RE: PH Heroes: Porsche 968 Club Sport

RE: PH Heroes: Porsche 968 Club Sport

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flattotheboards

6,681 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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If Porsche were to make a Cayman CS I think that they would charge more for it as they have demand for there cars at the moment, however when the 968 CS was brought out there wasnt as much demand.

gmackay2

160 posts

195 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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i really want one of these! I always liked the 944 and this i thought was even better! If my new career change comes to fruition then a new purchase maybe had later in the year??? it's one of these or an e39 m5???? woohoo

belleair302

6,843 posts

207 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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A friends Father purchased one of these from Hxagon in North London, light blue with no decals. The car was a disaster, lived in dealerships, all of the problems were electrical and compared to his 911's the 968 was a dog.

People today eulogize about cars from their past....often to be upset when they drive one and find out how terrible they are.

Buy a 911 (964 RS) and see how Porsche can make good drivers cars and not half way marketing lead cars.

Crimp a Length!

5,697 posts

223 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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belleair302 said:
A friends Father purchased one of these from Hxagon in North London, light blue with no decals. The car was a disaster, lived in dealerships, all of the problems were electrical and compared to his 911's the 968 was a dog.

People today eulogize about cars from their past....often to be upset when they drive one and find out how terrible they are.

Buy a 911 (964 RS) and see how Porsche can make good drivers cars and not half way marketing lead cars.
Buy a 964RS???
Fetching daft money fella, IMO well over priced.
Nothing wrong with the 968CS great car for the money and perfect for the odd track day.

willdew

2,138 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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belleair302 said:
People today eulogize about cars from their past....often to be upset when they drive one and find out how terrible they are.
What a load of crap.

A well set-up 968, on decent suspension (bearing in mind the original stuff is now 15 years old), with refreshed bushes it genuinely excellent. Ask any of the 964 RS and GT3 owners who were at Donington on Sunday how some of the 968s were going, including a guy called Chris, who's a current 964 RS owner who's just bought himself a 968 for the track.

Edited by willdew on Wednesday 11th June 20:52

Crimp a Length!

5,697 posts

223 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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willdew said:
belleair302 said:
People today eulogize about cars from their past....often to be upset when they drive one and find out how terrible they are.
What a load of crap.

A well set-up 968, on decent suspension (bearing in mind the original stuff is now 15 years old), with refreshed bushes it genuinely excellent. Ask any of the 964 RS and GT3 owners who were at Donington on Sunday how some of the 968s were going, including a guy called Chris, who's a current 964 RS owner who's just bought himself a 968 for the track.

Edited by willdew on Wednesday 11th June 20:52
Thinking about one for meself actually, nice Blue or Yellow in LHD just for track use.;)

Miguel

1,030 posts

265 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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joz8968 said:
Anyone remember Performance Car's bright orange 968CS project? driving (Ultimately, given away to one lucky reader in an end-of-project competition).
I believe I do remember something like that, but I could've sworn it was either a basic 944 or a 924S. I remember it being orange. I also recall them installating a Safety Devices roll cage.

Miguel

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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belleair302 said:
A friends Father purchased one of these from Hxagon in North London, light blue with no decals. The car was a disaster, lived in dealerships, all of the problems were electrical and compared to his 911's the 968 was a dog.

People today eulogize about cars from their past....often to be upset when they drive one and find out how terrible they are.

Buy a 911 (964 RS) and see how Porsche can make good drivers cars and not half way marketing lead cars.
I had a nicely set up 968CS. I seriously considered changing for a 964RS and tried two. After the first one I thought I must be losing my marbles, it felt ancient compared to the effortless balance of the 968 (nice engine noise though), but the second just confirmed it; the 968CS was so much better to drive on the road I couldn't justify spending double on a 964RS.

SS7

james S

1,615 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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The 968CS is odd. I've had both and on paper at least the 968 ought to be very like a similarly set up 944, but its not. I have had both with essentially the same suspension set up new in both cases and the 968 CS just feels more stable and confidnce inspiring on the track.


ph123

1,841 posts

218 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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cuneus said:
I will never understand this car

It's little more than a marketing gimmick and too soft / roly poly to be any real use on a track
This is real mis-information, and I dislike the display of ignorance.
As an enthusiastic driver-orientated Coupe, particularly for the age and value they are now, the 968 Clubsport is unbeatable. Handling is peerless without being over-endowed with power, but sufficient however to spell your name in opposit lock; and it was made at a time when German 'over-engineering' meant you bought a tough car. So it gets the job done beautifully, though a 'finer' drive maybe found at Lotus.
And if you want a quicker car, then buy an RS. And then a GT3, then ... a GT1. Just a matter of cutting your cloth, but Porsche normally have something to suit.
Anytime Porsche said they were making a lighter version (Clubsport/RS/GT etc), with slightly more power and sports kit etc, you got a properly engineered real sports car fit for purpose, make no mistake, enthusiasts need to listen.
968 CS for the money is completely satisfying.

