car really is starting to grow on me in the looks department yes

jking

25 posts

178 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Ref my comment above, there are actually two intercoolers, one for each bank of the engine. "Our" recommendation was to make the intercoolers the same height (and each half the width) of the main radiator so the intercooler end tanks did not shroud the main radiator, which would obviously effect cooling performance - this obviously has not been done!

The original scheme had the right hand compressor (feeding though the right hand intercooler) feeding the left hand bank of cylinders and vice versa via the intake primary pipes crossing over in the vee....it is hard to say whether they have kept that scheme from the pictures.

The engine is designed to cope with 1.6g lateral acceleration....it can do this for about 5-8 seconds before the oil pressure drops too much....it would have no problem with 1.3g continious lateral acceleration, but I suspect normal road tyres would struggle to deliver this for too long!!!

jking

25 posts

178 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Oh yes, if you look through some comments Nissan are basically saying that it will not be tuneable.....the engine was optimised for the horsepower it delivers and won't take more than 600Bhp before it will fall apart!

Kawasicki

5,584 posts

170 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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chrisbr68 said:
Wow! I want one of those!

2G in the dry and over 1 on a wet track! So are cut slicks road legal then? Surely those numbers are second only to the Caparo?

Cant wait to see it in the flesh biggrin
2G on slicks, cut slicks, but not what you will be driving on the road. This will also probably be a peak figure, for a fraction of a second, not a sustained lateral accel.

If it gets 1.5G lateral on road legal tyres that would be impressive. I'd also like to see what those tyres would be like on standing water. All the chassis technology in the world can only use the grip the tyres will give. With the right tyres a tuned mk2 escort could also hit 2G lateral, with ancient tech.

Don't believe the hype, it's a great car, but it still obeys physics!

shane


flattotheboards

6,667 posts

141 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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i need one of those!

Marf

22,907 posts

176 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Looks good in red cloud9