RE: PH Heroes: Audi RS2
Discussion
urquattro said:
I also understood the parts for RS2 were sourced from 968 Club Sport, hence cheaper replacement disks against Audi prices, dont fancy replacing the wheels though and glad to have the same as spare. Replacement mirrors cost an arm and leg so always leave space!!!
[Dons Anorak]I'm sure Porsche used common parts on a number of their models - the mirrors, front lights and wheels certainly all appeared on the 993 (as did the fuel pump apparently) and the uprated front brakes on the tested car are from a 993 Turbo.In fact the wheels are slightly different from the Porsche fitment, having a different internal diameter to the hole in the middle.
Now, where's that coat ....
Edited by jeremyc on Friday 24th October 17:28
Thanks to the current money troubles, a nice one went recently for £6,000. The poor guy had it advertised for weeks at the "right price" - £11,000 if I remember correctly - then dropped it painfully bit by bit to £9,000, then thought bolleaux and stuck it in for £6,000 no offers.
So buying an RS2 may be easier at the moment but, as usual, it's running it that hurts. Mine was nice when I bought it fifteen months ago and is a wee bit better now. In that time it has had ten trips to various fettlers to keep it nice and running well. That includes two annual services and MoTs and five new tyres. It has also had three improvement trips; one to the paintshop for stone chips and a polish, one to have the wheels refurbished and one to the upholsterers for the front seat centres and door cards. Total cost for fifteen months, a bit over £7,000. That averages out at more than £100 a week before petrol and insurance.
Did I mention petrol and insurance? Mine does 21 mpg and with middle age, a clean licence, maximum NCB and a huge excess costs £600 a year to insure. (The full premium would be around £2,000, I think.) All in, that's £200 a week to run it as my every day car.
Why? Because it's a blast. I've owned all sorts of cars over the years and driven loads more. The RS2 is the quickest off the mark of any of them and the way it gathers pace in the mid range has to be experienced to be believed. Keep the revs up and the turbo spinning and it's just blistering. It goes, it stops and it's agile. It's a hoot. It will see off nearly everything. Anything that does get away from it has to work very hard. So there will be guys with Porches and Astons reading this saying the money RS2 owners spend is nothing for that sort of performance.
Added to which, in an RS2, you don't have to. In its I'm-just-an-old-estate-car mood, it is happier to troll around town with its hands in its pockets than any high performance car I've ever experienced.
I am so glad I bought it.
Since I've had it I've added 12,000 miles (to take it to 140,000 miles total) and, other than breaking down once, it starts first time, is surprisingly luxurious, my wife quite likes it, it's easy to drive and it can take heaps of stuff to the tip. What more do you want from a car? Oh, yeah, if you want to be noticed, buy something else.
So buying an RS2 may be easier at the moment but, as usual, it's running it that hurts. Mine was nice when I bought it fifteen months ago and is a wee bit better now. In that time it has had ten trips to various fettlers to keep it nice and running well. That includes two annual services and MoTs and five new tyres. It has also had three improvement trips; one to the paintshop for stone chips and a polish, one to have the wheels refurbished and one to the upholsterers for the front seat centres and door cards. Total cost for fifteen months, a bit over £7,000. That averages out at more than £100 a week before petrol and insurance.
Did I mention petrol and insurance? Mine does 21 mpg and with middle age, a clean licence, maximum NCB and a huge excess costs £600 a year to insure. (The full premium would be around £2,000, I think.) All in, that's £200 a week to run it as my every day car.
Why? Because it's a blast. I've owned all sorts of cars over the years and driven loads more. The RS2 is the quickest off the mark of any of them and the way it gathers pace in the mid range has to be experienced to be believed. Keep the revs up and the turbo spinning and it's just blistering. It goes, it stops and it's agile. It's a hoot. It will see off nearly everything. Anything that does get away from it has to work very hard. So there will be guys with Porches and Astons reading this saying the money RS2 owners spend is nothing for that sort of performance.
Added to which, in an RS2, you don't have to. In its I'm-just-an-old-estate-car mood, it is happier to troll around town with its hands in its pockets than any high performance car I've ever experienced.
I am so glad I bought it.
Since I've had it I've added 12,000 miles (to take it to 140,000 miles total) and, other than breaking down once, it starts first time, is surprisingly luxurious, my wife quite likes it, it's easy to drive and it can take heaps of stuff to the tip. What more do you want from a car? Oh, yeah, if you want to be noticed, buy something else.
Edited by DickyC on Friday 24th October 18:24
I was an Audi salesman when the RS2 came out. I remember the first demo model we had in, the late afternoon that it arrived.
I remember the Sales Manager jumping in, full of excitement. We mere salesmen piled in, one in the front, 3 in the back, eager to see what the pre-launch fuss was really about.
