RE: New '914' Mooted In VW-Porsche Plans

RE: New '914' Mooted In VW-Porsche Plans

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R4PID

1,060 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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McReis said:
Porsche will be destrying the image they've been building up lately. Panamera and now this... it's sick.
Agreed, they'll be making tractors next!

XJSJohn

15,963 posts

219 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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ahh i dunno ....

whats wrong with a track focused minimalist elise challenger from porsche ...

Porsche is a "growing up" experiance so why not have something at the cheap but hard end of the market ??

A lot of elise / caterham owners seem to evolve into porker teritory as they get older / more afluent, so why not catch them in the brand earlier!!!

If it works, goes and handles like the current range then good luck to them!!


Spurtboy

15 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Bound to be a) ugly, b) slow and c) ludicrously overpriced. Think £30k MGTF.

Buyers will hoover them up though.

general190

252 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Like everyone else is saying, if they did make a light, mid-engined, cheap porsche my name would be on the order list! providing it looks good and goes well.

Ed.

2,173 posts

238 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Garlick said:
lightweight said:
make it cheep.
Sorry lightweight, but my sandwich is now all over my screen as I imagined it making bird noises smile
I am hoping it will be light and aerodynamic, like a bird smile

hugoagogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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you can guarantee two things, it won't be light and it won't be cheap

it might be a four-pot though

alsem

580 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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general190 said:
Like everyone else is saying, if they did make a light, mid-engined, cheap porsche my name would be on the order list! providing it looks good and goes well.
indeed, cheap porsches has always been a succes, like the 944 and 928 :P

BigBen

11,626 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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alsem said:
general190 said:
Like everyone else is saying, if they did make a light, mid-engined, cheap porsche my name would be on the order list! providing it looks good and goes well.
indeed, cheap porsches has always been a succes, like the 944 and 928 :P
You are right those 928s were a bargain sitting at the top of the Porsche range as they did (911 turbo excluded)

tomTVR

6,909 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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If they want to seperate it from the boxter but dont want to go the boring VAG turbo route then how about using a version of the VR5 engine with some Porsche tuning on it, 200bhp and a bit of character.

I dont have a problem with parts sharing on the cheaper models, after all its in the history.

Niffty951

2,333 posts

228 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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On the contrary to all negative comments! The styling of the VW is the best looking VW concept possibly ever and a Porsche version which can only be better tweaked and engineered but will probably have a puny engine and soon get a terrible reputation would make the ultimate Q-car with a 997 Gt3 engine or silimar dropped into it.

I eagerly await the RUF engine options on this car.. could be the modern equivilent to the 944 turbo which everyone seems to think has a VW van engine until its heading over the horizon leaving them in a cloud of grit and tyresmoke!

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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How much slower can a Boxster get before it's slower than a GTi?

Porsche Boxster 2.7
245 bhp
0-62 mph 6.1 sec

Golf GTi
197 bhp
0-60mph 6.7 sec

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
How much slower can a Boxster get before it's slower than a GTi?

Porsche Boxster 2.7
245 bhp
0-62 mph 6.1 sec

Golf GTi
197 bhp
0-60mph 6.7 sec
You could at least quote like for like performance figures....

IIRC Golf ~140mph Boxster ~160mph.

SS7
PS Boxster 0-60 ~5.7secs, and its about to get a 2.9l engine upgrade

Edited by shoestring7 on Thursday 11th September 18:24

turboman808

70 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Well I for one hope they make it and keep some original styling cues. 2000 lbs 300 hp and I will lay down the cash right now.

Having my 914 rebuilt right now. smile



What it looked like last year



So yeah I am excited about the idea of having a new 914.


Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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turboman808 said:
Well I for one hope they make it and keep some original styling cues. 2000 lbs 300 hp and I will lay down the cash right now.
And you'd like it to be safe and meet current emissions targets?

Lutz

236 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Hi time they go again for something light and fun, instead of their current oh-so-perfect line-up of boring cars on one hand and deep pocket racing cars.
914 was actually a very competent car and was only killed off by the snobbery of people who think a Porsche muts look like a 911. Same for the 928...good car...

Ah, please Porsche: do it, a nice small light Elise and MK5 beater ... anyone is free to have then a GT3 engine dropped in if they need to have it...

turboman808

70 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Fittster said:
turboman808 said:
Well I for one hope they make it and keep some original styling cues. 2000 lbs 300 hp and I will lay down the cash right now.
And you'd like it to be safe and meet current emissions targets?
Safer then a roll cage 5 point harness and fire suppression system?

I could care less about emissions.

waynepixel

3,972 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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McReis said:
Porsche will be destrying the image they've been building up lately. Panamera and now this... it's sick.
I see so many Porsche on the road that it really is getting common. Yes, great car but what are they doing to the band.

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Lutz said:
914 was actually a very competent car and was only killed off by the snobbery of people who think a Porsche muts look like a 911.
No, the 914 was killed off because it was too expensive (a 914/6 was more expensive than a 911T).

This was because the original deal with VW to build the bodies was based on a handshake. A subsequent change of senior management at VW bought in a CEO who significantly upped the price Porsche were paying for bodies.

SS7

Riggernut

1,681 posts

231 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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mulletmark said:
Wasn't it the 914 which nearly sank Porsche in the first place?
914/924/928/944/boxster *delete as applicable rolleyes

Riggernut

1,681 posts

231 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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shoestring7 said:
Lutz said:
914 was actually a very competent car and was only killed off by the snobbery of people who think a Porsche muts look like a 911.
No, the 914 was killed off because it was too expensive (a 914/6 was more expensive than a 911T).

This was because the original deal with VW to build the bodies was based on a handshake. A subsequent change of senior management at VW bought in a CEO who significantly upped the price Porsche were paying for bodies.

SS7
You failed to quote the rest of wikipedia, which also states the 914-4 became Porsches top seller in the model run outselling the 911. So maybe there would be a market?