Urban myths about cars

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mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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omgus said:
As it had been debunked on this thread I now feel the world is a worse place now I know that the Mitsi Starion wasn't the product of a telephone error. frown
What about this then?


Jammy2008

3,112 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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anonymous said:
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That's why Silver is THE Merc colour. I'm sure that it's true.

JR

12,722 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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omgus said:
Although first heard from Clarkson (so pinch of salt already taken) I would like to know if it is true that TVR just ignored euro rules about ABS for the Sagaris because they "didn't get the memo" or if low volume manufacturers had a different set of rules to follow. I really want that to be true.
Like the dog one above I guess that some people just like to believe... well I don't know what. The truth is that in some areas like moving the cats closer to the engine to assist warm up TVR were ahead of the game. TVR were also one of the last manufacturer's of cars in the world - as opposed to assemblers. Those that want to believe that Aston crushing performance was the result of dogs, cats and lost memos are probably the reason that engineers don't get much respect in this country. (For the guy above, yes, one of PRW's dogs was called Ned.)

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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omgus said:
As it had been debunked on this thread I now feel the world is a worse place now I know that the Mitsi Starion wasn't the product of a telephone error. frown

Although first heard from Clarkson (so pinch of salt already taken) I would like to know if it is true that TVR just ignored euro rules about ABS for the Sagaris because they "didn't get the memo" or if low volume manufacturers had a different set of rules to follow. I really want that to be true.
If you build up to 500 of any particular model per year, you're exempt from certain Euro-regulations. TVR knew this (at one point Smolenski said every model would be a limited-edition of 500), as do Morgan (hence it takes ages for them to build each car, there's a waiting list and a deliberately limited production capacity). Same goes for just about every kit car company in Britain.

IMO it's a pity fewer European manufacturers take advantage of this clause. Think of the kind of hardcore nuttermobiles Ferrari and Porsche could turn out if they only built 500 of them?

omgus

7,305 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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JR said:
Rant about people believing things and not respecting engineers
Yes because in my wish that a company could have ignored something they feel was not needed for their product and covered it with a quip I was clearly highlighting my lack of respect for engineers, both TVR's own and in general. The fact that I had mentioned that I was dubious of that myth because of the source means nothing to you.

Eta to thank twincam for answering my question, and to remove something unnnesacary.

Edited by omgus on Wednesday 16th June 13:28

JR

12,722 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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anonymous said:
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monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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marcosgt said:
varsas said:
matt3001 said:
On the radio this morning I heard that it is possible to tell what side of the car your fuel cap is on by seeing which side of the little fuel diagram the pump is on!

It works on my BMW but not tried it out on anything else!
Steve Sutcliffe recently evangelised this myth...and he really should know better.
It's true of a lot of recent cars, perhaps it's not a myth at all, but something recent?

M.
It's not true.

PeteG

4,267 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Drive Blind said:
what about the guy driving home in his nearly new Jag.

Arrives first on the scene after a woman had crashed. Being a good guy he stops to help and suggests that she waits in his car until the emergency services arrive. Her car is a write off.

The ambulance guys arrive and ask if she's in any trouble. 'Just got a sore neck' she replies. They slap the neck brace on her and then get the fire brigade to cut the top off the car to get her out.

Insurance doesn't cover it, Jag man is 30K out of pocket.
Seems true - http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/news/Man-s-car-r...

And of course - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1085055/Pi...

JR

12,722 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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PeteG said:
Drive Blind said:
what about the guy driving home in his nearly new Jag.

Arrives first on the scene after a woman had crashed. Being a good guy he stops to help and suggests that she waits in his car until the emergency services arrive. Her car is a write off.

The ambulance guys arrive and ask if she's in any trouble. 'Just got a sore neck' she replies. They slap the neck brace on her and then get the fire brigade to cut the top off the car to get her out.

Insurance doesn't cover it, Jag man is 30K out of pocket.
Seems true - http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/news/Man-s-car-r...

And of course - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1085055/Pi...
I like how a Focus changed into a nearly new Jag.

5pen

1,891 posts

206 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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27 months on, does anybody know if the OP's story about the 3-litre Clio is true?

I seem to recall the story involved VW rushing to display the super-economy Lupo at the motor show when the Clio was launched, though it always sounded like a convenient story made-up after the event to me.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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5pen said:
27 months on, does anybody know if the OP's story about the 3-litre Clio is true?