My seat was in the back, smack bang in the middle. I generally liked to see what was going on when I wasn't the one with my hands on the steering wheel.
My introduction to the RS2 was a 5 minute spin through a bumpy b-road seen from the perfect passenger view.
As we headed back to the dealership, the boss caned it towards a tight right hander with a big fat mother of an oak on the outside edge. As we approached at hideous speed, I got that terrible feeling that you get when the driver is unfamiliar with a car and you run out of confidence on his behalf. The oak started to beckon and I mentally cursed the boss for not dropping a cog. Convinced of the imminent bark meets head moment, the boost stepped in just as the throttle was floored and the acorns in the gutter were sent flying as the 4 wheels found the grip and launched us east of the trunk. It was a real fk me, that was close moment. One of a handful you have in your car memory bank.
Most other cars would have killed me in that moment but the RS2 was up to it. Thank Christ it was as good as they said it was.
I remember the Sales Manager jumping in, full of excitement. We mere salesmen piled in, one in the front, 3 in the back, eager to see what the pre-launch fuss was really about.
My seat was in the back, smack bang in the middle. I generally liked to see what was going on when I wasn't the one with my hands on the steering wheel.
My introduction to the RS2 was a 5 minute spin through a bumpy b-road seen from the perfect passenger view.
As we headed back to the dealership, the boss caned it towards a tight right hander with a big fat mother of an oak on the outside edge. As we approached at hideous speed, I got that terrible feeling that you get when the driver is unfamiliar with a car and you run out of confidence on his behalf. The oak started to beckon and I mentally cursed the boss for not dropping a cog. Convinced of the imminent bark meets head moment, the boost stepped in just as the throttle was floored and the acorns in the gutter were sent flying as the 4 wheels found the grip and launched us east of the trunk. It was a real fk me, that was close moment. One of a handful you have in your car memory bank.
Most other cars would have killed me in that moment but the RS2 was up to it. Thank Christ it was as good as they said it was.
Plotloss said:
DickyC said:
The guy who has just bought M120MJB is over the moon with it.
Glad to hear its still going strong.The fact that it has the old skool power delivery - nothing, nothing, nothing..... whooooaaaaa, makes it easy to pootle around town (especially by my wife as I'm sure her car has never seen 3.5k on the rev counter except when I give it a run to blow the cobwebs out!!), but when it hits that magic number, my face isn't big enough to accomodate the grin that the car produces.
Edited by teknobod on Sunday 26th October 09:28
I remember M120 well, I worked on the launch of the car and drove that for a fair few miles when it first came into the country.
Do you know if its brothers are still in service?
M118 and M119? They're both silver IIRC
There were 6 RS2s on press and events fleets in total.
1 RS Blue, 1 Black, 1 Red, 3 Silver.
I think, there may have been a different split of RS Blue and Silver ones.
Do you know if its brothers are still in service?
M118 and M119? They're both silver IIRC
There were 6 RS2s on press and events fleets in total.
1 RS Blue, 1 Black, 1 Red, 3 Silver.
I think, there may have been a different split of RS Blue and Silver ones.
J400uk said:
Whiters said:
littlemidgetgem said:
Love it
Did Audi not do an RS2 Coupe though? Don't really know much about them
They did an S2 Coupe that was no slouch, but there was no Porsche partnership or bits for it. Looked decent enough but I'd much rather have the RS2.Did Audi not do an RS2 Coupe though? Don't really know much about them
They did indeed make an RS2 coupe, but it never made it to the UK as far as I know.
They didn't make an RS2 coupe but they did make a quite a few S2 Sedans and one or two RS2 Sedans.
lazyitus said:
I was an Audi salesman when the RS2 came out. I remember the first demo model we had in, the late afternoon that it arrived.
I remember the Sales Manager jumping in, full of excitement. We mere salesmen piled in, one in the front, 3 in the back, eager to see what the pre-launch fuss was really about.
My seat was in the back, smack bang in the middle. I generally liked to see what was going on when I wasn't the one with my hands on the steering wheel.
My introduction to the RS2 was a 5 minute spin through a bumpy b-road seen from the perfect passenger view.
As we headed back to the dealership, the boss caned it towards a tight right hander with a big fat mother of an oak on the outside edge. As we approached at hideous speed, I got that terrible feeling that you get when the driver is unfamiliar with a car and you run out of confidence on his behalf. The oak started to beckon and I mentally cursed the boss for not dropping a cog. Convinced of the imminent bark meets head moment, the boost stepped in just as the throttle was floored and the acorns in the gutter were sent flying as the 4 wheels found the grip and launched us east of the trunk. It was a real fk me, that was close moment. One of a handful you have in your car memory bank.
