RE: Driven: SEAT Ibiza Cupra 1.4 TSI 180

[collateral]

rsstman said:

DirtyHarry88 said:

The new Ibizas are good looking cars.

i will take that as sarcasm, they really are very ugly things.

Doesn't do anything for me. Think the mk1 Leon was a real looker though, especially on the 18s

[Polarbert]

Whats the point of the gearbox in a small hot hatch? Must put a few bob on the price of the car as well.

Edited by Polarbert on Wednesday 29th July 05:33

[mainaman]

Maybe the styling will date quickly,but the new Ibiza looks way better than the cosmetically upgraded Clio.

For better or worse these performance versions just embrace the hot hatch design of the future-small and economical,but powerful blown engine,multispeed DSG,electronic diff...

Edited by mainaman on Wednesday 29th July 05:41

[mattmb]

Seat have bought out another great I really like it. I was going to go for a DSG box in my leon but after reading about them decided to go for a 6 speed manual Think I made the right choice

[drewcole81]

lionrampant said:

Am I the only one that sees echoes of the Kia Pro_ceed? I'm not saying the Ibiza is an ugly car by any means, but I just keep thinking "hang on I've seen that before..." when I catch it from the right angle.

Just what I was thinking.... bet the Ibiza doesn't have a 7 year plan though.

[bales]

rsstman said:

DirtyHarry88 said:

The new Ibizas are good looking cars.

i will take that as sarcasm, they really are very ugly things.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise that people weren't entitled to opinions anymore, you say it is ugly so you must be right

In the flesh they are actually pretty smart looking and the interior isn't as bad as it looks.

Its one of those cars that isn't particularly photogenic but close up the design works a lot better.

Oh and also if you notice over 2 generations it has only increased in weight by 50kg which is damn good nowadays, I can't believe this class of car has got over 1200kg in some cases!! My EP3 is 1204kg and I think that is heavy!

Edited by bales on Wednesday 29th July 09:01

[Steve_bullockuk]

I had a mk2 Ibiza GTi 16v and i cannot believe how the ibiza has got more vulgar over the years!! Retro for the win.

[lordgibbness]

Since the Mk1 Leon Cupra R, which was universally praised, I don't think SEAT have made another car worth buying...

[adycav]

lordgibbness said:

Since the Mk1 Leon Cupra R, which was universally praised, I don't think SEAT have made another car worth buying...

Unfortunately I think that this is true.

I had an LCR and I really wanted to follow it up with a new Leon Cupra but I didn't like it much, so I bought a Focus ST instead.

[n4aat]

Ummm.

Surely the whole point of this product is to achieve a hot hatch type car with low CO2.

So maybe a mention of the level of CO2 would be a beneficial addition to the article.

[Yorkshirepud]

adycav said:

lordgibbness said:

Since the Mk1 Leon Cupra R, which was universally praised, I don't think SEAT have made another car worth buying...

Unfortunately I think that this is true.

I had an LCR and I really wanted to follow it up with a new Leon Cupra but I didn't like it much, so I bought a Focus ST instead.

Yeah, I have a Cupra myself (not the R though - brother-in-law has that) and we both feel let down by the new SEAT range, just hope the rumoured Mk2 Cupra R or the Mk3 in a few years redeem them, otherwise what else are we going to move on to..?

[Zippee]

rsstman said:

DirtyHarry88 said:

The new Ibizas are good looking cars.

i will take that as sarcasm, they really are very ugly things.

Why? In the flesh I think they actually look quite nice!
Same goes for the new Leon - one of the reasons we have an FR.

[snorkel sucker]

I have to say that it is one nice looking car! (not being sarcastic either!)

shame the driving experience doesnt match the looks (and that the auto box cant take anymore torque....yeah right - nice ploy seat but i dont think you would engineer a car with no tolerance in its components!)

[mattikake]

1.4 and DSG. 17yo tuning options are limited... or very expensive!

So you buy it because it is good vfm?
Next to the Clio?

So you buy it because it looks good?
You can be blind and have a license?


So you buy is because it handles well?
Next to a Clio?

So you buy it for a drivers car?
With DSG and FWD?

I can't think why you'd buy this other than to display automotive ignorance.

VAG creating another niche market for a niche car. They really haven't quite worked out this hot hatch market yet have they? Which is amazing considering they created it all those years ago!

[bales]

mattikake said:

1.4 and DSG. 17yo tuning options are limited... or very expensive!

So you buy it because it is good vfm?
Next to the Clio?

So you buy it because it looks good?
You can be blind and have a license?


So you buy is because it handles well?
Next to a Clio?

So you buy it for a drivers car?
With DSG and FWD?

I can't think why you'd buy this other than to display automotive ignorance.

VAG creating another niche market for a niche car. They really haven't quite worked out this hot hatch market yet have they? Which is amazing considering they created it all those years ago!

You owned a modern Renault recently?

After about 5k miles they feel tired and the interior is ste.

[pbirkett]

Still looks hideous even in Cupra guise. I have to say these new Ibiza's are possibly one of the ugliest cars on the market now, along with the new Ford Gay-Ay (ka).

[Hub]

I think the point is that the gearbox doesn't make the best of the engine which probably has a lot of low down torque - but to kick down into the high rev zone with a lot of noise isn't the best way of making progress in that car!

[c0ldpl4ya]

Ibiza cupras have always been a favourite of mine. However this cupra just doesnt seem that differant looking than the normal ibiza, the bocanegra will probably change that. And the alloys just dont suit the look of the car at all, if i were to buy one i would definately opt for another option wheel. Other than that fantastic car and by far i feel the best hot supermini

[NWMark]

carl_w said:

Turbo pressure of over 2 bar, i.e. >30 psi? Seems like a lot for a petrol engine.

Im guessing they have included atmospheric pressure in there too, so about 1.1 bar sounds more like it.

[rsstman]

bales said:

rsstman said:

DirtyHarry88 said:

The new Ibizas are good looking cars.

i will take that as sarcasm, they really are very ugly things.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise that people weren't entitled to opinions anymore, you say it is ugly so you must be right

In the flesh they are actually pretty smart looking and the interior isn't as bad as it looks.

Its one of those cars that isn't particularly photogenic but close up the design works a lot better.

Oh and also if you notice over 2 generations it has only increased in weight by 50kg which is damn good nowadays, I can't believe this class of car has got over 1200kg in some cases!! My EP3 is 1204kg and I think that is heavy!

Edited by bales on Wednesday 29th July 09:01

sorry, where did i say nobody was allowed to have an opinion anymore?
i was just assuming it was sarcasm as it is such a god awfully ugly car.

and as for it looking better in the flesh.... i saw one at the motorshow last year and it was the most ugly thing there.

calm down and chill out.