ph123

1,841 posts

218 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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As an afterthought, I'd like to add that allowing the car has no rear seats and no access behind the front sports seats, the whole car is an amazingly practical car to live with day to day.

cuneus

5,963 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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ph123 said:
cuneus said:
I will never understand this car

It's little more than a marketing gimmick and too soft / roly poly to be any real use on a track
This is real mis-information, and I dislike the display of ignorance.
As an enthusiastic driver-orientated Coupe, particularly for the age and value they are now, the 968 Clubsport is unbeatable. Handling is peerless without being over-endowed with power, but sufficient however to spell your name in opposit lock; and it was made at a time when German 'over-engineering' meant you bought a tough car. So it gets the job done beautifully, though a 'finer' drive maybe found at Lotus.
And if you want a quicker car, then buy an RS. And then a GT3, then ... a GT1. Just a matter of cutting your cloth, but Porsche normally have something to suit.
Anytime Porsche said they were making a lighter version (Clubsport/RS/GT etc), with slightly more power and sports kit etc, you got a properly engineered real sports car fit for purpose, make no mistake, enthusiasts need to listen.
968 CS for the money is completely satisfying.
Did you actually read what I have written ?

I stand by my comments 100% which are derived from experience

Tankman

176 posts

229 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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cuneus said:
I will never understand this car

It's little more than a marketing gimmick and too soft / roly poly to be any real use on a track
cuneus said:
Did you actually read what I have written ?

I stand by my comments 100% which are derived from experience
As a regular poster on this forum Cuneus, I will presume you are well experienced in track driving. So, can I ask what cars you have driven to make a comparison against the CS?


Edited by Tankman on Thursday 12th June 11:35

cuneus

5,963 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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Tankman said:
As a regular poster on this forum Cuneus, I will presume you are well experienced in track driving. So, can I ask what cars you have driven to make a comparison against the CS?
www.pistonheads.com/members/showcar.asp?carId=14886

www.944turbo.org.uk

TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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i,ve been watching these for a while ,they look good value and you get a nice car as well ,had a go in one and while it felt good it was a bit flat could do with a bit more power imo .

just trying to work out if i can get back seats in a CS !!!

Sheep Shagger

3 posts

190 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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I'm all for the 968, had my sport for 2 years and has been fast, fun and reliable. Its because its a rare sight on the road that makes it special.

willdew

2,138 posts

264 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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TuxMan said:
i,ve been watching these for a while ,they look good value and you get a nice car as well ,had a go in one and while it felt good it was a bit flat could do with a bit more power imo .

just trying to work out if i can get back seats in a CS !!!
You can, but if the CS has the hard back bucket seats you can't get into the rear seats.

If you need of a 2+2, get a Sport. It's a CS with a few extras added back in, including rear seats. Mine started life as a Sport, and weighs in at 1327kgs, so there's very little extra weight in reality.

Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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If you want a good track car, get a normal 968, strip it out and fit buckets, and refresh brakes, suspension and fit an LSD. Will be cheaper than buying the collectible CS and knackering it on track; and you would probably have to refresh all those bits on the more expensive CS anyway.

My 968 cab still gets outings - even though it's wobbly next to a coupe and far slower than the Morgan, the balance and steering feel of the thing are utterly addictive. It carries such speed in corners with such composure.

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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clonmult said:
cvegas said:
Where is the Cayman CS? This car is crying out for a more focused lighter weight LSD equipped version.

Edited by cvegas on Wednesday 11th June 12:57
But in the current scheme of things, you'd be paying considerably more for less though ....
Exactly! - Look at the GT3 RS - I think its because they up rate the engine components etc - The CS had a standard engine but made up for it in the chassis and weight improvements

kieronj

2,194 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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After a blast along the M27 in a friends 968 I vowed to get myself a 968 CS. The base 968 didn't inspire that much confidence but the CS did. Wasn't a fan of the sound of the car on tick over though - sounded like a Royal Mail van!

Regrettably I got scared away by an over cautious specialist warning me about the high number of fried ECUs on 968s.

Bought a Corrado VR6, which I loved, but regret not having owned a 968 CS.