RE: Two CLK GTRs Fall Under The Hammer
Discussion
S3_Graham said:
iluvmercs said:
flemke said:
It wasn't 13, and this was prior to '05.
Why is the CLK-GTR a truly horrible road car?
For starters, as you can see in the Needell video, just getting in is a major production. It makes getting into an F1 seem as easy as falling off a log.
Straight-cut gears: they do not belong in a road car. Ever. The noise is inherently unpleasant, very hard on the ear, and it overwhelms the experience.
The space inside is tiny. There isn't even a real passenger footwell; it's more a slot into which it's posible to jam two small feet.
Once you're on the move, the gear selector is fine, but getting the bloody thing into first, even when it's warmed up, can sometimes take 5-6 attempts. So you're sitting there at a red light, or a give-way, and you want to set off, but you can't, because you're farting around with the stupid paddles. As with the noise of the gearbox, this is not a problem during a race, but you're not racing.
Sure, the engine's got loads of power, and the vehicle has tremedous brip, as you would imagine. There is the small detail that, on public roads, you cannot come close ever to needing that power or that grip, but, but...
It's really no different from the flip side of a car that had been designed exclusively for the public roads - say a big, fat Audi - but which you've taken out of its habitat and onto a racing circuit. Sure, it is physically possible to operate the vehicle on the circuit, but in relation to proper racing cars it will be unavoidably awful.
Many thanks for that insight, flemke Why is the CLK-GTR a truly horrible road car?
For starters, as you can see in the Needell video, just getting in is a major production. It makes getting into an F1 seem as easy as falling off a log.
Straight-cut gears: they do not belong in a road car. Ever. The noise is inherently unpleasant, very hard on the ear, and it overwhelms the experience.
The space inside is tiny. There isn't even a real passenger footwell; it's more a slot into which it's posible to jam two small feet.
Once you're on the move, the gear selector is fine, but getting the bloody thing into first, even when it's warmed up, can sometimes take 5-6 attempts. So you're sitting there at a red light, or a give-way, and you want to set off, but you can't, because you're farting around with the stupid paddles. As with the noise of the gearbox, this is not a problem during a race, but you're not racing.
Sure, the engine's got loads of power, and the vehicle has tremedous brip, as you would imagine. There is the small detail that, on public roads, you cannot come close ever to needing that power or that grip, but, but...
It's really no different from the flip side of a car that had been designed exclusively for the public roads - say a big, fat Audi - but which you've taken out of its habitat and onto a racing circuit. Sure, it is physically possible to operate the vehicle on the circuit, but in relation to proper racing cars it will be unavoidably awful.
Seeing as you've had first hand experience of this, may be you can also answer a question I've had, about these cars, for a very long time.
What's the purpose behind the spherical gear slector? Does it slides up and down from a Park, to a Neutral, Reverse and Drive function, as in Automatics/Automated Manuals?
Thanks again,
Darren
its proper dream car material.... i guess its one of those ' never meet your idol' moments, Handy really as i dont have cash laying around!
It's a race car after all, thats can be driven on the road.
flemke said:
iluvmercs said:
What's the purpose behind the spherical gear slector? Does it slides up and down from a Park, to a Neutral, Reverse and Drive function, as in Automatics/Automated Manuals?
It's been quite a few years, and I cannot recall. I can find out for you, if you give me a bit of time.Darren
Stablelad said:
Soovy said:
Didn't Flemke drive one of these and say it was utter st?
These are very well documented to be a truly awful drive. Look brill though.Edited by Soovy on Thursday 24th September 12:50
tedzwedz said:
Stablelad said:
Soovy said:
Didn't Flemke drive one of these and say it was utter st?
These are very well documented to be a truly awful drive. Look brill though.Edited by Soovy on Thursday 24th September 12:50
How fast on a circuit a road car may be is not really relevant, because it's meant to be driven on the road. What is relevant is how enjoyable or pleasant it is to drive in its intended environment. The CLK-GTR road car is very fast, but also very unpleasant, and therefore deeply flawed on the road.
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