Acceptable paint finish on New Cars

Acceptable paint finish on New Cars

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rev-erend

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21,180 posts

262 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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With the advent of environmentally friendly water based paint for the car trade - I've noticed that so many new cars seem to have a rather poor finish - a look we all know as orange peel.

I was in a showroom on Sunday looking at the paint on a new car and it was just terrible .. reminded me of all the satsumas I ate at Christmas.. so much orange peel.

So - if you buy a new car, do you have any rights to not accept the new car on delivery if the paint finish is bad ?

Or is that just being unreasonable ?

ilikecars

2,597 posts

159 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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If it is a bad finish then there is no point in accepting it unless they give you a big good will gesture of money off the value.

As when you come round to sell the car on, the next person who looks as closly as you will think the paintwork is bad too and you will lose a sale over it possibly.

wildcat45

7,729 posts

167 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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I was thinking just the smae thing at the weekend. One of my cars - y reg MG - has really nice quality paint. Bit tired here and there but you can see it was put on well - even for a car from Longbridge.

The other car - built last year - looks like it was painted with poster paint. Soft, full of chips and very orange peely down the bottom of the doors.

rev-erend

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21,180 posts

262 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Thats kind of what I thought ..

Glad I'm not the only one..

A mate in the paint trade loves it .. being water based there is never a reaction with other paints and it does not cause him breathing problems that older paints do .. I can understand that one.

Broccers

3,232 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Get an annally obsessive detailer type to create a report on the car.

Targarama

14,504 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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BMW seems the worst for this, stands out on black BMWs which seem to be a favourite colour/style at the moment.

There are professional detailers who will cut and polish your paintwork to be smooth and silky like we all really want. They have been mentioned on here a few times.

PeteG

4,192 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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wildcat45 said:
Soft, full of chips and very orange peely down the bottom of the doors.
I could be wrong, but I think that's something to do with the newer water-based paints not working well with the thicker undercoat on the lower panels... both mum's old 307 and Mazda 3 have this effect below the bump strips.

rev-erend

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21,180 posts

262 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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PeteG said:
wildcat45 said:
Soft, full of chips and very orange peely down the bottom of the doors.
I could be wrong, but I think that's something to do with the newer water-based paints not working well with the thicker undercoat on the lower panels... both mum's old 307 and Mazda 3 have this effect below the bump strips.
I would have no issue with that .. after all good rust proofing is in our interests.. but the bad paint I've seen is on upper panels like the top of the rear quarter panels.

Rags

3,598 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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The problem is that 99% of the population either do not know what orange peel is or are not particularly fussed by it.

Some of the finishes on the new e92 m3 is pathetic especially the interlagos blue or jerez black.

if I had paid £50k plus for one these new, I would be struggle to accept it.

PeteG

4,192 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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rev-erend said:
PeteG said:
wildcat45 said:
Soft, full of chips and very orange peely down the bottom of the doors.
I could be wrong, but I think that's something to do with the newer water-based paints not working well with the thicker undercoat on the lower panels... both mum's old 307 and Mazda 3 have this effect below the bump strips.
I would have no issue with that .. after all good rust proofing is in our interests.. but the bad paint I've seen is on upper panels like the top of the rear quarter panels.
Aye, I know exactly what you mean. To be fair, I'm not that keen on it on the lower panels, if it wasn't for the muck and odd rust bubble, you could get a flawless finish on even my '02 Omega - can't be coincidence that it was made before water-based paint was the law (I think), surely?

blackcab

1,259 posts

178 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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saw a post on here not so long back by a detailer who went to do paint correction on a newish ferrari and couldnt because the paint was so thin