I seem to recall the story involved VW rushing to display the super-economy Lupo at the motor show when the Clio was launched, though it always sounded like a convenient story made-up after the event to me.
Its cobblers. RenaultSport stated early on they were working on a V6 car.

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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mat205125 said:
omgus said:
As it had been debunked on this thread I now feel the world is a worse place now I know that the Mitsi Starion wasn't the product of a telephone error. frown
What about this then?

Very good question, and what on earth does have to do with Urban Myths about cars?

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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monthefish said:
mat205125 said:
omgus said:
As it had been debunked on this thread I now feel the world is a worse place now I know that the Mitsi Starion wasn't the product of a telephone error. frown
What about this then?

Very good question, and what on earth does have to do with Urban Myths about cars?
Zero, however an interesting (in the eye of the beholder) tangent from the Starion discussion.

Slightly more petrol related, there is also the Honda CBR900 Fireblade - I read that Fireblade was a mistaken translation of the Lightning name that the bike was meant to wear.

finlo

3,759 posts

203 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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OnTheOverrun said:
finlo said:
syncro. said:
Danny S said:
Engineer1 said:
It is better, it reduces the load on the starter, and also prevents any problems of being started in gear. Some manufacturers even put a switch in the ignition system meaning it won't start unless the clutch is depressed
i believe ford vans have this system?
I don't think it is, I'd rather not load up the un-lubricated thrust bearing in the engine then turn it over. Much better in my oppion is to slightly increase the stress on the starter and wait till the thrust bearing is lubricated before loading it up!

I though the clutch switch thing was to stop people trying to start cars in gear in this safety concious world we now live!
Chrysler voyagers wont crank until the clutch pedal is fully depressed.

Edited by finlo on Tuesday 15th June 21:35


Edited by finlo on Tuesday 15th June 21:36
Can you get a manual Voyager? I thought they were all auto with a column change?
Dont know about more recent models but the one we had (a 1997 2.0L )was definitely a manual and a POS.

Matt UK

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17,697 posts

200 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Podie said:
5pen said:
27 months on, does anybody know if the OP's story about the 3-litre Clio is true?

I seem to recall the story involved VW rushing to display the super-economy Lupo at the motor show when the Clio was launched, though it always sounded like a convenient story made-up after the event to me.
Its cobblers. RenaultSport stated early on they were working on a V6 car.
Ahh, closure smile

Or888t

1,686 posts

173 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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V8A*ndy said:
Or888t said:
jatinder said:
peterbean said:
The best one I ever heard;-

"If you twist the hazard lights switch in a Vauxhall Nova it starts every time due to the ignition and lighting looms on the same cable..."
No if you take it out without breaking it, turn it aound and plug it back in. You could bump start the car.

Edited by jatinder on Friday 14th March 13:01
100% me and a mate did it ina 1st shape corsa... repeatedly, some time last year, something werid goes on when you put the lights on aswell. can't remember what.

The old ford things completly true aswell seen that done, any worn ford key will fit in any worn ford lock and work.
How people ever found that out about the Novas i'll never know. I remember this well and a mate had his sisters (face lifted interior) Nova one night and we tried it and it bump started. Although the steering was still locked and the switch seemed a little hot when putting back the right way around.

I was actually amazed that it did actually work.
haha exactly, can't drive it coz the steerings still locked and, i remember now, the hazard warning light does get a little hot aswell haha.
i was equally shocked that u can drive any old ford with any old ford key tho! with the boot it working for the boot lock more so.

Or888t

1,686 posts

173 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Garett said:
Hear this one from a guy at work yesterday talking about a new engine being run in.

"they don't reach the maximum efficiency until the there's been a built up of carbon to help reinforce the seals"



Errrrrr, you what mate?! confusedlaugh
HAHA
one for this thread that mate
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

cupraglasgow

171 posts

178 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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I was told that the 205 gti 1.9 came with a government health warning due to its great speed or something? True or False

fergus91

72 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Podie said:
5pen said:
27 months on, does anybody know if the OP's story about the 3-litre Clio is true?

I seem to recall the story involved VW rushing to display the super-economy Lupo at the motor show when the Clio was launched, though it always sounded like a convenient story made-up after the event to me.
Its cobblers. RenaultSport stated early on they were working on a V6 car.
although technicaly renault itself had a relitively small role in the design and enginering of the V6 that was done mainly by TWR

TallPaul

1,517 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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cupraglasgow said:
I was told that the 205 gti 1.9 came with a government health warning due to its great speed or something? True or False
Thats obviously true, I'm suprised you even needed to ask!