Most other cars would have killed me in that moment but the RS2 was up to it. Thank Christ it was as good as they said it was.
I remember the Sales Manager jumping in, full of excitement. We mere salesmen piled in, one in the front, 3 in the back, eager to see what the pre-launch fuss was really about.
My seat was in the back, smack bang in the middle. I generally liked to see what was going on when I wasn't the one with my hands on the steering wheel.
My introduction to the RS2 was a 5 minute spin through a bumpy b-road seen from the perfect passenger view.
As we headed back to the dealership, the boss caned it towards a tight right hander with a big fat mother of an oak on the outside edge. As we approached at hideous speed, I got that terrible feeling that you get when the driver is unfamiliar with a car and you run out of confidence on his behalf. The oak started to beckon and I mentally cursed the boss for not dropping a cog. Convinced of the imminent bark meets head moment, the boost stepped in just as the throttle was floored and the acorns in the gutter were sent flying as the 4 wheels found the grip and launched us east of the trunk. It was a real fk me, that was close moment. One of a handful you have in your car memory bank.
Most other cars would have killed me in that moment but the RS2 was up to it. Thank Christ it was as good as they said it was.
plotloss said:
I remember M120 well, I worked on the launch of the car and drove that for a fair few miles when it first came into the country.
Do you know if its brothers are still in service?
M118 and M119? They're both silver IIRC
There were 6 RS2s on press and events fleets in total.
1 RS Blue, 1 Black, 1 Red, 3 Silver.
I think, there may have been a different split of RS Blue and Silver ones.
It's great to hear these stories as I remember the magic when the RS2 came out, and the excitement it created. There had been nothing like it - for Audi itself, and in the car world generally.Do you know if its brothers are still in service?
M118 and M119? They're both silver IIRC
There were 6 RS2s on press and events fleets in total.
1 RS Blue, 1 Black, 1 Red, 3 Silver.
I think, there may have been a different split of RS Blue and Silver ones.
The fact it was built by Porsche and has Porsche bits on it only serve to enhance the legend.
Robatr0n said:
J400uk said:
Whiters said:
littlemidgetgem said:
Love it
Did Audi not do an RS2 Coupe though? Don't really know much about them
They did an S2 Coupe that was no slouch, but there was no Porsche partnership or bits for it. Looked decent enough but I'd much rather have the RS2.Did Audi not do an RS2 Coupe though? Don't really know much about them
They did indeed make an RS2 coupe, but it never made it to the UK as far as I know.
They didn't make an RS2 coupe but they did make a quite a few S2 Sedans and one or two RS2 Sedans.
Edited by J400uk on Sunday 26th October 11:24
Robatr0n said:
They didn't make an RS2 coupe but they did make a quite a few S2 Sedans and one or two RS2 Sedans.
There is only one RS2 saloon, it was the factory development mule and was a runaround for one of the senior directors at Ingolstadt.S2 Saloon wasnt a production model in RHD, in the UK S2 was only ever available in Coupe and Avant body styles.
morgrp said:
I absoultely love this car - its everything I look for in a motor - made the V6 RS4 successor look pretty dull in comparison. I'd love one but they are oh so pricey!! - but I want one so bad - I'd even put up with the awful 80's (no pun intended) style rear light cluster!!!
Ah, the rear light cluster is part of the legend though.It looks like that as it follows the rear light treatment of the contemporary Porsches.
Plotloss said:
I remember M120 well, I worked on the launch of the car and drove that for a fair few miles when it first came into the country.
Do you know if its brothers are still in service?
M118 and M119? They're both silver IIRC
There were 6 RS2s on press and events fleets in total.
1 RS Blue, 1 Black, 1 Red, 3 Silver.
I think, there may have been a different split of RS Blue and Silver ones.
M119 is identical to mine (RS blue) and is still around and well looked after, I'm unsure about M118 though.Do you know if its brothers are still in service?
M118 and M119? They're both silver IIRC
There were 6 RS2s on press and events fleets in total.
1 RS Blue, 1 Black, 1 Red, 3 Silver.
I think, there may have been a different split of RS Blue and Silver ones.
Plotloss said:
Robatr0n said:
They didn't make an RS2 coupe but they did make a quite a few S2 Sedans and one or two RS2 Sedans.
There is only one RS2 saloon, it was the factory development mule and was a runaround for one of the senior directors at Ingolstadt.S2 Saloon wasnt a production model in RHD, in the UK S2 was only ever available in Coupe and Avant body styles.
J400uk said:
Oh right I see, my mistake I must have got the two mixed up. Nice Car BTW
Thank you kindly. I'd be lying if I said that I didn't enjoy it! If you see me about make yourself known.
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